2011 Canadian Election Thread

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by Ark2

Ouch? I was 5 years old when she was Prime Minister. What do I care?

Holy oversensitive.

The ouch wasn't referring to you. it was for the conservatives running the "Would you vote for this man?" ads which destroyed their entire campaign.

[To Be Quite Honest]

Green Party.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Holy oversensitive.

The ouch wasn't referring to you. it was for the conservatives running the "Would you vote for this man?" ads which destroyed their entire campaign.

She was screwed well before her campaign started though. I guess I just didn't get what your point was.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Ark2

Nice touch with the drama there...

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Agreed. The operation of an unsanctioned polling station that violates election law in numerous ways certainly is something that you'd expect only in another country... or, well, Quebec.

You guys really are unbelieveable. A guy tries to grab a ballot box where people are casting what they assume are legitimate ballots (and for all we know are 100% in support of Stephen Harper) and you take issue with my saying it sounds like something that would happen in another country?

I'm virtually 100% sure that Stephen Harper would have no problem on how I characterized that, nevermind people in his partisan hordes! I didn't make any comment about "the CPC trying to kill democracy" or anything crazy. If you guys think that under any circumstance that someone should be grabbing a ballot box because they are not happy with something to do with a polling station then you live in a different reality than me though.

[crazy_eoj]

Originally Posted by mykalberta

I am trying really hard to think of a company that has lots of cash on hand, hmmm.



http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/AAPL

http://www.businessweek.com/technolo...iting_for.html

You've quoted an american high tech company, of which the article doesn't open for me so it's hard to comment on. But judging just from the title, it seems the author might be commenting on how ABNORMAL it is to be holding cash, and guessing as to who Apple might be buying (IE: reinvesting in). Hi-tech is a very abnormal industry.

EDIT: The article just opened now, and it was as I had guessed, speculation that Apple has been so successful that it is time to distribute that cash out to investors as a special dividend or reinvest in the stock price.

When it uses that cash it’s usually for only two things: Buying small companies and locking up supplies of components. Apple has been a little more acquisitive in recent months. Apple recently bought the Web music service Lala, the wireless advertising concern Quattro Wireless, and location software company PlaceBase. These are textbook examples of the kind of acquisitions that Apple likes to do: Small companies run by smart people.

And that cash pile continues to serve as a strategic hedge for buying needed components that tend to suffer from occasional shortages. For instance, Apple spent $500 million each for long-term supply agreements on LCD display panels from LG and flash memory from Toshiba. Apple’s large cash pile has served as a crucial strategic hedge against markets for important parts that sometimes run short as supply and demand fluctuates. Apple could reduce its cash considerably and still have plenty of money to hedge against future shortages. And when those shortages occur, Apple is assured of a steady supply. That’s good thinking. ....The time has clearly come for Apple and its board of directors to take a long hard look at its cash position consider doing something more than just “preserving” it. Technically that money belongs to Apple’s shareholders, who could certainly find better things to do with it were it returned to them in the form of a stock buyback or special dividend.

However, I do know that Apple generally invests over 15 billion dollars a year in research and innovation. They are thought of as one of the premier technology companies in the world. Increase their tax rate and you can just chop off the amount they invest into their products, which impacts their product development, which impacts their sales, and the number of jobs...etc..

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by Slava

You guys really are unbelieveable. A guy tries to grab a ballot box where people are casting what they assume are legitimate ballots (and for all we know are 100% in support of Stephen Harper) and you take issue with my saying it sounds like something that would happen in another country?

As I conceded in an earlier post, If I misunderstood your statement, then the mistake was mine. Still though, I can't help but think it was an odd statement on you part. Had the story read like:

"Man murders his daughter after discovering that she was a lesbian." Then yeah, I would agree. That sounds like something that would happen in another country, and several of these countries pop into mind.

On the other hand, when the story reads like:

"Man grabs ballot box in an attempt to stop an illegal polling station." I can't really say that any other countries pop into mind where I think this could also occur. Sure, I guess it could happen in the US, but when someone buys a Quarter Pounder with cheese, my initial reaction isn't to say "sounds like something you could order in another country."

Never-the-less, if I misconstrued the point that you were trying to get across, then I apologize.

[Bertuzzied]

Anti Harper site has 2 million hits since Wednesday.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/de...562/story.html

I miss the voteoutanders website!

