10-11-2016, 09:47 PM
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#1821
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Kavvy
I know exactly how condescending this sounds, I know you don't want or care about my pity and I am not exactly sure why, but...
I think I pity you.
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Don't pitty me!
PM me! I would love to chat. You obviously think I am a jerk. Every man on this earth is. I am no different, gonna mess up the first thing I say to you!
Why do you hate me so much? I am not Hillary or Trump! Both crooks but you pity me?
What am I missing? two liars full of bs? I didn't miss that.
Yet you feel hurt by my comments? Two people so corrupt.
PM me, who you think you are talking to is not the person you are.
Your last message to me was hate. I have hate in my soul. Yet I don't think you do!
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10-11-2016, 09:56 PM
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#1822
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Victoria, BC
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*Backs slowly out of thread...
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10-11-2016, 10:07 PM
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#1823
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: not lurking
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Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
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Somebody more observant than I, noticed that November 28 is actually the date that the Trump University trial is set to begin; read into that what you will, but it's not uncommon to mix up important dates, particularly when you're under stress. Perhaps it shows that he actually is more worried about that case than he'd like to let on.
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10-11-2016, 10:11 PM
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#1824
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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I wonder if Trump thinks as President he'll be able to dismiss all the legal actions against him. I wonder if that's maybe one of his biggest goals in winning.
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10-11-2016, 10:20 PM
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#1825
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
That was my first thought. Like my god, this guy thinks he's campaigning to be King
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Generalissimo seems more his style.
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10-12-2016, 12:25 AM
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#1826
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Winnipeg
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Guys?
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10-12-2016, 06:15 AM
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#1827
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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https://www.schneier.com/blog/archiv...ational_1.html
Schneier on "organizational doxing". This is quite nefarious, and unfortunately something to be expected.
Wouldn't surprise to see it happen in this election cycle, because Trump is obviously ready to do anything. But internationally this is already happening.
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The hackers, in some cases individuals and in others nation-states, are out to make political points by revealing proprietary, secret, and sometimes incriminating information. And the documents they leak do that, airing the organizations' embarrassments for everyone to see.
In all of these instances, the documents were real: the email conversations, still-secret product details, strategy documents, salary information, and everything else. But what if hackers were to alter documents before releasing them? This is the next step in organizational doxing# -- and the effects can be much worse.
It's one thing to have all of your dirty laundry aired in public for everyone to see. It's another thing entirely for someone to throw in a few choice items that aren't real.
Recently, Russia has started using forged documents as part of broader disinformation campaigns, particularly in relation to Sweden's entering of a military partnership with NATO, and Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
Forging thousands -- or more -- documents is difficult to pull off, but slipping a single forgery in an actual cache is much easier. The attack could be something subtle. Maybe a country that anonymously publishes another country's diplomatic cables wants to influence yet a third country, so adds some particularly egregious conversations about that third country. Or the next hacker who steals and publishes email from climate change researchers invents a bunch of over-the-top messages to make his political point even stronger. Or it could be personal: someone dumping email from thousands of users making changes in those by a friend, relative, or lover.
Imagine trying to explain to the press, eager to publish the worst of the details in the documents, that everything is accurate except this particular email. Or that particular memo. That the salary document is correct except that one entry. Or that the secret customer list posted up on WikiLeaks is correct except that there's one inaccurate addition. It would be impossible. Who would believe you? No one. And you couldn't prove it.
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10-12-2016, 07:13 AM
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#1828
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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10-12-2016, 07:34 AM
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#1829
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Self Imposed Exile
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
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Didn't Sarah Palin go on family vacations with her SuperPAC money? I know its different then political party donations, but it seemed like a way for her to get rich off donations, like TV pastors - or am I mistaken?
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10-12-2016, 07:37 AM
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#1830
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Self Imposed Exile
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chubeyr1
Don't pitty me!
PM me! I would love to chat. You obviously think I am a jerk. Every man on this earth is. I am no different, gonna mess up the first thing I say to you!
Why do you hate me so much? I am not Hillary or Trump! Both crooks but you pity me?
What am I missing? two liars full of bs? I didn't miss that.
Yet you feel hurt by my comments? Two people so corrupt.
PM me, who you think you are talking to is not the person you are.
Your last message to me was hate. I have hate in my soul. Yet I don't think you do!
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I responded to you via PM as requested, but no, I do not hate or feel hurt by you or your post. Now only pity and confused.
You may respond to this on this thread, but I will only respond to you now via PM
Lastly, thank you, I don't feel my soul is full of hate - I agree with you.
