2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Yes, Coleman for sure is worth a 1st+, the wingers traded with term that are worse than him have gotten that in recent years. No reason for the Flames to fire sale him this year for less. The obstacle with Coleman is what are the 10 teams the Flames can trade him to. He could have made that list so that there are maybe two teams on it that would actually want him. If he is open to being traded it makes it a lot easier.

You really love stating your opinion as fact. FOR SURE worth a 1st + even though only 3 wingers in the last 3 years even got a first (let alone +), and all were much younger, had way more control, and were better then Coleman

Bertuzzi was 28coming off a 30 goal 32 assist season at 28

Debrincat was 24 was coming off a 41 goal 37 assist season

Bjorkstrand was 28 coming off a 20 goal 39 assist season

Coleman is 34 and coming off a 15 goal 24 assist season

Please tell me how he is WAY BETTER then any winger (there's only 3 in the last 3 years that got traded for a 1st so its easy to compare) that got a first to deserve a 1st PLUS!!

Coleman is older, has less control, and is coming off worse seasons then when these 3 were traded.

If they get a 1st I will be really surprised (Happy - But surprised) If they got a 1st + it would be the best trade of a winger in the last 3 years by far (And I didn't go back further then 3 years It could be the best trade of a winger in decades! )

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Super-Rye

Someone said that this team has ZERO respect for its fans but from what I can tell it seems some of these fans have ZERO respect for themselves.

Hard disagree. I think the reason people are so avidly speaking out is precisely because they do have respect for themselves and for the club (the franchise as an ideal to support), but i would say that many fans, myself among them, have very little respect for ownership and some of management. The current GM has a shorter leash than potentially deserved because of successive ownership driven management decisions.

And truly, what do we owe ownership? What has Murray done for us as fans? Hes extorted the taxpayers of the city, threatened to move the team to get his way, threw a fit until he got what he wanted... spending to the cap is the least ownership can do when the value of this franchise has increased their personal fortunes massively during their tenure of ownership. The team makes money. We dont owe them fealty or something for making money off of us collectively.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Hey man, watch out. Ive been telling people we just need to take managements word for it for months now only to be called overblown, or to be told that its some sort of arcane gamesmanship about selling players that is only known to the upper echelons of inside nhlers and managers.

Yeah, it gets spun both ways. Like some form of mastermind negotiation tactics, or being completely oblivious to the plight of the team.

The reality is a lot less interesting. It’s just not his priority right now. Neither contract is about to expire and the players are out performing. The reason other teams would like to have these guys is the same reason he would like to keep them.

I don’t think Conroy sees his job as commodities trader. He’s not worried that an asset that he has is going to be depreciating a bit in value if that asset is providing him with the services he’s paying for. He still is expected to win games now, his job isn’t only futures. And he’s dome a great job acquiring young players so far.

So yeah, like I said, I don’t think he’s going to make any trades for Kadri or Coleman that make the team worse in exchange for futures.

His priority is dealing Rasmus because that contract is about to expire. If in the meantime, he can improve the team and get a little bit younger then I think he’ll look for hockey traits. That’s just taking him at his word.

Having settle all of that I’ll be really surprised if the flames trade Rasmus to Dallas. Of course they have things that we would want, but none of those seem to be on offer and they’ve depleted the stores a bit chasing their cup the last few years. So hopefully we can deal with another team that has more items of interest with the way Rasmus is playing right now. This is a big opportunity for the flames to hit a home run trade.

[albertGQ]

Originally Posted by CochraneKurt

I don't know how many of you have kids. Or how many have kids in that 6-12 year old range where they start truly finding their inner fan.

My son is 9. He couldn't care less about the Flames. He talks about Mcdavid, Mathews, Celebrini, MacKinnon, Bedard. He knows the goalie is Wolf but it's the howl during games that sealed that for him. This team won the cup when I was 9. I was hooked. But, what do kids now have? Certainly they don't have a sustainable winner to root for. Old Gaudreau jerseys are probably more of a go to than any skater on this current roster.

What stood out to me is his mindset after the Jays World Series run. He knows 50%+ of the roster. Asked for jerseys and Jays swag for Christmas. The Jays captured him as a fan now. The Flames are just a local team that wears red that McDavid and such play against to him.

This is what is also lost in all of this debate....why would any kid choose Calgary as their team? If I just moved here from a different country I don't know if I could become a fan either. Just bleh all around. Build something sustainable with players the kids can love and everyone will be happy. The next generation of fans is wearing a lot of blue and orange around these parts and it's no knes fault but the Flames.

I have four boys. Ages 17, 14, 9 and 6.

