American Politics 4.0 - Orangeyou Glad He’s Back?

[Paulie Walnuts]

If this moron goes through with those tariffs how’s that going to impact our arena and supplies.

[Wormius]

It’s a policy that’s only going to hurt US, Canada, and Mexico and solves absolutely nothing. Tariffs will last 3 days before Trump’s business buddies start to complain about increased costs, and then he’ll find manage some way to save face.

[Sidney Crosby's Hat]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

If this moron goes through with those tariffs how’s that going to impact our arena and supplies.

It shouldn't, as long as Canada doesn't put up a 25% tariff of its own in response.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

He'll also quickly discover how much the big company bros need their illegal aliens to fill jobs at the bottom for paltry wages.

Anybody actually believe that him and JD Mascara care that much to make some small cities in Ohio and Colorado safer for residents?

Which purportedly isn't actually a problem either.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Sidney Crosby's Hat

It shouldn't, as long as Canada doesn't put up a 25% tariff of its own in response.

Yeah I was thinking what if we retaliate with our own tariffs.

Walmart is already talking about raising prices. Enjoy

[Whynotnow]

The entire Midwest would see energy prices rise immediately by about 25 percent. Virtually all of the feedstock to their refining capacity is fed from Canadian sources with no alternative paths available. I highly doubt he goes through with this. It’s bluster.

He will get some lame ass commitment from the goc, exclude energy and claim victory all at once.

[dino7c]

First everything was Biden's fault and now blame Canada

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Roughneck

If the US closes its borders what is there for Canada and Mexico to do? They close the “ridiculous Open Border” and presumably nothing should get in, so the fentanyl “imports” stay in Canada and the illegal alien immigrant caravan stays in Mexico.

Why can’t Trump control the border?

That's the thing. If #### is getting across the border into the U.S., that speaks as much or more about their border security. When you cross the border, you are usually under scrutiny by the border agency of the country you are entering, not the one you are leaving. At lease that is how it works here. In some parts of the world, typically in more authoritarian countries, it works both way.

Anyway, he isn't totally wrong. Our border security sucks, but it's pretty hypocritical of him to look down at Canada while for decades weapons, drugs, and human traffickers have infiltrated Canada from the U.S. I always thought that was more on us and our lax border control, not on them.

It sucks that Canada now has to align policies to appease a dip#### that no one here voted for, but I guess that's the way the world works especially when you are a de facto satellite of a world power.

[dino7c]

IDK, Trump says a lot of things and then the adults talk him down to reality

[Manhattanboy]

Man I wish I had loaded up on US$ a year or two ago.

If this goes through I suspect we will see C$ below US$0.65 or lower.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Man I wish I had loaded up on US$ a year or two ago.

If this goes through I suspect we will see C$ below US$0.65 or lower.

The expert they had on CBC said that if tariffs like that are implemented, Canada's GDP would fall by up to 5% according to some projections.

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

The expert they had on CBC said that if tariffs like that are implemented, Canada's GDP would fall by up to 5% according to some projections.

Would that mean an equivalent decrease in the C$?

[Locke]

Lol...this is kind of funny on both sides.

Is Oprah in charge of the application of Tariffs?

"You get a tariff and you get a tariff! Everyone gets a tariff!!!"

And then of course a version of the obligatory Seinfeld joke.

"You dont even know what a Tariff is, do you?"

Oranguan: "No, but they do...and they're the ones paying them!"

[dissentowner]

That orange buffoon is going to destroy the US economy. I feel bad for the average citizen down there that didn't vote for this.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

That orange buffoon is going to destroy the US economy. I feel bad for the average citizen down there that didn't vote for this.

I feel bad for the rest of us, particularly you younger guys with families, this is going to get real bad real quick

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Whynotnow

The entire Midwest would see energy prices rise immediately by about 25 percent. Virtually all of the feedstock to their refining capacity is fed from Canadian sources with no alternative paths available. I highly doubt he goes through with this. It’s bluster.

He will get some lame ass commitment from the goc, exclude energy and claim victory all at once.

LOL, exclude energy. Doubt that is the most important product for the states. They have more than enough capacity of their own. And excluding energy would defeat the purpose of the tariffs.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Trump wont care if pp kisses his ring. He will just see it as a sign of weakness and do whatever he wants anyways.

This time. This is the time the US will be there for Canada. It’s this time for sure…

[Whynotnow]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

LOL, exclude energy. Doubt that is the most important product for the states. They have more than enough capacity of their own. And excluding energy would defeat the purpose of the tariffs.

Actually crude oil and natural gas are Canadas largest export to the us, and it’s not even close. So yeah it’s important, vitally so.

They can’t just flip a switch and supply the refinieries in the Chicago market for example without Canadian crude. They have one supply source, the Enbridge Canadian mainline system. Even if you had excess crude in Texas it can’t get to the refineries uo north, and the refineries in Texas can’t refine extra product and can’t transport it back north if they could.

If he enacts tariffs on crude oil and natural gas the impact will be immediate on many of the battleground states in terms of rising energy costs. It would take decades to try to wean the us off of our energy sources, if it were even possible.

[Slava]

Yeah, energy is clearly important for Canada, but frankly we export a lot more than that to the US. While excluding energy is great, it doesn’t solve anything for us, and that 25% tariff will be catastrophic for some industries.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

Which of the following issues are you against?

Canada stopping the inflow of drugs?

Canada stopping the insane immigration policies of 2021-2024 that have caused massive spikes in youth unemployment, falling real wages and a housing crisis?

I don't understand why this is bad. These are literally my two biggest concerns for our country right now and Trump basically just found a way to solve both...and he's not even my president.

What a great day.

Haha, great satire! We all know that this doesn’t solve anything. Canada has already announced changes to immigration and we already try to stop drug inflows. How exactly does Trump taking this action solve any of these issues?