Star Trek General Discussion

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

I dislike the Neo-Constitution as well. The original 23'rd Century version Captained by Saavik prior to refit was much more streamlined.

The Neo-Constitution is what happens when you take a classic car and put an ugly spoiler and body kit on it.

You're falling for their trap!!

You're supposed to dislike the Neo-Constitution class. They spent practically half of their runtime thus far bludgeoning us over the head and rubbing our faces in the fact that all of Starfleet loves the new classes of ships and thinks the Enterprise D is a bloated old piece of dog crap.

They've also conclusively shown us that modern day Starfleet sucks and is filled to the brim with idiots.

Also, they're following movie plots damned near beat for beat, dont be surprised to be see humpback whales at some point.

Ergo, we're being led by the nose to the inevitable conclusion that at some point Picard and Co. are going to sneak into a Space Station and commandeer the decommissioned Enterprise D to save the day.

Its either that or they're going to get Worf to get them a Klingon ship so they can slingshot around the Sun in order to go back in time and bring the Enterprise D into the Future.

Old Captain, old Crew...old Ship just follows suit.

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by Locke

You're falling for their trap!!

You're supposed to dislike the Neo-Constitution class. They spent practically half of their runtime thus far bludgeoning us over the head and rubbing our faces in the fact that all of Starfleet loves the new classes of ships and thinks the Enterprise D is a bloated old piece of dog crap.

They've also conclusively shown us that modern day Starfleet sucks and is filled to the brim with idiots.

Also, they're following movie plots damned near beat for beat, dont be surprised to be see humpback whales at some point.

Ergo, we're being led by the nose to the inevitable conclusion that at some point Picard and Co. are going to sneak into a Space Station and commandeer the decommissioned Enterprise D to save the day.

Its either that or they're going to get Worf to get them a Klingon ship so they can slingshot around the Sun in order to go back in time and bring the Enterprise D into the Future.

Old Captain, old Crew...old Ship just follows suit.

You joke - but LaForge is the curator of the Starfleet Fleet museum which has everything from the 1701-A to the Voyager in it according to the credits sequence. I fully count on and I am giddy to hell to see the galaxy class again which I predict will happen and make me love this series even more.

I rolled all my points nostalgia and make no apologies for it!

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

You joke - but LaForge is the curator of the Starfleet Fleet museum which has everything from the 1701-A to the Voyager in it according to the credits sequence. I fully count on and I am giddy to hell to see the galaxy class again which I predict will happen and make me love this series even more.

I rolled all my points nostalgia and make no apologies for it!

Oh I'm not joking, I'm predicting.

And I get where you're coming from, I'm okay with a lot of that too just so long as it doesnt suck.

[Traditional_Ale]

I wonder in which episode we get the inevitable "shut up, Jean-Luc" from Wil Wheaton?

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Spoiler!

Anyone else think it is weird that Beverly would name her son with Picard. after her late husband? Was always under the impression that one of the major reasons they were reluctant to hook up was that Picard was her dead husband's best friend.

Spoiler!

Or you could buy into the theory that they didn't resist hooking up and Wesley is Picard's kid as well

[Monahammer]

Episode 2 was pretty stupid. Bad lady is hyper lame. Predictable twists. Fan service lines. This was pretty much what I feared.

[Monahammer]

Lowest common denominator plot lines... woof

[Shazam]

Yeah it was pretty stupid.

[Monahammer]

Why are they obsessed with having people smoke on the bridge? Talking over the viewscreen has degenerated to bits like those star fleet bridge commander app commercials.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Episode 2 was pretty stupid. Bad lady is hyper lame. Predictable twists. Fan service lines. This was pretty much what I feared.

Originally Posted by Shazam

Yeah it was pretty stupid.

Yeah, I said it a couple pages back. Looks like that episode is going to be divisive. Some people seemed to love it, and it had some decent moments, but overall I just felt there were too many moments where I thought my eyes were going to roll into the back of my head.

I think we are at the point where Fonzie is on the water-skis and the Jaws theme is beginning to play...

[direwolf]

Man, some of you guys are hard to please. I thought those first two episodes were quite good, especially episode 2. Sure, there are some little nit-picky things that bug me, but overall I'm really diggin' it so far.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Man, some of you guys are hard to please. I thought those first two episodes were quite good, especially episode 2. Sure, there are some little nit-picky things that bug me, but overall I'm really diggin' it so far.

what is star trek fandom but nit picking persevering?

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by Locke

You're falling for their trap!!

You're supposed to dislike the Neo-Constitution class. They spent practically half of their runtime thus far bludgeoning us over the head and rubbing our faces in the fact that all of Starfleet loves the new classes of ships and thinks the Enterprise D is a bloated old piece of dog crap.

They've also conclusively shown us that modern day Starfleet sucks and is filled to the brim with idiots.

Also, they're following movie plots damned near beat for beat, dont be surprised to be see humpback whales at some point.