They all love the Flames and cheer for the Flames. They hate the Oilers and hate McDavid

Its not the Flames fault, I think its more of a parenting issue. LOL. JK

I know kids like to cheer for a winner, but I've taught them from a young age to hate the blue and orange. And I've done it with success

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Coleman has a 10 team list and I am sure the organization is willing to work with him but if they get their price met they need to make the move. I was just listening to the Francis-Steinberg exchange on Flames Talk yesterday and Francis was saying outside of Andersson they need to see what they have and not make any moves with Coleman or Kadri and Steinberg argued if the price is met they need to move forward with the deal.

I think Coleman 50% retained should bring back a 1st and another piece (especially if the Flames also take a cap dump back). If he is traded next deadline I think he gets a 2nd+3rd

You didn't really address anything I said. If Coleman doesn't want to move this year what can the Flames really do? Just because Francis and Steinberg can talk about price...it means nothing of the player doesn't want to move.

If I was in Coleman's shoes...my trade list likely includes a bunch of teams that likely won't trade for me. He's likely well aware that he's not going to be staying in Calgary past next season and that his next.contract will likely be the last one he signs. So I can see why he would prefer to not uproot his family and move twice. Come next year he's likely far more open to a move since he's still looking at a move, and it's easier to stomach going somewhere for 4 months on a temporary basis.

I'm also skeptical that teams that want Coleman in a place he will go to will pay this price. If he's not willing to go to an Ottawa or Buffalo and only to a Dallas or Vegas...those teams always get their guy at a discount.

[CochraneKurt]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

That's not why they left and you know it.

Regardless of why they left, the Flames were left with nothing to show for any of them other than some cap space. Imagine they received actual assets for players who are HOF/Retired jerseys. It would have gone a long ways for the future for sure. But alas, they got nothing. Doesn't matter why, just a set back in the 2010s is my point.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

How do I forget about Gridin!!! Also illustrates my point even further haha, ty Gio!

I also think the best player the Flames will have after the rebuild has yet to be drafted.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by CochraneKurt

Regardless of why they left, the Flames were left with nothing to show for any of them other than some cap space. Imagine they received actual assets for players who are HOF/Retired jerseys. It would have gone a long ways for the future for sure. But alas, they got nothing. Doesn't matter why, just a set back in the 2010s is my point.

Well keeping a guy to retirement isn't necessarily a bad thing. But why are you blaming present management for past events anyway?

[Super-Rye]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Hard disagree. I think the reason people are so avidly speaking out is precisely because they do have respect for themselves and for the club (the franchise as an ideal to support), but i would say that many fans, myself among them, have very little respect for ownership and some of management. The current GM has a shorter leash than potentially deserved because of successive ownership driven management decisions.

And truly, what do we owe ownership? What has Murray done for us as fans? Hes extorted the taxpayers of the city, threatened to move the team to get his way, threw a fit until he got what he wanted... spending to the cap is the least ownership can do when the value of this franchise has increased their personal fortunes massively during their tenure of ownership. The team makes money. We dont owe them fealty or something for making money off of us collectively.

I don't disagree that Murray Edwards is a chud of an owner. I've posted several times about my thoughts on Edwards and how he bailed on this province to avoid the world's smallest tax hike. It's exactly why I stopped buying Flames merchandise. My money can go to better things. That's what I can control so that's what I do.

We owe Edwards nothing. Less than nothing if at all possible, but I do think we owe Conroy the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise.

I also think we owe it to ourselves to show we are stronger mentally than some have shown lately.

We are Flames fans. We don't get lucky. We don't get good things. We watch stars come and turn into pumpkins. I've spent 30 years of my life watching this team barely make it to the playoffs for the most part. We were born in this ####. We eat a season like this for breakfast and ask for more. Nothing should be able to phase us at this point.

And you know what? I'll watch them do it again next year. #### it. That's Flames hockey baby.

Way too many people acting damaged and traumatized these days over a sport.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Hey man, watch out. Ive been telling people we just need to take managements word for it for months now only to be called overblown, or to be told that its some sort of arcane gamesmanship about selling players that is only known to the upper echelons of inside nhlers and managers.

Except what you are doing is not taking management's actual words. You are taking stuff they say and spinning it into your narrative. Even Maloney said a high draft pick would be good (and then tempered expectations). No one ever said "we won't trade veterans", yet people say that's what they said.

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Hey man, watch out. Ive been telling people we just need to take managements word for it for months now only to be called overblown, or to be told that its some sort of arcane gamesmanship about selling players that is only known to the upper echelons of inside nhlers and managers.

I love how you always play the victim card haha.

[CochraneKurt]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Well keeping a guy to retirement isn't necessarily a bad thing. But why are you blaming present management for past events anyway?

Two series wins in 20 years. 🤷🏼#♂️. All the various management groups are responsible for the meh results the last few decades. Not saying one is to blame for the other. Just a few decades of what feels like spinning tires with no true outcomes one way or the other.

