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Old 01-02-2026, 04:28 PM   #18341
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Nothing new to report guys.
Vibes are good with the team, winning makes for lighter moods and happier times.

Andersson hopefully sooner, rather than later later.
The other two likely only move if a great deal is presented.
So far there’s been no “knock your socks off” offers.

Go Zayne Go!
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Old 01-02-2026, 04:31 PM   #18342
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Gio was not accused of having ADHD, but a learning disability. They are not the same thing AT ALL.
Agreed. Not to mention trying to bring the lawyer angle into it. You know you have a weak argument when. Gio and I don't agree on much and I was guilty of this in the past before I realized what a crap poster it was making me. It's ok to disagree on here, leave the personal bs out of it.
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Old 01-02-2026, 04:36 PM   #18343
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I see. So you know the Flames will never, ever, ever rise any higher than the middle, but that the Sharks are absolutely certain to become a contender? Good to know. What's it like to have absolutely accurate knowledge of the future?
The Sharks top 3 point producers are 19, 20, and 23. They also just drafted Misa who should become a very good player and is 18.

The Flames top 3 point producers are 35, 29 (and about to leave), and 36. They do have Parekh who has potential

If you can't see the difference between the two, then I don't know what to say. One is a team on the rise, and one is a team about to fall.
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Was Markstrom an expiring deal? Did Conroy have an inability to extend players or did he just make a choice versus extending versus trading?

Big swings? The only big name player I ever heard about was Rantanen and that was a kicking tires type of inquiry. And rebuild or not, you'd be dumb not to see what the price was for a Rantanen.
Markstrom was a deal to make room for probably the best goaltender prospect in the world, I don't know that I would call that a rebuild, IMO that was just sound asset management
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Wait, so now the argument is that the Flames are actually building around Kadri, Backlund, and Andersson INTO the mushy middle?

lol you guys are wild.
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Markstrom was a deal to make room for probably the best goaltender prospect in the world, I don't know that I would call that a rebuild, IMO that was just sound asset management
I think when you get a 23 year old and a 17 year old back you can’t call it a retooling trade, probably more of a rebuilding trade given the age of the assets coming back.
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Old 01-02-2026, 04:46 PM   #18347
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You told everyone you are a lawyer.
Your location is Springbank.
To me both seem ######.....nobody cares where you live or what you do but it seems very important to you.
It is you 50 plus posts per day that bothers people.

Lionel you need to get back to work and focus on double billing clients.
What I do with my time is none of your business. How much I post is non of your business.

And I never double bill.
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Old 01-02-2026, 04:47 PM   #18348
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Wait, so now the argument is that the Flames are actually building around Kadri, Backlund, and Andersson INTO the mushy middle?

lol you guys are wild.
Those are 3 of their best players right now. Andersson is gone, and it has been suggested by many insiders that none of the other vets are going.

So yes, they are accepting the mushy middle if that is the case. Saying "we will accept an offer if someone greatly overpays" isn't the same thing as putting someone on the market. I would suggest most players in the league are available if a team is willing to grossly overpay.
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Those are 3 of their best players right now. Andersson is gone, and it has been suggested by many insiders that none of the other vets are going.

So yes, they are accepting the mushy middle if that is the case. Saying "we will accept an offer if someone greatly overpays" isn't the same thing as putting someone on the market. I would suggest most players in the league are available if a team is willing to grossly overpay.
Who said they’ll only move if someone grossly overpays?
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Those are 3 of their best players right now. Andersson is gone, and it has been suggested by many insiders that none of the other vets are going.

So yes, they are accepting the mushy middle if that is the case. Saying "we will accept an offer if someone greatly overpays" isn't the same thing as putting someone on the market. I would suggest most players in the league are available if a team is willing to grossly overpay.
Many insiders have suggested that at least one of Coleman and Kadri are going if not both. So yea, they are rebuilding in that case. I would suggest nobody in the league is available if a team is trying to get them for 40 cents on the dollar.

Also the accepting of the mushy middle by management and the owners has been a strange process

Zadorov trade - listen Murray, getting a 17 year old and a 14 year old will really help us win this year.

lindholm trade - listen Murray, getting a 19 year old, a 17 year old and another 17 year old will really help us win now. We also got a cap dump who is currently on the Canucks 4th line.

