Cool down, Calgary drivers.

[Tiger]

Originally Posted by Sliver

I don't even know what that means.

I didn't know CP would leave out the D word in a post, what if I wanted to start a thread about douching

[Jimmy Stang]

Originally Posted by DementedReality

2) the left lane is NOT for speeding. the entire notion comes from the fact that if for some reason your car becomes incapable of going the speed limit, you are supposed to stay in the right lane. this is NOT the same thing as "left lane is for speeding".

I think that the notion of speeding vs. not speeding isn't the issue here. It is passing vs. not passing. Suppose the limit is 100 and you're doing 90, 100, or 110. That's all fine and good and it should be done in the right lane. When cars are merging, move over to the left to make it easier for them to get on and then back over to the right. When you encounter a slower car, pass them on the left and then move back over to the right.

It really isn't about allowing people to speed or playing policeman, it is about driving in the driving lane, and passing in the passing lane. The actual speed that cars are travelling is irrelevant. Enforcing the speed limit isn't the responsibility of anyone but the police. A speeder is going to speed whether they are allowed to pass safely on the left or dangerously on the right. I'd rather see them pulled over by a cop at the next overpass than have people weaving all over the place and passing on the right.

Edit: And I realize that you said that you would move over the right to get away from any potential danger, so don't take this as being directed to you specifically.

[4X4]

I don't know what's more frustrating, actually being held up by some slowpoke on the road, or reading all the sanctimonious pricks on the internet claiming it's not the law to be courteous. Why is it any different than walking down an aisle in a store? If there's someone behind you that knows where he's going, but you're browsing the rack, do you force him to wait for you while you meander? I know, it's not THE LAW to move over, it's just the courteous thing to do.

Absolutely incredible what some of you people are saying. Don't get so angry. Slow down. I can go 90 in the left lane if I so please. Sure. You're all correct. I just doubt that most of you people would do that kind of stuff face to face with a person, so why do it in a car? Suddenly everyone gets where they're going and holds open doors, and moves out of the way when someone is walking briskly or pushing a stroller. But no. Not in a car. HOW DARE YOU EXPECT ME TO MOVE OVER FOR YOU. THERE's NO LAW THAT SAYS THAT.

Bunch of pr*cks that don't even realize that it's you that create the road rage, then you tell everyone that bothers to make mention of it to simmer down, like we're on the verge of exploding. Yet you crotchety old cranks are the first ones to complain about all the other little courtesys that are being forgotton by the young people. I think it's ridiculous that we're supposed to somehow accept sh*tty driving from people, yet in the rest of our lives, we're allowed to expect reasonable levels of aptitude. Right. Calm down. Don't get so riled up that some jerkface is texting on his stupid phone and going 40 in a 50. Just accept it. But if the same jerk is operating the till at the convenience store, and he makes you wait 7 seconds for you to pay for your polident, you're gonna be up in arms.

[Tiger]

So say on a highway. Everyone on the right is going 100Km/h and I'm passing them at 120km/h and you come behind me at 130km/h. I'm still one of the faster cars on the road, why should I pull over to the right for you for excessively speeding?

When you get into Jerkface texting that a whole other situation that doesn't have much to do with this. Texters well driving are Jerkfaces.

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by Tiger

I didn't know CP would leave out the D word in a post, what if I wanted to start a thread about douching

Douch canoe!

[Reaper]

Originally Posted by Tiger

So say on a highway. Everyone on the right is going 100Km/h and I'm passing them at 120km/h and you come behind me at 130km/h. I'm still one of the faster cars on the road, why should I pull over to the right for you for excessively speeding?

Why? Because you're not the fastest moving vehicle in that lane. Derp derp derp.

Come on, people. This ain't rocket surgery.

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by Tiger

So say on a highway. Everyone on the right is going 100Km/h and I'm passing them at 120km/h and you come behind me at 130km/h. I'm still one of the faster cars on the road, why should I pull over to the right for you for excessively speeding?

When you get into Jerkface texting that a whole other situation that doesn't have much to do with this. Texters well driving are Jerkfaces.

Because it's the safe and courteous thing to do.

[Red Potato Standing By]

Originally Posted by Tiger

So say on a highway. Everyone on the right is going 100Km/h and I'm passing them at 120km/h and you come behind me at 130km/h. I'm still one of the faster cars on the road, why should I pull over to the right for you for excessively speeding?

When you get into Jerkface texting that a whole other situation that doesn't have much to do with this. Texters well driving are Jerkfaces.

What do you gain by not pulling over?

