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The Ditch · 02-26-2010, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Peanut

You went on a huge rant about AAA midget hockey being better. That was pretty demeaning.

http://www.ctvolympics.ca/hockey/new...et+aaa+rangers

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Despite having 48 shots on goal, the Canadian women's hockey team lost to a hot goaltender and a mighty Rangers midget AAA team from Fort Saskatchewan on Tuesday night.
Canada pelted Rangers netminder Taylor Davie with 23 shots in the third period alone, but he deflected 22 of them and held on to beat the Canadian women 5-3.
The loss dropped Canada to 14-8 in their series with boys' midget AAA teams, with four games left on the schedule before the women leave for Vancouver and the 2010 Olympics.

Yeah they're a bit better than AAA midget hockey, 2:1 I guess, though I have no idea how good that AAA team is.

VladtheImpaler · 02-26-2010, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Peanut

Too unbalanced? You went on a huge rant about AAA midget hockey being better. That was pretty demeaning.

But that's a fact, not an opinion. UFA Bisons beat the national women's team handily to the tune of 6-1 every time they play.

EDIT - I stand corrected. Thanks /\ for the info. It's as good as midget.

Cowboy89 · 02-26-2010, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I'm not outraged, just disappointed by their actions. I'm actually more outraged that people think it's acceptable. Obviously their point of view is not of an adult that may have childeren. If your daughter plays hockey and idolizes the team that's not the kind of example you would like our players to convey. Say what you want those pics are not flattering and thanks to their actions all their hard work put in to win this gold medal will always be mentioned secondly to their celebratory actions after. It's not the end of the world, it's just a shame.

What, is drinking beer and smoking cigars 'unladylike'? Why is it okay for Anthony Calvillo to get doused in champagne while smoking a cigar on live national television after the Grey Cup, and not okay for the Canadian women's hockey team? Why are these women poor examples for girls while Anthony Calvillo is a great example for boys? They essentially did the same thing.

soulchoice · 02-26-2010, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by The Ditch

http://www.ctvolympics.ca/hockey/new...et+aaa+rangers

Yeah they're a bit better than AAA midget hockey, 2:1 I guess, though I have no idea how good that AAA team is.

Take these results with a grain of salt, these games are merely a non contact exhibition. As anyone that has played or watches hockey would know, taking contact out of hockey, changes the dynamics of the game completely.

pylon · 02-26-2010, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Peanut

Too unbalanced? You went on a huge rant about AAA midget hockey being better. That was pretty demeaning.

Unfortunately, it is a fact.

I know the delivery of my message was a little sarcastic, however if I was the captain of Team Canada, I would have got my medals gone to the room, and had my celebration. In my opinion you don't gloat and parade around when you are the favorite, it shows little tact. When you are the top team in any sport, in a sense you are the face of the sport, and you should handle that with dignity and class. World class athletes drinking and smoking cigars on their field of play, in my opinion is neither dignified nor classy.

pylon · 02-26-2010, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by The Ditch

http://www.ctvolympics.ca/hockey/new...et+aaa+rangers

Yeah they're a bit better than AAA midget hockey, 2:1 I guess, though I have no idea how good that AAA team is.

Let them hit, then see what the result is.

Peanut · 02-26-2010, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

But that's a fact, not an opinion. UFA Bisons beat the national women's team handily to the tune of 6-1 every time they play.

Sorry. Because the UFA Bisons are better means that the Women's Hockey Gold is not a worthy achievement? Read his post. Boils down to saying that their gold medal isn't really worth much because they lose to midget hockey teams.

transplant99 · 02-26-2010, 11:26 AM

So young men are better at playing hockey than young women...so frickin what?

What does that have to do with what the girls accomplished...against girls?

Anything to denigrate them I guess.

jeremywilhelm · 02-26-2010, 11:29 AM

I just wish i was there celebrating with them. Victory and beer can do wonderful things!

