2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

ZERO respect for their fans.

Some might say trying to win games for the fans in the building instead of losing on purpose is having respect for those fans.

I'm in favour of rebuild but let's not ascribe stuff that we know nothing about.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

the clock is ticking on both specifically Coleman. His value will be the highest this deadline with 2 runs being an attractive selling feature for teams coughing up the assets.

I think you're not realizing how much control Coleman has over his situation. Coleman has already won cups, so he may not want to uproot his family for a year and a half before he signs what will likely be his last contract. So I could see why this is a deal the Flames can't make this year. Move forward a year and he might be willing to temporarily relocate for 4 months until he picks his next destination.

It's one thing to say trade the player, and I get that the Flames maybe need to be bigger jerks when it comes to forcing players out of town. But easier for you and I to say that than actually do that. I still think the return for Coleman is a bit more in line with Jason14h evaluation than the first and former first round pick that others suggest.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by CochraneKurt

Oh I can definitely blame my parenting a bit here. I don't have a lot of nice things to say about being a fan of this franchise the last 15-20 years and I'm sure it's rubbing off on him as well. Watching Iginla, Kipper, JBo, Johnny, Monny...all gone for essentially nothing more than a bit of cap space has soured me. The lack of sustained success just is the cherry on top.

That's not why they left and you know it.

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Gridin looks at your list and has a sad.

How do I forget about Gridin!!! Also illustrates my point even further haha, ty Gio!

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

How do I forget about Gridin!!! Also illustrates my point even further haha, ty Gio!

It's an impressive list to me. Calgary has a really nice prospect pool.

[flambers]

Not sure I understand that comment Coleman has a 10 team NTC (I would guess all of the Canadian Cities would be on his NTC list)

I would think Coleman would be more than happy to go to an US contender.

Personally I am in the camp where I don't expect any trades this season with the exception of Andersson

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by flambers

Not sure I understand that comment Coleman has a 10 team NTC (expect all of the Canadian Cities would be on his NTC list)

I would think Coleman would be more than happy to go to an US contender.

Personally I am in the camp where I don't expect any trades this season with the exception of Andersson

Kadri's list is likely harder to deal with. Coleman is such a swiss army knife that any team not on his list might want him, aside from pure rebuilding teams. Teams that need Kadri are way more niche and have less assets to trade, and his list does not seem to conform to the usual expectations.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by flambers

Not sure I understand that comment Coleman has a 10 team NTC (I would guess all of the Canadian Cities would be on his NTC list)

I would think Coleman would be more than happy to go to an US contender.

Personally I am in the camp where I don't expect any trades this season with the exception of Andersson

You read that wrong. Coleman has a 10 team approved trade list. Coleman can only be traded to those 10 teams. Which is the same as saying he has a 21 team no trade list.

[flambers]

Thanks. For Coleman I would guess Flames would be looking at 4 or 5 teams

However I think its very unlikely this type of player is moved

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Kadri's list is likely harder to deal with. Coleman is such a swiss army knife that any team not on his list might want him, aside from pure rebuilding teams. Teams that need Kadri are way more niche and have less assets to trade, and his list does not seem to conform to the usual expectations.

Coleman will be nearly impossible to trade without his consent. Unless he makes a pretty big miscalculation on his trade list, it should be pretty easy to eliminate 21 suitors and block all trade options.

Kadri has slightly smaller control but as you mentioned it is harder to find a good trade partner for him and this he can use his 13 team list to eliminate most suitors.

It would take a surprise buyer, like the Sharks, to move either guy without their consent.

[Badgers Nose]

When the guy in charge says that he’s not shopping players, that he won’t shop players unless they specifically ask to be moved, then maybe we should take him at his word.

Accept it and move on. Speculate all you want about what the returns for trading Coleman and Kadri would be, but don’t get upset when it doesn’t happen.

Only Ras is going to be traded for futures. Anything else will be similar to the trade last year where flames address a need and get a little bit younger.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Did I say that? Not even close and you know that is not what I meant. You have done a nice job convincing yourself that there are no real trade partners for our players but I am pretty sure you have only been successful in convincing yourself alone of that notion. Kadri is on pace for 70pts and Danault was traded with ZERO goals and 5 points in 30 games this year. So that would be the offer that the Flames would take for Kadri? How poor of a negotiator do you think Conroy is to have that type of expectation? You must not hold that high a view of him if you think that is all he could muster up in a negotiation?

