CP Mafia 3 - Super Smash Mafia - GAME OVER - Darkness Win!

[Drury18]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

2. I don't think redirection works that way. mafiascum.com is also blocked for me at work, can someone find out if there is a role that can redirect all of the initiators actions onto someone else. I think the mafia would have to redirect things that happen to Puxlut and why would they do that?

I think it goes A ---> B ----> C (A's action to B is redirected to C). I don't think you can go A ------> C ignoring B. But I could be wrong.

The only other redirection roles I can find aside from a Bus Driver (who seems to be able to take actions focused on two players and switch them) or a plain redirector (take one action, redirect to someone else) is the Captain who can order who can do what:

A Captain is a role who can choose what other roles in the game will do during the night, but those roles have an option to 'obey or disobey' his orders. If they obey, they will go through with the action. If they disobey, the action will not happen. The Captain is informed of what roles he has command of in his Role PM. At least 1, usually no more than 3. He only knows what the roles are, not who the roles are. Simplified, the Captain does not get results, he simply tells them what to do through the mod and those roles are faced with a YES or NO question pertaining to whether they agree with what he wants. The action typically takes place during the day as to not load down the night with awkward phasing.

There's also something called a Switch:

A Switch is a role that can choose at Night whether to enable or disable all roles of a given type. For instance, a Doctor Switch can choose whether all Doctors in the game would be effective on a given Night. If the Switch dies, the power associated with it is considered enabled for the rest of the game.

The most used role associated with Switch is Vigilante; historically, a Vigilante Switch is called a Tooth Fairy. The reason why Vigilantes are associated with Switches is that a bad Vigilante can single-handedly ruin a Town; with a Switch, the Town has some recourse against a bad Vig beyond finding and lynching it. By the same token, this usage of Switch can be extended to control any role that may bring harm to the Town if used improperly, such as Bus Driver.

With this in mind, Switches are commonly, but not necessarily, Town-aligned.

Compare and contrast Enabler, particularly in the case of Mafia Switches.

If anti-Town Switches are to be used, a better design move would be one that limited power roles on both the Town's side and the Mafia's side. For example, a game may have a Doctor, a Mafia Doctor, and a Mafia-aligned Doctor Switch; thus forcing the Mafia to consider whether it wants to give up its Doctor in order to stop the Town Doctor. The example becomes more intriguing if the Serial Killer is made the Switch instead, as the SK has its own agenda; this idea is used in the Switch setup.

My power is not redirection. Unless it's on me with out me knowing? Is that possible?

[Mazrim]

Originally Posted by mrkajz44

You know what - I hadn't really thought of it this way until now. This is sort of using 3rd party information for guilt / innocence, which is against the rules.

I will back off on this and focus back on the thread here at CP only. Thanks for the guidance Mazrim, and sorry for breaking / bending some of the rules a few times already in this game (first time, please don't hate me!)

It's a gray area because while the Quicktopic is outside the game, it's also something I am endorsing by linking to. The contents of the posts in the twilight thread can be discussed with no issue.

[Drury18]

Originally Posted by East Coast Flame

Just to clarify - in the MOT thread there was someone whose name showed up as "secret" and was defending GGG?

Was GGG in the twilight thread?

There were 3 of them who claimed to be GGG.

A "GGG", a "ggg" and a "Secret 2 ggg".

[Hockeyguy15]

I'm leaning toward GGG not actually following Puxlut, and that ECF was indeed his target to follow.

[Mazrim]

Drury: This is not a ####### mod game.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Mazrim

Drury: This is not a ####### mod game.

Exactly what a ####### mod would say.

[Wood]

I dont know if GGG is being truthful about being lynchproof. There's only one way to find out, and it may waste a day for us. Is it worth the risk?

If not today, I think I'd like to try and get more information on the guardians. We learned today that the externals powers may be fake. Leaving GGG for now starseeds death would maybe tell us something. I've had him and girly linked all game too so if he flips Mafia girly will be an easy vote for me later

[Oling_Roachinen]

I kid

[Timbo]

Originally Posted by Drury18

There were 3 of them who claimed to be GGG.