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10-12-2016, 08:05 AM
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#1831
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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10-12-2016, 08:09 AM
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#1832
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: St John's
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Well there ya go. Police Chief is promising disciplinary action against the officers. Good to see, very poor judgement for these officers to endorse someone in uniform.
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10-12-2016, 08:19 AM
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#1833
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Franchise Player
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Agree it was indeed not their place to wear campaign garb on the job, but effectively all law enforcement and service unions (border, immigration, fire, you name it) have endorsed Trump for a reason.
You have one candidate helping to promote the demonization of law enforcement in the public eye, and the other that acknowledges the problem and that we need to work on improving policing & community engagement, but still supports the men & women in uniform and the incredibly hard job they do every day.
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10-12-2016, 08:20 AM
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#1834
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Self Imposed Exile
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ducay
Agree it was indeed not their place to wear campaign garb on the job, but effectively all law enforcement and service unions (border, immigration, fire, you name it) have endorsed Trump for a reason.
You have one candidate helping to promote the demonization of law enforcement in the public eye, and the other that acknowledges the problem and that we need to work on improving policing & community engagement, but still supports the men & women in uniform and the incredibly hard job they do every day.
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Are you for or against mandatory police body cameras?
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10-12-2016, 08:22 AM
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#1835
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: St John's
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ducay
Agree it was indeed not their place to wear campaign garb on the job, but effectively all law enforcement and service unions (border, immigration, fire, you name it) have endorsed Trump for a reason.
You have one candidate helping to promote the demonization of law enforcement in the public eye, and the other that acknowledges the problem and that we need to work on improving policing & community engagement, but still supports the men & women in uniform and the incredibly hard job they do every day.
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Yes if the unions wish to publicly endorse a candidate than they can feel free to do that... However as I said there has to appear to be impartiality in your actual performance of the job.
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10-12-2016, 08:24 AM
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#1836
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ducay
Agree it was indeed not their place to wear campaign garb on the job, but effectively all law enforcement and service unions (border, immigration, fire, you name it) have endorsed Trump for a reason.
You have one candidate helping to promote the demonization of law enforcement in the public eye, and the other that acknowledges the problem and that we need to work on improving policing & community engagement, but still supports the men & women in uniform and the incredibly hard job they do every day.
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Why are you this willfully obtuse? The Police officers are to serve and protect the community, not make a political statement. Your second paragraph doesnt make any sense... Trump is the "law and order" candidate. He's the last person I'd think would demonize law enforcement.
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10-12-2016, 08:26 AM
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#1837
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kavvy
Are you for or against mandatory police body cameras?
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For, accountability and transparency is only a good thing. Influences officers' behaviours, communities' behaviour, and most importantly, helps increase the community's trust in law enforcement.
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Originally Posted by kerriffic
Yes if the unions wish to publicly endorse a candidate than they can feel free to do that... However as I said there has to appear to be impartiality in your actual performance of the job.
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Agree, that is what it said.
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10-12-2016, 08:28 AM
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#1838
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Victoria, BC
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How is Clinton demonizing law enforcement? Serious question - I probably missed it.
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10-12-2016, 08:30 AM
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#1839
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ducay
Agree it was indeed not their place to wear campaign garb on the job, but effectively all law enforcement and service unions (border, immigration, fire, you name it) have endorsed Trump for a reason.
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It should be noted that he's flat out lied, twice, in each debate (and probably in campaign stops) about these endorsements. Drives me nuts. Stop saying a federal agency endorsed you. It's the easiest thing in the world to disprove.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/politi...htmlstory.html
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Originally Posted by Izzle
Your second paragraph doesnt make any sense... Trump is the "law and order" candidate. He's the last person I'd think would demonize law enforcement.
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He's saying Hillary is the one demonizing law enforcement, by her openness to the grievances of those who could be described as anti-police and tying herself to Obama on that issue. Which is a stretch. But it's certainly fair to say that she's likely to do more to crack down on law enforcement and the problems (and outrage-motivated perceived problems) in that area, which is why many officers would understandably support her opponent.
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10-12-2016, 08:30 AM
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#1840
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Izzle
Why are you this willfully obtuse? The Police officers are to serve and protect the community, not make a political statement. Your second paragraph doesnt make any sense... Trump is the "law and order" candidate. He's the last person I'd think would demonize law enforcement.
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I understand your confusion because Ducay is trying to argue that Trump has the reasoned and balanced approach. Never heard that describe Trump, ever.
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