[GreenTeaFrapp]

Originally Posted by Tiger

So say on a highway. Everyone on the right is going 100Km/h and I'm passing them at 120km/h and you come behind me at 130km/h. I'm still one of the faster cars on the road, why should I pull over to the right for you for excessively speeding?

You get over when you can, let the faster car pass and then return to the left lane.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Tiger

I didn't know CP would leave out the D word in a post, what if I wanted to start a thread about douching

Oh lol, I'm an idiot. I honestly didn't know what you meant. It really should do ****** instead of just blanks. Sorry dude.

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by 4X4

I don't know what's more frustrating, actually being held up by some slowpoke on the road, or reading all the sanctimonious pricks on the internet claiming it's not the law to be courteous. Why is it any different than walking down an aisle in a store? If there's someone behind you that knows where he's going, but you're browsing the rack, do you force him to wait for you while you meander? I know, it's not THE LAW to move over, it's just the courteous thing to do.

Absolutely incredible what some of you people are saying. Don't get so angry. Slow down. I can go 90 in the left lane if I so please. Sure. You're all correct. I just doubt that most of you people would do that kind of stuff face to face with a person, so why do it in a car? Suddenly everyone gets where they're going and holds open doors, and moves out of the way when someone is walking briskly or pushing a stroller. But no. Not in a car. HOW DARE YOU EXPECT ME TO MOVE OVER FOR YOU. THERE's NO LAW THAT SAYS THAT.

Bunch of pr*cks that don't even realize that it's you that create the road rage, then you tell everyone that bothers to make mention of it to simmer down, like we're on the verge of exploding. Yet you crotchety old cranks are the first ones to complain about all the other little courtesys that are being forgotton by the young people. I think it's ridiculous that we're supposed to somehow accept sh*tty driving from people, yet in the rest of our lives, we're allowed to expect reasonable levels of aptitude. Right. Calm down. Don't get so riled up that some jerkface is texting on his stupid phone and going 40 in a 50. Just accept it. But if the same jerk is operating the till at the convenience store, and he makes you wait 7 seconds for you to pay for your polident, you're gonna be up in arms.

This is Gold, Jerry, Gold!

If I could use this as my sig I would.

[Jimmy Stang]

Originally Posted by GreenTeaFrapp

You get over when you can, let the faster car pass and then return to the left lane.

Or just stay in the right lane until you need to pass again (which might be what you mean anyway).

[woob]

I generally follow the rule of switching to the right lane when someone who is going faster than me is coming up behind me. However, there are a few scenarios where I do not:

Scenario 1 - If I'm in the left lane, proceeding to pass, passing, or finishing my pass and the guy who is going faster than me decides to sit about a half car length off my bumper until I'm done passing. Yes, you're going faster, yes I can see that, but you don't need to endanger both of us by tailgating me in order to get your point across. I'm passing someone - kindly reduce your speed, keep at a safe distance, and then pass me once I'm done. I won't slow down to move in behind the vehicle I'm trying to pass so you can zoom by me. Nor will I cut in front of the vehicle I have just passed at an unsafe distance so that you can zoom by me.

Scenario 2 - If my turn to the left is coming up shortly. Love this one on the highway. I'm in the left lane as I know my turn is coming up fairly soon and some guy is on my tail because I'm not getting over for him. Same thing - Slow down, keep at a safe distance, and wait until my turn signal comes on and I subsequently go into the left turn lane. This situation can arise when a highway is very busy and I can see that I'll need to get into the left lane a ways before my turn, as I may not have a chance to closer to my turn due to constant passing traffic on the left. Maybe I should start signalling a kilometre away so these wonderful drivers get the point. I suspect they'd still tailgate me though.

Scenario 3 - If I'm in the left lane, behind a slower driver and the guy behind me can't figure out that it's not me driving slow it is the person ahead of me, or ahead of them, etc. Guess what, you tailgating me is not going to make me get over so you can then tailgate the guy who was in front of me, etc. Take a deep breath, realize there are cars in front of me going slower, and wait for the situation to sort itself out. But I guess you'd like me to move over or tailgate the guy in front of me so I can get your wonderful point across for you by endangering myself further.

[Jimmy Stang]

Originally Posted by woob

I generally follow the rule of switching to the right lane when someone who is going faster than me is coming up behind me. However, there are a few scenarios where I do not:

I don't think that any of what you have said here is unreasonable. As long as you're passing a slower vehicle, the guy behind you should (emphasis on "should") be smart enough to realize what's going on and give you a little room and time to finish your pass.

