2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

You have a handful of posters who complain about everything the team does. And then another handful who see it as their duty to argue with everything over and over.

I wonder if that is squeezing out newer posters who might have something to say.

I struggle with it.

One one hand do you really want people to stop talking about something they're passionate about, especially when there is rarely any tangible trade rumours to talk about?

Ideally the argument gets its own topic and stays there.

I know I pick my spots more than I used to ... I'm about to fall off the first page of all time posts and it's my site!

[Winsor_Pilates]

I haven't followed this thread or watched much hockey this season.
What's the thought value for Ras? A late 1st?

I'm guessing a 2026 later 1st pick + some mid prospect, but that's my uneducated guess.
Flames finish just outside the playoffs, draft twice in the 1st round similar to last year.

[CochraneKurt]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

So if the Flames announce a tank will you buy tickets while that's going on? Or will you wait until they get actual success?

It's not about what they "announce". Tank, rebuild, retool, rebiggle, call it whatever. It's all just words. I'll always be a fan, but it's gotten more difficult to be a hardcore/money spending fan the last decade, for me.

I am a fan of the franchise, not the players. I don't care who is on the roster if they are winning and showing they are trying to build a sustainable contender. The banners hanging don't say Coleman or Kadri or Iginla or Kipper... They say Calgary Flames...so do as they must to get more banners, that's all.

I am on year 45 as a fan, and I will buy tickets when I feel the on ice product is worth it, not when certain terminology is used during TV interviews. If others want to buy tickets to watch them now, great!

[traptor]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

I haven't followed this thread or watched much hockey this season.
What's the thought value for Ras? A late 1st?

I'm guessing a 2026 later 1st pick + some mid prospect, but that's my uneducated guess.
Flames finish just outside the playoffs, draft twice in the 1st round similar to last year.

I think you could get a 1st + decent prospect (some player drafted in the late 1st or a later round pick who popped off a bit)


I doubt we're getting a bonafide blue chipper though.


I get a little nervous they'll take less futures to get a decent roster player back since theyre in the mix for a playoff spot.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Well anybody with a strong opinion gets chewed out immediately most of the time. So if the goal is community growth, maybe we need to work on our tolerance for fans of all philosophies. Even if they want to burn the whole thing down for picks.

The new posters I've noticed have been in that corner, but they're treated like trolls because they don't provide the homework to support their position that the regulars expect.

[CochraneKurt]

Originally Posted by trentcrimmindependent

well anybody with a strong opinion gets chewed out immediately most of the time. So if the goal is community growth, maybe we need to work on our tolerance for fans of all philosophies. Even if they want to burn the whole thing down for picks.

The new posters i've noticed have been in that corner, but they're treated like trolls because they don't provide the homework to support their position that the regulars expect.

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[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Well anybody with a strong opinion gets chewed out immediately most of the time. So if the goal is community growth, maybe we need to work on our tolerance for fans of all philosophies. Even if they want to burn the whole thing down for picks.

The new posters I've noticed have been in that corner, but they're treated like trolls because they don't provide the homework to support their position that the regulars expect.

Providing homework for a position is a positive, not an unreasonable expectation.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

I listened to it just now as well. I really didn't like the argument Francis was making. Saying we don't know what the Flames are, and you have to roll with the punches, and wait and see. Francis is essentially advocating not trading anyone except Andersson, even if your price is met, as long as they continue hovering around a wildcard spot.

Well we know what the Flames aren't:

• The Flames aren't a 0.700 team.
• The Flames aren't a contender.
• The Flames don't have the horses to win a 7 game series against the top teams in the West.

I certainly hope that this organization isn't as reactionary as Francis suggests. If they had a plan to sell, then a streak of good play shouldn't change that if your price is met. I definitely don't want to hear last year's excuse of rewarding the players.

Yeah I listened to that segment and I didn’t think much of the Francis analysis. Give it another 10-20 games so you really know what you have. How could management not possibly know what they have with this team?

It’s funny, fans like to say this is a young team. I guess based on average age or something. But look at the ice time leaders. The top 4 forwards are Kadri, Huberdeau, Coleman and Backlund. Andersson and Weegar lead the back end. This team is playing well and they are being carried by old players.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Providing homework for a position is a positive, not an unreasonable expectation.

Fans expressing their feelings isn’t a bad thing either though. Not every single thing needs to be disputed.