Simply want to something sustainable in the future. I personally am reluctant to buy in until I see it now. Like I said, over the last 20 years we have very little to show for it. Want to see that changed. That's all. Give me a reason to spend my disposable income on your product, and for the time being it's not a worth while expenditure for what you get. My personal opinion is all this is.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

You really love stating your opinion as fact. FOR SURE worth a 1st + even though only 3 wingers in the last 3 years even got a first (let alone +), and all were much younger, had way more control, and were better then Coleman

Bertuzzi was 28coming off a 30 goal 32 assist season at 28

Debrincat was 24 was coming off a 41 goal 37 assist season

Bjorkstrand was 28 coming off a 20 goal 39 assist season

Coleman is 34 and coming off a 15 goal 24 assist season

Please tell me how he is WAY BETTER then any winger (there's only 3 in the last 3 years that got traded for a 1st so its easy to compare) that got a first to deserve a 1st PLUS!!

Coleman is older, has less control, and is coming off worse seasons then when these 3 were traded.

If they get a 1st I will be really surprised (Happy - But surprised) If they got a 1st + it would be the best trade of a winger in the last 3 years by far (And I didn't go back further then 3 years It could be the best trade of a winger in decades! )

Well thank you for quoting me first and foremost, guys like Vinny and SuperMatt just make stuff up.

Coleman is a far far far better defensive player than any of those wingers. Whatever differences there are offensively with those players are more than made up on the defensive side.

DeBrincat also had a 21 year old former 3rd round pick, a 4th and a guy coming off a 20 goal, 25 assist season going back to Ottawa for him.

Bertuzzi was traded in a season where he was on pace for 11 goals and 28 assists over 82 games. This year Coleman is on pace for 25 goals and 16 assists this year, so a little better than Bertuzzi.

Bjorkstad was traded with another player for two firsts and a 2nd.
He was traded in a season that he was on pace for 21 goals 28 assists, so not quite the same goal scoring ability in the year he was traded as Coleman but a few more assists. And again, nowhere near the defensive ability nor anywhere near the Stanley Cup pedigree.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Did I say that? Not even close and you know that is not what I meant. You have done a nice job convincing yourself that there are no real trade partners for our players but I am pretty sure you have only been successful in convincing yourself alone of that notion. Kadri is on pace for 70pts and Danault was traded with ZERO goals and 5 points in 30 games this year. So that would be the offer that the Flames would take for Kadri? How poor of a negotiator do you think Conroy is to have that type of expectation? You must not hold that high a view of him if you think that is all he could muster up in a negotiation?

Aarongavey is telling us the only way to move Coleman now is if we attach our 2nd and we can expect to get a 5th as the return. Does anyone really think that is the case?

Again you have convinced only yourself that there are no good offers for our players. Stupid question to ask if people would rather sit them for the same effect. Get the assets these guys can get via trade. Keeping these guys is keeping the Flames on the treadmill of mediocrity

Aaron Haney was obviously being sarcastic- and he wasn't the one who said that would be the trade. And I do t think a trade is impossible - just way harder than some posters assume. I think they will get done eventually.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by CochraneKurt

Two series wins in 20 years. 🤷🏼#♂️. All the various management groups are responsible for the meh results the last few decades. Not saying one is to blame for the other. Just a few decades of what feels like spinning tires with no true outcomes one way or the other.

Simply want to something sustainable in the future. I personally am reluctant to buy in until I see it now. Like I said, over the last 20 years we have very little to show for it. Want to see that changed. That's all. Give me a reason to spend my disposable income on your product, and for the time being it's not a worth while expenditure for what you get. My personal opinion is all this is.

So if the Flames announce a tank will you buy tickets while that's going on? Or will you wait until they get actual success?

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Coleman has a 10 team list and I am sure the organization is willing to work with him but if they get their price met they need to make the move. I was just listening to the Francis-Steinberg exchange on Flames Talk yesterday and Francis was saying outside of Andersson they need to see what they have and not make any moves with Coleman or Kadri and Steinberg argued if the price is met they need to move forward with the deal.

I think Coleman 50% retained should bring back a 1st and another piece (especially if the Flames also take a cap dump back). If he is traded next deadline I think he gets a 2nd+3rd

I listened to it just now as well. I really didn't like the argument Francis was making. Saying we don't know what the Flames are, and you have to roll with the punches, and wait and see. Francis is essentially advocating not trading anyone except Andersson, even if your price is met, as long as they continue hovering around a wildcard spot.

Well we know what the Flames aren't:

• The Flames aren't a 0.700 team.
• The Flames aren't a contender.
• The Flames don't have the horses to win a 7 game series against the top teams in the West.