Ergo, we're being led by the nose to the inevitable conclusion that at some point Picard and Co. are going to sneak into a Space Station and commandeer the decommissioned Enterprise D to save the day.

Its either that or they're going to get Worf to get them a Klingon ship so they can slingshot around the Sun in order to go back in time and bring the Enterprise D into the Future.

Old Captain, old Crew...old Ship just follows suit.

That might be tough.
Unless they've spent the last 30 years jig sawing that baby back together after Generations, I don't think we'll be seeing her again.

Though I wouldn't rule out some other Galaxy class, maybe they weld on what's left of the D's saucer...

[Monahammer]

I don't get what is interesting or quite good about female khan version 4.8 or whatever we're up to now. When the baddie is a total farce I find it hard to enjoy. Why are people in this future obsessed with smoking again? Throwing ships with Tractor beams? What is this, a star wars new trilogy movie? The Titan was already in red alert, it's shields would have been up... it's little unforced errors everywhere again.

Unless Bev Crusher is the actual baddie. That would be a good expectation inversion.

I actually booed my TV at the reveal as well. Even if it's a red herring, it is stupid as #### that we are watching a fanfic play out. Wish they had let our characters die in the past. The editing on the raffi saved by fight scene was also just garbage.

[OutOfTheCube]

I thought it was fun -- like I mentioned before the series started, this writing group is largely full of hacks so keeping to a simple mustache-twirling villain trying to kill everyone for some reason is probably for the best. She does seem to be a little too much of a weirdo though.

Modern Trek gets roped into this weird trope of having whichever main character Starfleet ship always be completely outclassed. This was interesting in the Star Trek 2009 reboot showing how just a mining ship from 100 years in the future was so far advanced beyond warships of the time, kind of a neat idea that made sense. But how does this weirdo bounty hunter type person have basically an invincible ship loaded with a gazillion weapons? Reminds me of Star Trek Nemesis in that way.

Federation technology should be almost untouchable, or at least only equaled by the other dominant galactic powers.

[Inglewood Jack]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

But how does this weirdo bounty hunter type person have basically an invincible ship loaded with a gazillion weapons? Reminds me of Star Trek Nemesis in that way.

this is still the king of them all, a group of uneducated monsters working in a mineshaft managed to create the quadrant's biggest, most powerful warship and keep it a secret from their slavers who happen to be the most paranoid surveillance heavy civilization around. but if you can turn Picard into a grinning ATV redneck then anything is possible.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

I thought it was fun -- like I mentioned before the series started, this writing group is largely full of hacks so keeping to a simple mustache-twirling villain trying to kill everyone for some reason is probably for the best. She does seem to be a little too much of a weirdo though.

Modern Trek gets roped into this weird trope of having whichever main character Starfleet ship always be completely outclassed. This was interesting in the Star Trek 2009 reboot showing how just a mining ship from 100 years in the future was so far advanced beyond warships of the time, kind of a neat idea that made sense. But how does this weirdo bounty hunter type person have basically an invincible ship loaded with a gazillion weapons? Reminds me of Star Trek Nemesis in that way.

Federation technology should be almost untouchable, or at least only equaled by the other dominant galactic powers.

Which I always find odd.

How do these random weirdos get access to these amazing ships with super advanced weaponry and a full crew who do everything they say so that they can carry on with their very obvious personal vendettas?

Is there some sort of shadowy 'Guild of Calamitous Intent' out there that supplies unhinged loonies with ships, crews and materiel to go out and exact vengeance and cause mayhem?

Where do they come across this stuff?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

That might be tough.
Unless they've spent the last 30 years jig sawing that baby back together after Generations, I don't think we'll be seeing her again.

Though I wouldn't rule out some other Galaxy class, maybe they weld on what's left of the D's saucer...

Get Geordi out on the hull with a sharpie writing 'ENTERPRISE' on the saucer.

"But I'm a Captain now..."

"I said MAKE. IT. SO!"

[OutOfTheCube]

Originally Posted by Locke

Which I always find odd.

How do these random weirdos get access to these amazing ships with super advanced weaponry and a full crew who do everything they say so that they can carry on with their very obvious personal vendettas?

Is there some sort of shadowy 'Guild of Calamitous Intent' out there that supplies unhinged loonies with ships, crews and materiel to go out and exact vengeance and cause mayhem?

Where do they come across this stuff?

Let's not forget the Kazon from Voyager, who are a species of violent paranoid morons who when we meet them are desperately searching for water on a planet's surface just to survive, then later in the same episode have warp-capable ships that match Voyager.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

Let's not forget the Kazon from Voyager, who are a species of violent paranoid morons who when we meet them are desperately searching for water on a planet's surface just to survive, then later in the same episode have warp-capable ships that match Voyager.

Yeah, well, you could essentially invalidate all of Trek with a simple "but the Kazon tho..."

And the Paklids.

And do we know why The Scimitar Shrike was just sitting around in space for what seemed like days?

Picard could have gotten there faster if he'd booked a trip on Expedia.