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by WilsonFourTwo

I should probably take the "Polling Station" sign off my bedroom door then. Don't wanna get in trouble with the Feds.

Thats cause you should have labeled it as a poleing station.

[zuluking]

Originally Posted by Slava

You guys really are unbelieveable. A guy tries to grab a ballot box where people are casting what they assume are legitimate ballots (and for all we know are 100% in support of Stephen Harper) and you take issue with my saying it sounds like something that would happen in another country?

I'm virtually 100% sure that Stephen Harper would have no problem on how I characterized that, nevermind people in his partisan hordes! I didn't make any comment about "the CPC trying to kill democracy" or anything crazy. If you guys think that under any circumstance that someone should be grabbing a ballot box because they are not happy with something to do with a polling station then you live in a different reality than me though.

Typically, a story comes out with very little facts to determine what went on and someone immediately compares Canada to a banana republic.

[old-fart]

Originally Posted by zuluking

Typically, a story comes out with very little facts to determine what went on and someone immediately compares Canada to a banana republic.

Exactly. More recent reports are suggesting that no one attempted to grab any ballot box at all. Much worse though is that the official scrutineer from one party was excluded from the process, and there were partisan posters/documentation in direct view of the polling station - both in direct violation of Election Canada rules. Also, there is significant confusion as to if this was actually a sanctioned polling station or not.

Looks to like the headline should read "Liberal friends try to rig illegal polling station and get caught in the act".

[Knut]

Spin it either way you want... it was probably just a group of students without proper knowledge of Election Canada rules.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by old-fart

Looks to like the headline should read "Liberal friends try to rig illegal polling station and get caught in the act".

Sounds like something that would happen in another country

[old-fart]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Anti Harper site has 2 million hits since Wednesday.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/de...562/story.html

I miss the voteoutanders website!

Interesting that this particular site is being hosted out of the US. Additionally, another site by an extreme leftwing American org, the AVAAZ, is attempting to influence the Canadian election. Can you imagine the uproar from the mainstream media if the Tea Party put up a website attempting to influence an election in another country?

Me thinks the Liberals are getting extremely desperate.

[old-fart]

Originally Posted by Hesla

Spin it either way you want... it was probably just a group of students without proper knowledge of Election Canada rules.

Doesn't seem to be stopped Iffy from suggesting that this is another attack on democracy by Harper and team when really it appears to be an attempt by Iffy to rig an election.

[Knut]

Yeah.... Spinners are going to spin, and politicians are the best spinners. I just wish that people are smart enough to realize what it is.

If if comes out that Iggnatief or his handlers were involved, that becomes a bigger issue. If not, the story will just fade from the spotlight.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by Hesla

Yeah.... Spinners are going to spin, and politicians are the best spinners. I just wish that people are smart enough to realize what it is.

If if comes out that Iggnatief or his handlers were involved, that becomes a bigger issue. If not, the story will just fade from the spotlight.

I'm sure no one in any official capacity was involved. Chances are, these students were probably mostly voting for the NDP anyway, since that's the only party that bothers to campaign on Southern Ontario university campuses.

[Knut]

I remember the University of Waterloo had huge NDP signs up everywhere when there was an election. Poor students want handouts... that is pretty standard. The problem is that students vote in really low numbers.

They did an informal poll at our school which would the conservatives at about 15% support at the university.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by Hesla

I remember the University of Waterloo had huge NDP signs up everywhere when there was an election. Poor students want handouts... that is pretty standard. The problem is that students vote in really low numbers.

Yeah. It's a pretty sweet deal for the NDP though. They get to go on campus, make a bunch of wild and ridiculous promises knowing full well that they will never have to make good on them and that most students there are too stupid to know any better. Unfortunately for them, as you said, voter turnout amongst students is fairly low.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Ark2

Yeah. It's a pretty sweet deal for the NDP though. They get to go on campus, make a bunch of wild and ridiculous promises knowing full well that they will never have to make good on them and that most students there are too stupid to know any better. Unfortunately for them, as you said, voter turnout amongst students is fairly low.

And don't forget university chicks. I'm thinking of getting a pair of mirrored sunglasses and joining the NDP!

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Ark2

Sounds like something that would happen in another country

You're such a drama queen.