As for left turns on highways, I realize that it is impossible to have interchanges everywhere, but intersections on dual carriageways are scary for a number of reasons. You've got traffic crossing (or potentially not stopping at their stop sign), cars turning left off of a fast highway and then having to cross two lanes of oncoming traffic (like what you've said - and hoping not to get rear-ended), cars slowing to turn right, cars entering the highway without an on-ramp and hardly any room to get up to speed, etc.

There are just so many things that can screw it all up where a secondary road meets a main highway. If there's one thing that scares me a bit on highways it is intersections. All you can do is stay aware of what's going on and what potentially might happen, and then hope that others are being just as aware (good luck!).

[Tiger]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Stang

Or just stay in the right lane until you need to pass again (which might be what you mean anyway).

As I said in my scenario is I'm passing the slow people... If I move over I slow down 20km/h, if the person speeding at 130 they only have to slow down ten. It is actually safest for everyone if the person going 130 slows down 10km/h. And the Safest thing is probably the most courteous thing to do for everyone on the road, as I usually more concerned with what is better for everyone than what is better for the D.Bag. But I know you are in a rush and you are more important than me so I apologize if it doesn't look like I care.

If we are talking about people going less than the speed limit than yes stick to the right... if you are talking about speeding than Shut the F up and don't tell me I'm more in the wrong than you are because I'm only going 10 over and your going faster.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Tiger

As I said in my scenario is I'm passing the slow people... If I move over I slow down 20km/h, if the person speeding at 130 they only have to slow down ten. It is actually safest for everyone if the person going 130 slows down 10km/h. And the Safest thing is probably the most courteous thing to do for everyone on the road, as I usually more concerned with what is better for everyone than what is better for the D.Bag. But I know you are in a rush and you are more important than me so I apologize if it doesn't look like I care.

If we are talking about people going less than the speed limit than yes stick to the right... if you are talking about speeding than Shut the F up and don't tell me I'm more in the wrong than you are.

Yes, but some people are clueless how to pass and I suspect you might be one of them if people are rushing you when you do this.

If you are getting in the left lane way too early to pass, then passing too slow, then waiting too long to get back over to the right, you're going to really tick people off behind you. Even if you're doing just one of the above, you're doing it wrong.

And what's with you guys and your arbitrary line of what is acceptable speeding and what is unacceptable? For one guy in this thread it was 5 km/h. For you it's 30 km/h. It's bizarre.

I usually more concerned with what is better for everyone than what is better for the D.Bag.

Dude, you're the d.bag in your own scenario, so maybe start worrying a little more about how Tiger is driving and a little less about how Sliver is driving.

[Jimmy Stang]

Originally Posted by Tiger

If we are talking about people going less than the speed limit than yes stick to the right... if you are talking about speeding than Shut the F up and don't tell me I'm more in the wrong than you are because I'm only going 10 over and your going faster.

OK snarly. Maybe get a little red light to stick on the top of your car so everyone knows who's in charge.

[SeeBass]

When did this become an age thing?

Does it appear that the older guys think that road courtesy is more important than the younger ones?

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by SeeBass

When did this become an age thing?

Does it appear that the older guys think that road courtesy is more important than the younger ones?

Well we haven't even defined what road courtesy is. Some guys think moving over to the right to help the flow of traffic is courteous. Some guys think driving like a struggler in the left lane -blocking anybody who wants to go over the speed limit is courteous.

[Regorium]

Originally Posted by Tiger

As I said in my scenario is I'm passing the slow people... If I move over I slow down 20km/h, if the person speeding at 130 they only have to slow down ten. It is actually safest for everyone if the person going 130 slows down 10km/h. And the Safest thing is probably the most courteous thing to do for everyone on the road, as I usually more concerned with what is better for everyone than what is better for the D.Bag. But I know you are in a rush and you are more important than me so I apologize if it doesn't look like I care.

If we are talking about people going less than the speed limit than yes stick to the right... if you are talking about speeding than Shut the F up and don't tell me I'm more in the wrong than you are because I'm only going 10 over and your going faster.

See you can't also take the extreme. There WILL be a time where you will have enough room to move over, for the guy going 130 behind you to pass you and you to get back into the left lane. Nobody expects you to pull behind a semi just to appease the 130 guy, but if there is a gap, it is expected you to pull into it so that they can pass.

It really isn't that hard.

Recently drove up to Edmonton going 130 the whole way. There were people going 140-150 behind me, and I would always just pull to the right lane (rapidly gaining on the people doing 110, and possibly slowing a bit myself) to let them pass, then get back into the left. It's just the courteous thing to do.