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Old 06-19-2010, 08:14 AM   #1781
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Soccerroos...great name.
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Old 06-19-2010, 08:21 AM   #1782
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1-0 Australia after 20 minutes... Keep it coming!
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Old 06-19-2010, 08:26 AM   #1783
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Gotta feel for the Aussies. They have been given a tough task by the officials. Both reds they've received have been very marginal. What a crying shame.
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Old 06-19-2010, 08:27 AM   #1784
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Red card and a goal for Ghana

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Old 06-19-2010, 08:27 AM   #1785
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You want a bad referee? This guy is a definition of one! The ball hit an Australian player's hand. Nothing he could do! And he gets a red as well?? BS. 1-1 from a penalty. Horrible call....
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Old 06-19-2010, 08:27 AM   #1786
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Absolutely a red card. Ball was headed into the net and clearly struck him flush on the arm.
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Old 06-19-2010, 08:29 AM   #1787
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^ Not much he could do though. It was pretty point blank. Penalty, yes. Red card, harsh.
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Old 06-19-2010, 08:31 AM   #1788
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Absolutely a red card. Ball was headed into the net and clearly struck him flush on the arm.
No, it shouldn't have been a penalty, a red card is just ridicoulus. It STRUCK him, that's the keyword. He didn't play it with his hand like Vidic yesterday, the guy couldn't do anything.... This is ridicoulous. It would be a shame if an African nation didn't go to the next round, they're doing everything to make it happen.
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Hand ball preventing a sure goal is an automatic red. I think it is the same thing as bringing down an attacking player if you are the last man, thus preventing a scoring opportunity.

Maybe the FIFA rule is flawed but looks like he called it by the book.

This is what is states,

"denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity
by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within
his own penalty area)"

It is obviously a judgment call, but from a referee's point of view Kewell's arm was away from his body when the ball struck him. Maybe this is yet another reason why soccer should have instant replay, like most other major sports.

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Old 06-19-2010, 08:38 AM   #1790
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Hand ball preventing a sure goal, regardless if intentional or not is an automatic red. I think it is the same thing as bringing down an attacking player if you are the last man, thus preventing a scoring opportunity.

Maybe the FIFA rule is flawed but looks like he called it by the book.
I could live with the penalty, but a red was too harsh. There was no INTENTION. Bringing down an attacking player is different because there is intent to pervent a scoring opportunity.
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Old 06-19-2010, 08:41 AM   #1791
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Talk about a deserved red card...
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Old 06-19-2010, 08:46 AM   #1792
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Talk about a deserved red card...
It was a hard tackle but he got ball first meaning a red would have been extremely harsh.

The red to Kewell could have went either way and really was not that harsh.

Kewell's arm was away from his body and was even moving a little before the ball made contact, probably wasn't intentional but the ref pretty much has to give him a red for that by the rule book.

If Kewell's arm was flush against the side of his body he doesn't get a red but if you stop a goal and your arm is away from your body it is a red more often then not.
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Preventing a sure goal with a foul as last man back is a red card, anytime and everytime.
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Nicolas Anelka is supposedly being sent home due to a bust up with Raymond Domenech. Anelka missed training on Saturday. He is alleged to have swore at Domenech after being substituted against Mexico.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...10/8749698.stm

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It was a hard tackle but he got ball first meaning a red would have been extremely harsh.

The red to Kewell could have went either way and really was not that harsh.

Kewell's arm was away from his body and was even moving a little before the ball made contact, probably wasn't intentional but the ref pretty much has to give him a red for that by the rule book.

If Kewell's arm was flush against the side of his body he doesn't get a red but if you stop a goal and your arm is away from your body it is a red more often then not.
Tackling from behind is always dangerous, and why a red card, more often than not, is deserved. It's like chepshot to the head in hockey. As for Kewell, he could have been bringing his arm back to his body... A yellow would have been fair, a red is too harsh. I mean, if Vidic only got a yellow yesterday for a CLEAR intentional handball, I can't understand why he got the red.
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Tackling from behind is always dangerous, and why a red card, more often than not, is deserved. It's like chepshot to the head in hockey. As for Kewell, he could have been bringing his arm back to his body... A yellow would have been fair, a red is too harsh. I mean, if Vidic only got a yellow yesterday for a CLEAR intentional handball, I can't understand why he got the red.
Wasn't a direct tackle from behind, more of behind from an angle, and he got the ball before body. Getting the ball is what made it not a red.

Vidic only got a yellow because his did not stop a goal directly.

As was mentioned before any time the last man back stops a direct goal with a foul, it is a red card.
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Old 06-19-2010, 09:26 AM   #1797
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It another one of those rules where if it's a penalty for deliberate handball in the box preventing a goal than it's a red card. No choice.
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The red to Kewell could have went either way and really was not that harsh.

Kewell's arm was away from his body and was even moving a little before the ball made contact, probably wasn't intentional but the ref pretty much has to give him a red for that by the rule book.

If Kewell's arm was flush against the side of his body he doesn't get a red but if you stop a goal and your arm is away from your body it is a red more often then not.
Yup this is correct. Arm cannot be away from body. While defending, your arm cannot block space, if that makes any sense. That's a foul 100% of the time.

Unless it's against the US.
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Old 06-19-2010, 09:40 AM   #1799
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Interesting.

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FIFA have announced that single yellow cards received at this year's World Cup will only be cleared after the quarter-final stage of the competition.
The move is a change from previous years where players booked just once during the group games went into the knock-out stage - round of 16 - with a clean slate.


One of the reasons for the move is to help key players avoid missing the final if their team got there.
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Although a little OT, and although circumstances and the scope were different blah blah, I have a little bit less sympathy for the US and refereeing mistake (such as it was, there was pushing by the US before the ball was in the box, and, the whistle blew right after that push occured) remembering this incident 3 years ago.

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