Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[Fuzz]

Morons elect idiots that do stupid things, news at 11.

[Faust]

Country musician Corb Lund criticizes Alberta minister over coal application support

https://globalnews.ca/news/10315412/...e-application/

Corb Lund says that after meeting with Energy Minister Brian Jean, he doesn’t believe the minister knows enough about the issue.

“I met with Brian Jean to discuss the coal issue a couple of months ago. And I was alarmed by how little he knew,” Lund said in an email to The Canadian Press.

“I knew more about the coal issue than he did, and I’m just a guitar player, not the minister of energy. It’s chilling to me that ill-informed politicians are making decisions about our water.”

[Torture]

Drop out the coal mining part and this is evergreen tbh

"I met with Brian Jean.....and I was alarmed by how little he knew"

[Looch City]

Corb, let me introduce you to the ENTIRE UCP PARTY AND MINISTERS.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Faust

Country musician Corb Lund criticizes Alberta minister over coal application support

https://globalnews.ca/news/10315412/...e-application/

Corb Lund says that after meeting with Energy Minister Brian Jean, he doesn’t believe the minister knows enough about the issue.

“I met with Brian Jean to discuss the coal issue a couple of months ago. And I was alarmed by how little he knew,” Lund said in an email to The Canadian Press.

“I knew more about the coal issue than he did, and I’m just a guitar player, not the minister of energy. It’s chilling to me that ill-informed politicians are making decisions about our water.”

But at least they are wise enough to consult with experts to inform policy, right?

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Ask an average person what a PAC is. Most voters don't pay attention to that, let alone what the acronym is.

To assume we already have 'political parties' is political wonk speak and doesn't work for most.

Also, it insults the intelligence of people who already vote in municipal elections and can decipher the differences between two viable candidates. And municipal elections in both major cities (as Marlaina suggests needs it) don't have abysmal turnouts as it is.

I'd like to see the stats and polling on how many non-voters will suddenly vote in municipal elections based on parties. Until then it's a unnecessary idea that is simply ideological grandstanding from a party who loves to grandstand.

Essentially what you are saying is that the illusion of the absence of parties is better than transparency.

So yes voters are smart enough to vote for the most viable candidate that shares their views. The most viable candidate who supports their views will be the one with the most money to spend on visibility. That is the candidate backed by one of the two large PACs.

So why pretend this apparatus doesn’t exist already? It needs regulation.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

While many people might not know what a PAC is or the specific names of them in Calgary they certainly have a lot of influence in the election. The PACs spent as much, if not more, than the actual candidates at $2.1M in the last election. The biggest spender helped elected 8 of councillors so their efforts very likely helped.

And the second largest help elect the other 6

[puffnstuff]

I check on candidates first by seeing if they are associated in any way with craig chandler and proceed accordingly from there.

[Fuzz]

I check to make sure they haven't sexually abused children, which is apparently more effort than most in my ward made.

[Lubicon]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Trees just get in the way of mining that coal anyways

Strip mining prevents forest fires as we used to say in university.

[Mazrim]

Originally Posted by Lubicon

Strip mining prevents forest fires as we used to say in university.

Congratulations, you're soon to be announced as the new Minister of Environment for the provincial government!

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Mazrim

Congratulations, you're soon to be announced as the new Minister of Environment for the provincial government!

Minister of Environment Truth. Red Tape Reduction approved.

[Faust]

Martin Z. Olszynski

Just so we’re clear: Alberta is a place where a landowner can’t legally say NO to O&G development, but also can’t say YES to renewables. Strong and free, right? What a sad joke. #ableg

https://x.com/molszyns/status/1762869209317417077?s=61

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Renewables will have new reclamation bonds...meanwhile oil and gas owes 251 million in unpaid taxes to rural municipalities plus whatever the current abandoned well clean up figure is.

Originally Posted by Faust

Just so we’re clear: Alberta is a place where a landowner can’t legally say NO to O&G development, but also can’t say YES to renewables. Strong and free, right? What a sad joke. #ableg

This is what you get when a fossil fuel lapdog is the premier.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

This is what you get when a fossil fuel lapdog is the premier.

She also sucks at that to.

[ZedMan]

Originally Posted by Faust

Martin Z. Olszynski

Just so we’re clear: Alberta is a place where a landowner can’t legally say NO to O&G development, but also can’t say YES to renewables. Strong and free, right? What a sad joke. #ableg

https://x.com/molszyns/status/1762869209317417077?s=61

Gotta hand it to them for being consistent(ly big government)

[Whynotnow]

There was some great discussion on the moratorium here, I know frequitude was a supporter thinking it was needed to deal with grid issues. I need to check all the details but I’m thinking this didn’t get dealt with. It sure seems like this was the biggest way they could figure out to basically ice the entire industry for philosophical reasons and thumb their nose at the Feds. Incredible, I wish I was surprised.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by Whynotnow

There was some great discussion on the moratorium here, I know frequitude was a supporter thinking it was needed to deal with grid issues. I need to check all the details but I’m thinking this didn’t get dealt with. It sure seems like this was the biggest way they could figure out to basically ice the entire industry for philosophical reasons and thumb their nose at the Feds. Incredible, I wish I was surprised.

The grid issues would exist with or without today's announcement, they are a separate operational issue that is being worked on as we speak. There are jurisdictions with much higher penetration of inverter based resources that figured these problems out and and Alberta will too.

If the maps that were tweeted out are an accurate representation of the 35km buffer zone, wind is all but dead.

You may see solar farms continue but the footprint required is much larger than an equivalent amount of wind generators with a lower capacity factor.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

I check on candidates first by seeing if they are associated in any way with craig chandler and proceed accordingly from there.

Craig Chandler is what you get if you order Ezra Levant from Allibabas

[puffnstuff]

Does anyone know, or did they say, how they arrived at the 35 km number?