2025 World Series - Toronto Blue Jays vs Los Angeles Dodgers

[Beninho]

Roberts didn’t pull Muncy even though he’s barely faster than Kirk, you don’t take off your best hitters in the world series in a close game, im sorry it’s over managing. Dave Roberts isn’t a genius, he just did not overthink the game. John Schneider did. The only player that I get taking out was Bo, Barger and Kirk both should have remained in the game because you already are down two good bats. It’s not rocket science, Tyler Heinemen could barely even run the base paths properly

[dino7c]

I mean they could have taken a well outside pitch and won the game...it was an 18 inning game it's hard to be mad at anything

[ben voyonsdonc]

Originally Posted by Kidder

What an insane game.

Ohtani can pitch a complete game and Beiber has struggled to get thru 3-4 innings this postseason.

Doesn’t look good for tomorrow.

Ohtani can’t pitch a complete game. He’s coming off of elbow surgery and hasn’t gotten close to a complete game yet.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

I think if you watch the tape, he streaked something on a swing 8n final at bat.
Can't risk him being hurt and not playing the rest of the series
Or maybe I was already drunk then

Yeah, I saw it. But I don't think that's why he was pulled. If he doesn't get on base he probably stays.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Yeah. The only real questionable sub was Barger.

Bichette was always coming out, no way was he playing 18 innings at 2nd. The key bad decision here is having Bo behind Vlad in the lineup when you know that will be IKF eventually.

Springer hurt himself. And really the Schneider sub almost worked, they probably should have stopped him at 3rd with Vlad on deck.

Kirk looked off when he was subbed out, him not playing 18 innings today probably isn't the worst thing big picture for this series, and Heineman got 1st to 3rd on that play which was the goal. They just failed to cash him in.

Barger is the one where you didn't gain much speed anyways, and you lost a potential impact bat.

Vlad would have been walked
I don’t mind sending Schneider there
Make them execute. Which they did.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by browna

How do you think Little feels about is giving up another game losing playoff HR? Of course this all stems from when Schenider messed him up with the idiotic decision to put him in a foreign situation in Seattle.
Then his hollow words about trusting everyone in the room, only to not call Little to warm up in any game since. So much for the trust. And now he gets pinned with the loss.
And yes Schenider could’ve prevented these extra 9 innings with walking Ohtanhi instead of having him hit the game tying Hr.

I don’t really care how Little feels. His job is to perform and he failed again - against a lefty as well

Two things can be true - Schnieder made some mistakes and Little also sucks

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc

Ohtani can’t pitch a complete game. He’s coming off of elbow surgery and hasn’t gotten close to a complete game yet.

and his legs are sore from all the walking

[browna]

Well, this is about as demoralizing a loss as you can have.
This was the game that would’ve sent it back to Toronto at worst.

Both teams are tired and fully utilized pitchers but Dodgers are on a high. And clearly such a terrible game overall for the Jays at the plate can very easily bleed into things 15 hours from now.
Only hope is Beiber pitches a gem and Ohtani is tired and can get through 5 or less.

[dino7c]

Just a reminder the Dodgers had ONE more hit this game

[ben voyonsdonc]

I’d guess Springer is done for the series. Obliques are pretty much the most important muscle for swinging. If he’s not magically feeling better in the next 12-14 hours, I think we should see Loperfido instead.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by browna

How do you think Little feels about is giving up another game losing playoff HR? Of course this all stems from when Schenider messed him up with the idiotic decision to put him in a foreign situation in Seattle.
Then his hollow words about trusting everyone in the room, only to not call Little to warm up in any game since. So much for the trust. And now he gets pinned with the loss.
And yes Schenider could’ve prevented these extra 9 innings with walking Ohtanhi instead of having him hit the game tying Hr.

So how would you have used Little tonight? Whether he puts them in the 8th inning, 12th inning, or puts him in the 17th Little could have given up a game losing HR. That's kind of how extra innings works.

Ignore the 7th inning decision for a second (no guarantee the Dodgers don't tie the game in another way).

Sounds like to me you just have an issue with the manager. Is he perfect? No chance. But the team is in the World Series and going toe to toe with a freaking all star team.

[GirlySports]

In 2018, the Dodgers lost the next two games after winning in 18 innings

[woob]

That was wild to witness. I was intending to go to bed early tonight after staying up late last night watching Better Call Saul.

Jay’s definitely missed some big opportunities there, and maybe made a couple bad choices. But still, that’s was so cool to watch.

Go Jays!

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Inferno

Yeah, I saw it. But I don't think that's why he was pulled. If he doesn't get on base he probably stays.

Fair enough. I don't think he can play 18 innings today and again tomorrow
Worst part is I'm pretty sure Springer is, done for a bit anyway, so going forward it's tough

[SuperMatt18]

In extra innings Freeman actually showed why it's such a hard decision to intentionally walk Shohei too.

With Betts and Freeman behind him he has so much protection - Freeman has 7 homers in his last 10 World Series games.

Still should have done it in the 7th even knowing that but it's where having that protection in the lineup is so key.

[ben voyonsdonc]

Is there a guy who has gone from nobody to fan favourite to nobody to fan favourite to nobody quite like Davis Schneider? He’s looked like he has never played baseball before. I know Schneider hasn’t used him much but after watching him in his appearances in the World Series, I understand why.

[EldrickOnIce]

Probably the most unbreakable record in Sports set tonight.
Ohtani on base 9 times, right?

[browna]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

So how would you have used Little tonight? Whether he puts them in the 8th inning, 12th inning, or puts him in the 17th Little could have given up a game losing HR. That's kind of how extra innings works.

Ignore the 7th inning decision for a second (no guarantee the Dodgers don't tie the game in another way).

Sounds like to me you just have an issue with the manager. Is he perfect? No chance. But the team is in the World Series and going toe to toe with a freaking all star team.

Sure, it all stems from the unanimously panned decision to bring him in vs Seattle. You basically rendered him useless for his own confidence for the rest of the playoffs. You don’t have him warmup at all in the next 4 games and then throw him in. Now he gets blamed tonight because the manager makes other decisions much earlier in the game. If he didn’t shatter his confidence in a terrible decision vs Seattle he probably comes in earlier tonight.

But he didn’t.

His career in Toronto is over was my point. But not because he’s as bad as he’s being made out to be.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc

Is there a guy who has gone from nobody to fan favourite to nobody to fan favourite to nobody quite like Davis Schneider? He’s looked like he has never played baseball before. I know Schneider hasn’t used him much but after watching him in his appearances in the World Series, I understand why.

The guy is useless. Everyone is a fan favourite when they kickoff their career with some level of success, but after scouts find out your challenges you have to adapt. He hasn't and it's showed. He's not particularly fast either. I'd wager he gets DFAed some point next year. We need an upgrade there.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

Fair enough. I don't think he can play 18 innings today and again tomorrow

It might end up being a blessing for tomorrow but at the time I think he was just trying to increase his chances of getting a run in and hoped Heineman would only have to catch a half an inning.