2014/2015 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Fire

Too bad the Flames didn't have Sven anymore. Sven + Hanowski for Malkin could have worked.

Don' kid yourself. You don't pull that off without adding the rights to Matt Deblouw.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by devo22

Don' kid yourself. You don't pull that off without adding the rights to Matt Deblouw.

I'll be really nice and give them Setoguchi too.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Fire

Too bad the Flames didn't have Sven anymore. Sven + Hanowski for Malkin could have worked.

Needs less hanowski.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Needs less hanowski.

And more Agostino?

[Enoch Root]

Malkin costs $9.5M for the next 7 years. For the remainder of the contract, he will be 29 - 35 years old.

Offensive players put up their best numbers in their 20s. In other words, Pitt has gotten the best years of the deal, now the crappier years remain (still some good ones obviously).

He is one-dimensional, and I am not sure I would be keen on his influence in the room (pure, unwarranted speculation on my part - and not saying a negative, just not exactly a positive).

Question: who gets the most points over the next 7 years, Malkin or Bennett? Keeping in mind that Bennett probably averages less than $4.5M per year over that time.

So the trade is a 30 something Malkin for Bennett, another $5M UFA and a 1st (and probably more).

Not a chance.

Not to mention, what do you say to Giordano when you're paying Malkin $9.5M?

[David Struch]

With the Flames including some of their 6 picks in the top 80, they could put together some pretty good packages for Malkin but I still wouldn't do it...

Wideman, Stajan, Colborne, Ferland, (Klimchuk, Hickey, Wotherspoon, Culkin)
Russell, Backlund, Bouma, Granlund, (Poirier, Jankowski, Arnold, Kulak)

[Poe969]

I don't see the need for Malkin. He's an amazing player but why trade players that work hard together and have made the second round for a "leader" on a team that got bounced in 5 games? Monahan is going to be amazing so is Bennett, Backlund is quietly becoming one of the leaders on the team and Stajan personifies what it means to be a Calgary Flame. That centre depth is pretty good.

I doubt the Flames even show interest in Malkin IF he becomes available.

[jammies]

Remember when people said not to get ahead of ourselves due to over-achieving this season, and not to mortgage the future for post-apex players? That still holds, and that is why the Flames do not need or want Malkin.

Even for free. If he was a free agent and was willing to come here for a "discount" 9.5 million/year for 6 years, it would be a bad idea. Giving up assets for him makes it terribad.

[Spencemid]

if he was a free agent willing to come here, that would most certainly not be a bad idea

[Imported_Aussie]

I wonder if a team like St. Louis or Nashville looks to Malkin as a guy to retool around? They had good regular season results, but come off first round losses. With a good base to work off, and the window to compete being immediate, could they be teams to make a move?
New York Islanders maybe as well, though Pittsburgh may not want to trade within their division

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Malkin costs $9.5M for the next 7 years. For the remainder of the contract, he will be 29 - 35 years old.

Offensive players put up their best numbers in their 20s. In other words, Pitt has gotten the best years of the deal, now the crappier years remain (still some good ones obviously).

He is one-dimensional, and I am not sure I would be keen on his influence in the room (pure, unwarranted speculation on my part - and not saying a negative, just not exactly a positive).

Question: who gets the most points over the next 7 years, Malkin or Bennett? Keeping in mind that Bennett probably averages less than $4.5M per year over that time.

So the trade is a 30 something Malkin for Bennett, another $5M UFA and a 1st (and probably more).

Not a chance.

Not to mention, what do you say to Giordano when you're paying Malkin $9.5M?

There is always going to be a premium on proven talent, even if they are at the plateau, or just south of it. A team can't be afraid to include such players in their pay structure though as it is literally impossible to fill a roster all with players both pre-apex and contributing. Right now we have room in the pay structure to add such a player, if it made sense. I'm not sure it does make sense for other reasons, but overpaying a player that is still likely to be very productive is not really an issue IMO.

I am also not sure that elite players fall into the same statistical curve as other players when it comes to sustaining peak production. Going by age statistics, Iginla should have dropped off a lot more than he has in recent years. Special players tend to hang on longer more often than average players.

[Hugh Jahrmes]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Special players tend to hang on longer more often than average players.

Quoted for truth. Edmonton is full of special players who have been hanging on so hard they haven't even begun their meteoric rise yet. If we compare with the normal arc of player development, with the time it's taking those guys to plateau/reach their projections, I bet they have at least 14 "peak" seasons each.

[oldschoolcalgary]

not sure if people are actually thinking about this seriously?

I like Gino...but on Pittsburgh.

he wouldn't fit in with this group. He doesn't play 100% all the time... even playing with Pittsburgh there are nights he's invisible.

you don't want to bring in tiers (or tears) into the locker room...with a guy like Malkin who isn't just as committed to the cause as the guy sitting next to him.

[Husky]

The only way the Flames should be looking at Malkin is for middle of the road parts. No key prospects or young players.

Backlund, Grandlund, Klimchuk, Flames 1st. And if Malkin bolts before contract is done Flames get something back.

However, a ton of other teams can offer something better.

[DionTheDman]

Originally Posted by Hugh Jahrmes

Quoted for truth. Edmonton is full of special players who have been hanging on so hard they haven't even begun their meteoric rise yet. If we compare with the normal arc of player development, with the time it's taking those guys to plateau/reach their projections, I bet they have at least 14 "peak" seasons each.

Well they hang on in the same way a dingleberry hangs on. Not the same!

[Jason14h]

Assuming Pitts wants to trade him out of conference teams that might make sense:

Colorado, ST.L, Dallas

Maybe even Vancouver

However, doesn't the team that would make the most sense to trade him to would be Edmonton!

Malkin can be the #1 C and allow McDavid to be the #2. Edmonton has a glut of wingers and Pitts needs one to play with Crosby. Pitts has ton of D spects, Oilers need some!

Eberle and RNH for Malkin and some defense......

[codynw]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Assuming Pitts wants to trade him out of conference teams that might make sense:

Colorado, ST.L, Dallas

Maybe even Vancouver

However, doesn't the team that would make the most sense to trade him to would be Edmonton!

Malkin can be the #1 C and allow McDavid to be the #2. Edmonton has a glut of wingers and Pitts needs one to play with Crosby. Pitts has ton of D spects, Oilers need some!

Eberle and RNH for Malkin and some defense......

Edmonton will never happen, Malkin has a NTC.

[dammage79]

I do not think Malkin gets traded. This is just Freidman musing his own thoughts.

That said, it makes sense to move him. But I am just not sure where he would accept a trade to. SJ? NY?

[mrdonkey]

If Malkin gets traded I expect it will be to NYR like every other big ticket hot shot who becomes available.

[Knut]

Big pass on Malkin. Russian Enigma players are so frustrating.