Aarongavey is telling us the only way to move Coleman now is if we attach our 2nd and we can expect to get a 5th as the return. Does anyone really think that is the case?

Again you have convinced only yourself that there are no good offers for our players. Stupid question to ask if people would rather sit them for the same effect. Get the assets these guys can get via trade. Keeping these guys is keeping the Flames on the treadmill of mediocrity

I never said that, I suggested it and someone on team tank said they would do that trade. But I am pretty sure I never ever said the only way to move Coleman is to attach a second. But this is par for the course for you, you just make #### up.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

I think you're not realizing how much control Coleman has over his situation. Coleman has already won cups, so he may not want to uproot his family for a year and a half before he signs what will likely be his last contract. So I could see why this is a deal the Flames can't make this year. Move forward a year and he might be willing to temporarily relocate for 4 months until he picks his next destination.

It's one thing to say trade the player, and I get that the Flames maybe need to be bigger jerks when it comes to forcing players out of town. But easier for you and I to say that than actually do that. I still think the return for Coleman is a bit more in line with Jason14h evaluation than the first and former first round pick that others suggest.

Coleman has a 10 team list and I am sure the organization is willing to work with him but if they get their price met they need to make the move. I was just listening to the Francis-Steinberg exchange on Flames Talk yesterday and Francis was saying outside of Andersson they need to see what they have and not make any moves with Coleman or Kadri and Steinberg argued if the price is met they need to move forward with the deal.

I think Coleman 50% retained should bring back a 1st and another piece (especially if the Flames also take a cap dump back). If he is traded next deadline I think he gets a 2nd+3rd

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

This is honestly the most stale I've ever seen CP I think. Just the same arguments rehashed over and over and over in every thread about whether e are rebuilding or not. I mostly speed scroll now, it's crazy.

You have a handful of posters who complain about everything the team does. And then another handful who see it as their duty to argue with everything over and over.

I wonder if that is squeezing out newer posters who might have something to say.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Coleman has a 10 team list and I am sure the organization is willing to work with him but if they get their price met they need to make the move. I was just listening to the Francis-Steinberg exchange on Flames Talk yesterday and Francis was saying outside of Andersson they need to see what they have and not make any moves with Coleman or Kadri and Steinberg argued if the price is met they need to move forward with the deal.

I think Coleman 50% retained should bring back a 1st and another piece (especially if the Flames also take a cap dump back). If he is traded next deadline I think he gets a 2nd+3rd

Yes, Coleman for sure is worth a 1st+, the wingers traded with term that are worse than him have gotten that in recent years. No reason for the Flames to fire sale him this year for less. The obstacle with Coleman is what are the 10 teams the Flames can trade him to. He could have made that list so that there are maybe two teams on it that would actually want him. If he is open to being traded it makes it a lot easier.

[Super-Rye]

Originally Posted by Two Fivenagame

I recall CP being like this the last time the Flames faced a rebiggle. The discussion back then centered around why the Flames waited so long to trade Iginla. Most of CP saw the writing on the wall - Iginla and the rest of the roster were getting older, slower, and were playing some of the most boring unwatchable hockey. Yet the Flames seemed to drag their feet and made decisions that kept the roster in the mushy middle for a number of years.
The future was bolstered by mushy-middle draft picks like Tim Erickson, Greg Nemisz, Mark Jankowski, and Sven Baertschi.

There wasn't any real excitement for the future until the Flames bottomed out and started drafting near the top with Bennett, Monahan, and Tkachuk. That's when CP became really interesting and a fun place to be.

Unfortunately I see the Flames doing the same things again. They're afraid to make to make hard decisions that truly benefit the future and immediately inject some potential super Star talent on the roster. So once again the Flames trot out the old ways of thinking - we can't trade him, he has a NMC, we need to keep the culture in the room, we need an offer that really blows our socks off, we don't use the "R" word, there are other ways to build a roster that doesn't rely on bottoming out, yadda yadda yadda.
Meanwhile, here are Zary, Peltier, Honzek, Coronato, and Reschney instead of any legitimate chance at Bedard, Celibrini, Schaefer, and likely McKenna.

Worst of all imo, you don't need 5 GMs to do that work and certainly not the same crew keeping you in the mushy middle.

