Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by fotze2

My CFO has booked a three hour training session next week for Bill S-211 training. Says every company in the country has to do this training. Its an anti-slavery bill. Is that true? anyone else doing it? I'm not bitching, its just a big thing that I would have thought would have been in the news.

It relates to publicly listed companies or companies of a specific size but the reporting requirements are not really defined AFAIK.

As part of NAFTA renegotiations, Canada has committed to ensuring more ethical supply chains in terms of the importation of goods produced through forced or child labour.

[Muta]

Every day I become more concerned/depressed that Marlaina and the conservative clown party are preventing real, serious high dollar investment in this province due to extreme virtue signaling. Alberta should be energy leaders, not just O+G leaders, and there's lots of renewable projects happening with the big energy companies right here in our province - they see the opportunity, and that's how the market decides. You'd think these market-loving conservative clowns would recognize this.

If the world wants more renewables, let's give it to them - we have lots of sunshine and wind to share in this province, and the dollars are being sidelined because 'owning the libs' and excessively proclaiming their desire to make love to Trudeau.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by fotze2

My CFO has booked a three hour training session next week for Bill S-211 training. Says every company in the country has to do this training. Its an anti-slavery bill. Is that true? anyone else doing it? I'm not bitching, its just a big thing that I would have thought would have been in the news.

It is part of the regime that training is mandated so as to be compliant. Three hours seem like a long time, but yup, we did it as well.

[KelVarnsen]

Are you saying Marlaina and Trudeau should just #### and release the tension?

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by KelVarnsen

Are you saying Marlaina and Trudeau should just #### and release the tension?

There’s be so much jealousy if that happened that tens of thousands of dude bros would have to rethink their truck stickers.

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by KelVarnsen

Are you saying Marlaina and Trudeau should just #### and release the tension?

Taste the biscuit!

[DoubleK]

$200 annual fee to drive an EV?!

[Ironhorse]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

$200 annual fee to drive an EV?!

Probably to capture the lack of gasoline levied road tax that EV's are currently not paying. $200/yr is probably a good deal in this case.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by KelVarnsen

Are you saying Marlaina and Trudeau should just #### and release the tension?

Y'know that sound that sideshow bob makes when thinking of sleeping with Selma. Yeah.

[Regorium]

Originally Posted by Ironhorse

Probably to capture the lack of gasoline levied road tax that EV's are currently not paying. $200/yr is probably a good deal in this case.

Gas tax has been paused for like a year and only just partially returned. So if oil prices go too high and gas tax goes away, does the EV tax go away too?

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by Maccalus

Don't know if they put this type of math into it, but if a 6ft tall person was standing on a non elevated position, a windmill approx. 230 ft tall would be below the horizon at 35 km distance.

Nice try, round-earther!

[Ozy_Flame]

Alberta introduces $200 yearly tax on drivers with electric vehicles

Drivers with electric vehicles in Alberta will soon have to pay a $200 yearly tax on their vehicles, the province announced during its unveiling of Budget 2024 Thursday afternoon.

The province says although the number of electric vehicles (EVs) in Alberta is currently low, EVs are being purchased in “ever-increasing numbers,” and while EVs tend to be heavier than similar internal combustion vehicles and cause more wear and tear on provincial roadways, their owners pay no fuel tax.

The provincial government added that while fuel tax revenue is not dedicated to funding the construction and maintenance of provincial roads, there are “nevertheless fairness concerns with drivers of other vehicles and longer-term challenges associated with declining fuel tax revenue.”

I take it there's still no tax on huge, jacked-up pickup trucks flying down the highways, beating up the roads, and can barely see children in front of their own bumpers below the hood, right?

[Fuzz]

I think EV taxes are good policy, unless there is some better long term plan to re-coup gas taxes that should go to pay for roads(in theory?). And Texas does the same thing, and we are Texas North, so...

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Alberta introduces $200 yearly tax on drivers with electric vehicles




I take it there's still no tax on huge, jacked-up pickup trucks flying down the highways, beating up the roads, and can barely see children in front of their own bumpers below the hood, right?

Well, they do pay fuel tax, so there is.

But the “fairness” argument from the UCP is hilarious.

[Ozy_Flame]

Either apply the weight rationale to all vehicles or don't apply it at all. Can't single out EV's.

Also, utilities prices have gone up so bloody high in Alberta, everyone is already paying an EV tax due to the UCP's inability to control utility prices.

[Faust]

Corey Hogan

Okay, ran some quick calculations on what Alberta Budget 2024 tells us when adjusted for population and inflation (using the government's own figures).

Over life of budget, spending per Albertan down 6% in Health.

K-12 down 7%
Social service ministries down 11%.

https://x.com/coreyhogan/status/1763...921157947?s=61

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Faust

Corey Hogan

Okay, ran some quick calculations on what Alberta Budget 2024 tells us when adjusted for population and inflation (using the government's own figures).

Over life of budget, spending per Albertan down 6% in Health.

K-12 down 7%
Social service ministries down 11%.

https://x.com/coreyhogan/status/1763...921157947?s=61

Well that should fix things. WTF?

[surferguy]

Awesome - Teachers working with less but kids classrooms getting bigger. ####ing wicked. Love that. My son has 34 kids in his kindy class now. As of yesterday 30 new kids have arrived at my kids elementary school.

Seems totally sustainable.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Ironhorse

Probably to capture the lack of gasoline levied road tax that EV's are currently not paying. $200/yr is probably a good deal in this case.

It's the equivalent of 2200 litres of gas. Which would get you:

27500 kms in an 8L/100km vehicle, or 22000 kms in a 10L/100km, etc

EVs only make economic sense when you drive quite a bit, but I don't know how common it really is to rack up 20k kms per year without a bunch of distance travel (not doubting that lots of people do it, but I think it's the exception not the norm)?

[accord1999]

Originally Posted by Regorium

Gas tax has been paused for like a year and only just partially returned. So if oil prices go too high and gas tax goes away, does the EV tax go away too?

There's still a Federal fuel tax (totaling about $900M/year in Alberta) and most of the proceeds will end up going back to the province/city that it was collected from to pay for local infrastructure.