I certainly hope that this organization isn't as reactionary as Francis suggests. If they had a plan to sell, then a streak of good play shouldn't change that if your price is met. I definitely don't want to hear last year's excuse of rewarding the players.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Coleman has a 10 team list and I am sure the organization is willing to work with him but if they get their price met they need to make the move. I was just listening to the Francis-Steinberg exchange on Flames Talk yesterday and Francis was saying outside of Andersson they need to see what they have and not make any moves with Coleman or Kadri and Steinberg argued if the price is met they need to move forward with the deal.

I think Coleman 50% retained should bring back a 1st and another piece (especially if the Flames also take a cap dump back). If he is traded next deadline I think he gets a 2nd+3rd

I am still not sure you are understanding Coleman's no trade clause. Coleman has a 10 team approved trade list (21 team No Trade).

The idea that Coleman is easily tradeable is laughable. He is only getting traded if he wants to be traded and if he doesn't want to be traded, he certainly will not be.

Even if he used a random number generator instead of a professional NHL agent he could probably eliminate all of the viable suitors who would trade for him this season.

These guys have value, really good value even, but they won't be traded unless they want to be and that will likely depend on how the room feels after Andersson is traded.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by albertGQ

I have four boys. Ages 17, 14, 9 and 6.

They all love the Flames and cheer for the Flames. They hate the Oilers and hate McDavid

Its not the Flames fault, I think its more of a parenting issue. LOL. JK

I know kids like to cheer for a winner, but I've taught them from a young age to hate the blue and orange. And I've done it with success

Yeah, it’s kind of funny to say “my kid doesn’t even like the Flames, it’s their fault!” and then admit his dad trashes the Flames lol.

My nephew is a huge Flames fan, and still loves Flames players that have moved on (like Markstrom). Every time I visit he wants to talk hockey and about what happened in the last game. He gets excited about every win and disappointed by every loss.

He has players he likes on other teams too (like Makar). But I’m told he wears his Flames jersey on every game day.

If anything, I think people would do themselves a favour if they tapped back in to their inner child because at the end of the day it’s all kind of silly fun and I feel like people do themselves a disservice by taking it too seriously and missing out on that part of it.

[Psytic]

Yes, we are happy the team works hard and plays a good structured game, but the roster is basically Parekh, Wolf, and a bunch of 30 year olds. Those veterans are our top scorers right now, but they could fall off a cliff any day. Father Time is undefeated.

It is imperative they cash in on good seasons by some or all of Coleman, Kadri, and Andersson because they aren’t getting any younger. The worst thing that could happen is they sneak into a Wild Card spot and because Conroy feels he owes it to the room, he goes out and gets a scorer or simply lets Andersson play out the string and walk for nothing. I don’t care how well the guys are playing. They will be massacred by Colorado. Asset management should trump all, and I think people are scared they will pull the same crap they did with Gio and Brodie and even Hamonic where they let them play out the string and guys got drafted or went FA for nothing. Again we won’t know the plan until the trade deadline but I hope they learned their lesson this time. If the offers are still crap for Andersson then just sign him at that point. No one should just age out or walk.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

You really love stating your opinion as fact. FOR SURE worth a 1st + even though only 3 wingers in the last 3 years even got a first (let alone +), and all were much younger, had way more control, and were better then Coleman

Bertuzzi was 28coming off a 30 goal 32 assist season at 28

Debrincat was 24 was coming off a 41 goal 37 assist season

Bjorkstrand was 28 coming off a 20 goal 39 assist season

Coleman is 34 and coming off a 15 goal 24 assist season

Please tell me how he is WAY BETTER then any winger (there's only 3 in the last 3 years that got traded for a 1st so its easy to compare) that got a first to deserve a 1st PLUS!!

Coleman is older, has less control, and is coming off worse seasons then when these 3 were traded.

If they get a 1st I will be really surprised (Happy - But surprised) If they got a 1st + it would be the best trade of a winger in the last 3 years by far (And I didn't go back further then 3 years It could be the best trade of a winger in decades! )

The other factors are that Debrincant had no trade control. So that allowed a team like Ottawa to overpay to acquire him. Likewise Bertuzzi also had no trade protection when he was dealt so anyone could theoretically add him if they wanted him.

With Bjorkstrand he was in a package with Yanni Gourde, and Gourde did re-up shortly after the trade. So although it's two first round picks....tough to assess how much of this is the third line center who anchored the third line of their cup winning teams who was willing to sign a new deal at a low AAV.

So I agree that no matter when a deal is made...it's likely the Flames taking back a misused first like the Blues did when they traded Barbeshev for Zach Dean or a late first a couple years later at the absolute high side...or a combination of a second and third round picks because they will be limited as to where they could move him.