A "GGG", a "ggg" and a "Secret 2 ggg".

This ties in nicely to my post here http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpos...postcount=1798
It is quite possible dissentowner was secret,ggg or Secret 2 ggg

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Wood

I dont know if GGG is being truthful about being lynchproof. There's only one way to find out, and it may waste a day for us. Is it worth the risk?

If not today, I think I'd like to try and get more information on the guardians. We learned today that the externals powers may be fake. Leaving GGG for now starseeds death would maybe tell us something. I've had him and girly linked all game too so if he flips Mafia girly will be an easy vote for me later

In my opinion no it isn't worth wasting a lynch, the risk is too great.

Starseed hasn't really done anything mafia like though, should we really lynch him just for the Guardian factor? We didn't even get any info on the Eternals from the Matt card flip.

[Wood]

Oh yeah in the MOT thread one of the MOTs mentioned how they will tell us which "faction" killed devo. So its entirely possible that there's more than 1 group making night kills. Could it have been the guardians making the 2nd kill on day 1? I think we'll find out during the next MOT chat

[GGG]

I was in the twilight thread. Then secret posted that i was investigated. Then I posted as Secret (ggg) to show that anyone can change there name to anything.

Why Puxlut?

She is the quiet one in this game. Go back through the posts and tell me who we have the least information on. If you go through the votes she votes once and stays on it. Doesn't get too accusatory, I wanted to know more info for her.

Girly, Why are you assuming that Puxlut is town?? The reason anyone would redirect my tracking onto puxlut is that they believe I could have a one time kill and wanted to redirect it to the doctor.

[Aeneas]

Originally Posted by Drury18

There were 3 of them who claimed to be GGG.

A "GGG", a "ggg" and a "Secret 2 ggg".

I find that quite funny for some reason.
I really must try to get into the next twilight quicktopic.

[Aeneas]

After GGG's post, no longer as funny as I thought.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by GGG

I was in the twilight thread. Then secret posted that i was investigated. Then I posted as Secret (ggg) to show that anyone can change there name to anything.

Why Puxlut?

She is the quiet one in this game. Go back through the posts and tell me who we have the least information on. If you go through the votes she votes once and stays on it. Doesn't get too accusatory, I wanted to know more info for her.

Girly, Why are you assuming that Puxlut is town?? The reason anyone would redirect my tracking onto puxlut is that they believe I could have a one time kill and wanted to redirect it to the doctor.

Ummmmm.....Didn't they redirect your tracking away from Puxlut?

[Drury18]

Originally Posted by Mazrim

Drury: This is not a ####### mod game.

Oh I can see it now. I won't be infracted for the using the word and implying the word several times, I'll be infracted for suggesting Mazrim's one.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by GGG

I was in the twilight thread. Then secret posted that i was investigated. Then I posted as Secret (ggg) to show that anyone can change there name to anything.

Why Puxlut?

She is the quiet one in this game. Go back through the posts and tell me who we have the least information on. If you go through the votes she votes once and stays on it. Doesn't get too accusatory, I wanted to know more info for her.

Girly, Why are you assuming that Puxlut is town?? The reason anyone would redirect my tracking onto puxlut is that they believe I could have a one time kill and wanted to redirect it to the doctor.

#1. Puxlut just stated she can't self-deflect
#2. Why would anyone think you have a one-time kill when you joined the Guardians?
#3. Even if they thought #2 was true, why would they think your target would be Puxlut?

I don't assume Puxlut is town or mafia but looking at the possibility of both, I don't see why if she was mafia why the mafia would need to protect her or if she was town, why would the town would need to protect her.

Originally Posted by GGG

She is the quiet one in this game.

Because it seems like nobody listens to me anyways.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Puxlut

Because it seems like nobody listens to me anyways.

Don't give up, you aren't helping us when you pull a hmmhmmcamo and pack it in.