Fire Maloney and the rest, give CC complete control, trade everyone over 26 for *reasonable* returns instead of holding out for the best possible deals, and bottom the eff out right bloody now. Avoid this slow inevitable death nonsense and bottom out now.

It's amusing that you left out Calgary's most hyped prospect at the time Johnny Gaudreau. Someone who went from the 4th round to absolute superstar. Someone who a lot of people on this board wasted a lot of time worrying about the "he won't sign with us' narrative before he ultimately signed with us.

The Flames definitely held on to Iginla too long and did not maximize their return. Everyone knew it at the time but the team wanted to compete. Then they traded Iginla, got nothing for him and bottomed out and you know what? 2 years later they had one of the most fun seasons I can remember where they shocked the hockey world into a run to the second round. It culminated in a team that competed for top in the West for a few seasons, and another 2nd round exit. Unfortunately at the time we had a nincompoop for a GM who chased our star players away by trying to nickel and dime them on their contracts. Had Johnny and Chucky stayed, ultimately this team would have fallen apart regardless due to a situation no one would have seen coming, but I still believe had those 2 stayed this team was primed to go on a deep run.

Conroy has stated time and time again the asset management in the past is something we can't let happen. We can't lose our best players for nothing. It's why Rasmus will be traded before the deadline. It's why Coleman will be moved before his contract expires. He has a track record of moving out UFAs and bringing in younger players. He has a track record of drafting good young players and making room to put them on the NHL roster when ready. Everyone's generational trauma from 20 years ago about things that did and did not happen are not relevant and useful. Conroy is a genuine and smart and someone I trust to build a team.

You are allowed to be worried. You are allowed to be annoyed. Hell your even allowed to be impatient about how slow this team seems to be moving.

Where I think a lot of people are getting tired is the CONSTANT negativity. The whining and complaining in EVERY thread. Hell it's even on the radio. The post game show on the Fan has basically gotten to a turn off point for me once they start taking texts and calls. We get it. Some of you aren't happy and are concerned about where this team is headed. The condescending bull#### about increased lottery pick odds and the need for a superstar, as if these things are ####ing lost on anyone, and constant overtaking of every thread with crying about things beyond any of our control need to stop.

Someone said that this team has ZERO respect for its fans but from what I can tell it seems some of these fans have ZERO respect for themselves.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

When the guy in charge says that he’s not shopping players, that he won’t shop players unless they specifically ask to be moved, then maybe we should take him at his word.

Accept it and move on. Speculate all you want about what the returns for trading Coleman and Kadri would be, but don’t get upset when it doesn’t happen.

Only Ras is going to be traded for futures. Anything else will be similar to the trade last year where flames address a need and get a little bit younger.

Hey man, watch out. Ive been telling people we just need to take managements word for it for months now only to be called overblown, or to be told that its some sort of arcane gamesmanship about selling players that is only known to the upper echelons of inside nhlers and managers.

[Major Major]

Coleman for O'Reilly (Sam).

[shutout]

General manager Craig Conroy has been clear about the organization’s direction: get younger, accumulate assets, and build a sustainable core for the future.

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/fla...173613551.html

Early inconsistency, injuries, and questions about direction painted the Flames as a team likely headed toward a transitional year. Instead, they’ve leaned into structure, resilience, and an identity that has allowed them to bank points despite ongoing change.

success has a way of complicating plans

The irony, of course, is that without those very veterans, the Flames wouldn’t be in this position at all. Their leadership, consistency, and ability to steady younger players have been critical to Calgary’s resurgence.

What remains clear is that Calgary has given itself meaningful games in January—and perhaps a decision that’s far more complicated than anyone anticipated.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Super-Rye

Someone said that this team has ZERO respect for its fans but from what I can tell it seems some of these fans have ZERO respect for themselves.

Hard disagree. I think the reason people are so avidly speaking out is precisely because they do have respect for themseleves and for the club (the franchise as an ideal to support), but i would say that many fans, myself among them, have very little respect for ownership and some of management. The current GM has a shorter leash than potentially deserved because of successive ownership driven management decisions.

And truly, what do we owe ownership? What has Murray done for us as fans? Hes extorted the taxpayers of the city, threatened to move the team to get his way, threw a fit until he got what he wanted... spending to the cap is the least ownership can do when the value of this franchise has increased their personal fortunes massively during their tenure of ownership. The team makes money. We dont owe them fealty or something for making money off of us collectively.