[Roko]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Yeah I listened to that segment and I didn’t think much of the Francis analysis. Give it another 10-20 games so you really know what you have. How could management not possibly know what they have with this team?

It’s funny, fans like to say this is a young team. I guess based on average age or something. But look at the ice time leaders. The top 4 forwards are Kadri, Huberdeau, Coleman and Backlund. Andersson and Weegar lead the back end. This team is playing well and they are being carried by old players.

The issue is this organization is that reactionary. The past has proven they will cling to a playoff hope. Just like last season.

[shutout]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

It’s funny, fans like to say this is a young team. I guess based on average age or something. But look at the ice time leaders. The top 4 forwards are Kadri, Huberdeau, Coleman and Backlund. Andersson and Weegar lead the back end. This team is playing well and they are being carried by old players.

Which is probably a good reason to look at the young players and see if they should be the ones being moved out. If Coleman provides three or four more times the effort and impact that Zary does maybe we should be shopping Zary around to make space for players from the Wranglers.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Fans expressing their feelings isn’t a bad thing either though. Not every single thing needs to be disputed.

I'm entitled to challenge an opinion I think is flawed. Why does one "side" get to do that but not the other?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Roko

The issue is this organization is that reactionary. The past has proven they will cling to a playoff hope. Just like last season.

No one is "clinging to a PO hope". That's just incorrect. Name who is doing this.

[wpgflamesfan]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Yeah I listened to that segment and I didn’t think much of the Francis analysis. Give it another 10-20 games so you really know what you have. How could management not possibly know what they have with this team?

It’s funny, fans like to say this is a young team. I guess based on average age or something. But look at the ice time leaders. The top 4 forwards are Kadri, Huberdeau, Coleman and Backlund. Andersson and Weegar lead the back end. This team is playing well and they are being carried by old players.

We’re the 13th oldest team in the league (at 28.8 years) if you weight it by TOI and have been that exact same age for the first 40 games of the past two years. Outside of kuznetsov and maybe Klapka we’re not really relying on any younger players more than last season.

[Roko]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

No one is "clinging to a PO hope". That's just incorrect. Name who is doing this.

Edwards, Maloney, Nonis, possibly Conroy, etc. Also a very vocal group of CP posters.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I'm entitled to challenge an opinion I think is flawed. Why does one "side" get to do that but not the other?

It does get awkward though when someone just makes stuff up either about the Flames or about what posters allegedly said and then you challenge it. Often just leads to silence from the person making things up but to challenge these mistruths can appear acrimonious when apparently one should just allow folks to make up whatever they want.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

I certainly hope that this organization isn't as reactionary as Francis suggests. If they had a plan to sell, then a streak of good play shouldn't change that if your price is met. I definitely don't want to hear last year's excuse of rewarding the players.

Is it reactionary though? They basically said the same thing when Flames were dead last.

What you are seeing is in fact the plan. Deal with what needs to be dealt with and find hockey trades that address team needs and make us younger.

Francis is the mouthpiece for someone in the organization - for all we know, Murray himself. Other useful idiots have done more, for less rewards, than Francis. In excahnge for socializing management's ideas Francis gets relevancy, which is all he wants.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by wpgflamesfan

We’re the 13th oldest team in the league (at 28.8 years) if you weight it by TOI and have been that exact same age for the first 40 games of the past two years. Outside of kuznetsov and maybe Klapka we’re not really relying on any younger players more than last season.

No but last season was pretty good for younger players breaking through. The Honzek injury has altered that course. Brzu has just gotten into the game. Rasmus won't be here, and Parekh will get ice time. Gridin will be back up eventually.

Young players don't just get the top ice time automatically. Not unless there are zero veterans to use.

Edit: the fact that the average age is skewed by those guys means that the Flames actually have even more young guys than the average suggests. Eg. Backlund moves the age needle up more than Coronato moves it down. Count the number of over 26 players versus under and I bet the Flames have more than most under 26.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Roko

Edwards, Maloney, Nonis, possibly Conroy, etc. Also a very vocal group of CP posters.

They are not clinging to PO hope.

They are letting the team play, looking for ways to improve it that line up with their plan, and hoping for POs.

And not because Murray needs the money, but because it would be fun.

Remember fun?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Roko

Edwards, Maloney, Nonis, possibly Conroy, etc. Also a very vocal group of CP posters.

None of them has said this, and no poster has either. When you have to make up facts, you can't win an argument.