Hanifin trade - Hey Murray, listen getting a 17 year old and a 15 year old will really help us win now

Mangiapane trade - hey Murray, getting a 17 year old will really help us win

Markstrom trade - Hey getting a 23 year old and a 17 year old will help us win

Tanev trade - hey Murray, getting a 17 year old and a 20 year old will really help us win.

Murray must be an absolute moron if he actually thinks all those moves are helping him win games right now. Management has outright failed him if they told him they would try to remain competitive with those moves.

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The Sharks top 3 point producers are 19, 20, and 23. They also just drafted Misa who should become a very good player and is 18.

The Flames top 3 point producers are 35, 29 (and about to leave), and 36. They do have Parekh who has potential

If you can't see the difference between the two, then I don't know what to say. One is a team on the rise, and one is a team about to fall.

Agree with you here. Celebrini is already a top center and Misa has the tools to be one.

Structurally the Flames are flawed. Top centers are over 35. No real identity 3 or fourth line centers? No one is taking a team built like that as much more than a bubble one off.


Now i will put a caveat on some of my opinions that the first gm to come to Conroy with a first and a good Center prospect i think you can have your pick of flames players in a trade( with a few exceptions) .

Having said that i also think its the absolute last pice a team will trade. So is the inactivity on Conroys behalf the last year plus partly due to he wants centers and no one wants to give one up with the dearth of centers? Thought just crossed my mind.
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Wait, so now the argument is that the Flames are actually building around Kadri, Backlund, and Andersson INTO the mushy middle?

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No, but those players are responsible for keeping them in the mushy middle.

Trade them all, get great rebuilding assets for them and improve greatly your draft picks, including a potential elite player.
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Those are 3 of their best players right now. Andersson is gone, and it has been suggested by many insiders that none of the other vets are going.

So yes, they are accepting the mushy middle if that is the case. Saying "we will accept an offer if someone greatly overpays" isn't the same thing as putting someone on the market. I would suggest most players in the league are available if a team is willing to grossly overpay.
so many insiders like Lebrun not saying they are gone that they are constantly writing where will they go and have them on their top trade target lists. Players that the Flames are dangling are just the type of players that get traded closer to the deadline. It is what it is. I think that is why people get so tired of rehashing it everyday since Oct 20th. These trades were always going to be done in 3 to 4 weeks.
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Wait, so now the argument is that the Flames are actually building around Kadri, Backlund, and Andersson INTO the mushy middle?

lol you guys are wild.
Just needs a Stamkos and an O'Reilly and we're cup contenders.
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Agreed. Not to mention trying to bring the lawyer angle into it. You know you have a weak argument when. Gio and I don't agree on much and I was guilty of this in the past before I realized what a crap poster it was making me. It's ok to disagree on here, leave the personal bs out of it.
Maybe the lawyer should have thought about that before bringing up being a lawyer as some sort of innate superiority. That level of smug needs to be called out.
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Wait, so now the argument is that the Flames are actually building around Kadri, Backlund, and Andersson INTO the mushy middle?

lol you guys are wild.
Who do you think the Flames are building around ? It’s the problem - they aren’t building around anyone

Their top contributors however are their oldest and leaving via UFA players
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Maybe the lawyer should have thought about that before bringing up being a lawyer as some sort of innate superiority. That level of smug needs to be called out.
You can try to rewire their thinking but I doubt it prevents sparks from flying again in the future. Ignore list ≠ flipping the breaker.
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Old 01-02-2026, 05:06 PM   #18358
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Who do you think the Flames are building around ? It’s the problem - they aren’t building around anyone

Their top contributors however are their oldest and leaving via UFA players
Why is a rebuilding team not building around anyone a problem?

That’s kind of how it works. You draft the players you end up building around. Wolf, Parekh, and Coronato are good starts. Plenty of time left, no reason to get impatient about it.
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Agree with you here. Celebrini is already a top center and Misa has the tools to be one.

Structurally the Flames are flawed. Top centers are over 35. No real identity 3 or fourth line centers? No one is taking a team built like that as much more than a bubble one off.
To add to this, somehow our “rebuild” has seen the average age of the forwards / defence stay basically the exact same age (when you actually factor in usage) and rank 13th oldest amongst all NHL teams this season.

Overall, and in typical flames fashion, it just feels like the team is half assing this rebuild. They traded away veterans but somehow didn’t effectively get any younger.
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You can try to rewire their thinking but I doubt it prevents sparks from flying again in the future. Ignore list ≠ flipping the breaker.
I appreciate the use of “flipping the breaker” lol.
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