MissTeeks · 02-26-2010, 11:31 AM

So what would have happened if the Americans had won this game? Half of the people complaining that the gold doesn't mean anything would be complaining about the fact that the Canadian women's team had lost to the Americans.

Boblobla · 02-26-2010, 11:31 AM

This thread is awesome.

transplant99 · 02-26-2010, 11:32 AM

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In my opinion you don't gloat and parade around when you are the favorite, it shows little tact

LOL...yes SC champions NEVER do that!!!

And i would think one needs an audience to have a "parade". Since there was no one in the stands...that is a false accusation.

Clever_Iggy · 02-26-2010, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by transplant99

So young men are better at playing hockey than young women...so frickin what?

What does that have to do with what the girls accomplished...against girls?

Anything to denigrate them I guess.

Amen. The argument that a AAA boys team beats the Women's National Team is so irrelevant to this thread.

I understand the argument whether Women's Hockey is widespread enough to be an Olympic sport, and frankly is worthy of debate, but even that's irrelevant to whether the team should have celebrated the way the did.

Grip people.

soulchoice · 02-26-2010, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MissTeeks

So what would have happened if the Americans had won this game? Half of the people complaining that the gold doesn't mean anything would be complaining about the fact that the Canadian women's team had lost to the Americans.

To be honest with you, I wouldnt have complained bout them getting silver at all. I am glad the gals won, good for them, however, in reality, it didnt matter to me. The Americans were just as worthy of winning the gold in this tournament, based on the competition.

Flash Walken · 02-26-2010, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I'm not outraged, just disappointed by their actions. I'm actually more outraged that people think it's acceptable. Obviously their point of view is not of an adult that may have childeren. If your daughter plays hockey and idolizes the team that's not the kind of example you would like our players to convey. Say what you want those pics are not flattering and thanks to their actions all their hard work put in to win this gold medal will always be mentioned secondly to their celebratory actions after. It's not the end of the world, it's just a shame.

Then you must keep your daughter locked in a lead box because this 'celebration' was about as tarnished as the first 3 seconds of a Go Daddy.com commercial.

Maybe YOU will always think of this celebration. Says more about you than it does them.

I will think back about yet another GOLD MEDAL for Canada.

Like, really, you think having a beer with your teammates is so unflattering that you wouldn't want your daughter to become an olympic gold medalist?

Yamer · 02-26-2010, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by pylon

Nope, we just aren't so blind with patriotism that we will overlook a classless move that is embarrassing to the country. Guaranteed, if the mens team did this ON THE ICE, there would be National outrage. Even Cherry would flip out.

If this is what we focus on after the win then I am embarrassed.

It wasn't appropriate, but I get the sense that the general hate of women's hockey is bringing a lot of this on.

Honestly, if the Americans had won and did the same thing I wouldn't have been upset at all. It just seems so trivial.

Flash Walken · 02-26-2010, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by pylon

Let them hit, then see what the result is.

I can kick the crap out of my wife too. Go me!

jeremywilhelm · 02-26-2010, 11:41 AM

It IS extremely trivial. Just brings out the sillyness in a few posters that are obviously bored at work today and feel like being "outraged" at absolutely nothing.

getbak · 02-26-2010, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Oh, good lord. What does this have to do with misogyny? It's just the fact that it's an awful, unwatchable event with only 2 competitors. The fact that it's played by women is incidental... Women's bobsleigh or luge is perfectly fine.

They were discussing this on CTV this morning and James Duthie pointed out that since 1999, Women's luge has been absolutely dominated by the Germans. In 2001, the bronze was won by an Austrian. Otherwise, every Women's Luge World Cup medal has been won by a German, going back 12 seasons.

Table Tennis is another example. At the last Olympics, the only medals that weren't won by China were the silver and bronze in the team events because China only had one team.

COGENT · 02-26-2010, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

But with media present to ensure everybody knew about it... Just a whole lot over the top for a 1-game "championship run"... I don't know what it is that turns women so nasty when they travel in packs.

Yeah but they have worked their butts off for at least 4 years to win that 1 game.