Dear Mike Babcock...

[CGY12]

High end or not anybody with experience in that position and that does it marginally well is a better option than Iggy. It's ridiculous to expect anybody to play a role their aren't accustomed to in a short elimination game tournament. It would be like Team USA selecting Conroy and naming him the #1 center LMAO.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by CGY12

High end or not anybody with experience in that position and that does it marginally well is a better option than Iggy. It's ridiculous to expect anybody to play a role their aren't accustomed to in a short elimination game tournament. It would be like Team USA selecting Conroy and naming him the #1 center LMAO.

On an all-star team players have to fit into roles they are not used to. Look at the way this team was built:

Crosby is obviously the #1 C, no matter what, and, based on past experience, the brass thinks Nash and Crosby have chemistry, so your #1 line is

Nash-Crosby-X

For line #2 they just went with existing chemistry, and this line will not be broken up

Marleau-Thornton-Heatley

Now, I personally can't stand Thornton and Heatley, and would never take either one into "battle", but I wasn't picking this team - in any case, this line is set in stone and is the default second line.

Now for the 3rd line they went with existing chemistryas well, so your 3rd line is

X-Getzlaf-Perry

You can't break these up, as Perry is not much without Getzlaf.

Your 4th line is

Morrow-Richards/Toews-X

The way they have this set up is Iginla can only be a 1st liner or a 4th liner, unless they take the bizarre step of putting him on LW.
I really don't like the make-up of this team, but that's neither here nor there. Obviously, all these hockey minds think he fits better on the 4th line, as opposed to the 1st. I think he fits on the 2nd, but the way this team was chosen, there is no spot there...

[CGY12]

What I'm saying is the way they've run this and picked this team they have basically backed themselves into a corner and its now resulting in massive line juggling. Ironically enough the line that has looked the worst (Staal, Getzlaf, Perry) hasn't been touched and is seeing regular minutes. Nothing in the past has shown that Nash and Crosby have this insane amount of chemistry, so why they continue to force this I have no idea. Also I understand the idea of dressing all 13 forwards and 7 dmen but once the elimination round starts we better not be seeing this.

[BandWagoner]

Babcock wants to give the ice time to the other people who scored a hatricks against an AHL (or worse) caliber team...

Oh wait...

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by CGY12

What I'm saying is the way they've run this and picked this team they have basically backed themselves into a corner and its now resulting in massive line juggling. Ironically enough the line that has looked the worst (Staal, Getzlaf, Perry) hasn't been touched and is seeing regular minutes. Nothing in the past has shown that Nash and Crosby have this insane amount of chemistry, so why they continue to force this I have no idea. Also I understand the idea of dressing all 13 forwards and 7 dmen but once the elimination round starts we better not be seeing this.

That's what I am saying as well. But I don't think this is some sort of insult to Iginla - it's just a messy roster.

[CGY12]

I think it is fair to say that in the process they have insulted him and shown no faith in one of the few guys who knows what it takes and how to perform in this olympic tournament.

[sa226]

Is anybody else going to be hoping that the Crosby-Nash-Richards line continues to suck, so that they give Iggy more than 3 measley shifts with them.

I don't really mind Iggy with Morrow and Toews, but they have to give them a regular shift to be effective. Its hard to set a physical tone when the the physical guys get 10 seconds of ice time for every 2 minutes that those sissies Getzlaf and Heatley are getting.

[silentsim]

Originally Posted by sa226

Is anybody else going to be hoping that the Crosby-Nash-Richards line continues to suck, so that they give Iggy more than 3 measley shifts with them.

I don't really mind Iggy with Morrow and Toews, but they have to give them a regular shift to be effective. Its hard to set a physical tone when the the physical guys get 10 seconds of ice time for every 2 minutes that those sissies Getzlaf and Heatley are getting.

No. I hope they tear it up. I could care less how much Iggy plays if Canada dominates.

[Machiavelli]

''We wanted to get Nash back on right wing where he seems to me the most comfortable, and have Jarome (Iginla) play with (Brenden) Morrow and (Jonathan) Teows in a more physical situation,'' said Babcock. ''That's kind of our plan.

''Richards is a bit of a give-and-go player. He's had a lot of success with that, so he could be a good player with Crosby and the big guy (Nash) going to the net.''

http://www.metronews.ca/toronto/spor...rosby-and-nash

[CGY12]

Originally Posted by sa226

Is anybody else going to be hoping that the Crosby-Nash-Richards line continues to suck, so that they give Iggy more than 3 measley shifts with them.

I don't really mind Iggy with Morrow and Toews, but they have to give them a regular shift to be effective. Its hard to set a physical tone when the the physical guys get 10 seconds of ice time for every 2 minutes that those sissies Getzlaf and Heatley are getting.

I agree

[I_H8_Crawford]

Babcock is an idiot because of how he is treating Luongo as well.

Luongo should be the starter going forward - he put up a shutout, and Brodeur gave up 2 goals and barely beat the Swiss.

Not to mention, Luongo in recent history has had more success than Brodeur - Luongo has made it out of the 1st round.

Why isn't Luongo starting?

[questionmotives]

Originally Posted by I_H8_Crawford

Why isn't Luongo starting?

[burning_acid1]

IMO, Babcock has done a poor job coaching thus far

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by I_H8_Crawford

Babcock is an idiot because of how he is treating Luongo as well.

Luongo should be the starter going forward - he put up a shutout, and Brodeur gave up 2 goals and barely beat the Swiss.

Not to mention, Luongo in recent history has had more success than Brodeur - Luongo has made it out of the 1st round.

Why isn't Luongo starting?

Brodeur obviously had the tougher test in the Swiss. Really tough to compare performances in this instance.

Sure, Luongo got out of the first round in a 7 game series to a lesser opponent (St. Louis as opposed to Carolina).

Add that Brodeur is the definition of a 'Money Goaltender' and the decision comes a little easier.

Also, on the subject of Iginla playing a fourth line role. Personally, I like it. Not only does it fit in with the style he will be playing once he gets back to Calgary, but I would rather have Iginla (with hands) playing that role as opposed to Draper (one-dimensional). Not saying that it is necessarily Draper who would fill that role, just that I prefer to have someone with multiple skill sets in that position.

However, the homer in me wants to see Iggy play 15 mins plus and light the lamp every play. The patriot in me wants to see gold dangling just above the Maple Leaf, and I am willing to compromise.

[I_H8_Crawford]

Originally Posted by Yamer

Brodeur obviously had the tougher test in the Swiss. Really tough to compare performances in this instance.

Sure, Luongo got out of the first round in a 7 game series to a lesser opponent (St. Louis as opposed to Carolina).

Add that Brodeur is the definition of a 'Money Goaltender' and the decision comes a little easier.

Yeah I want Brodeur starting too, just showing that the same arguments being made for Iginla deserving more playing time can be applied to Luongo as well, and I have a feeling a lot of the posters "outraged" here with Iginla's "treatment" would mock Canucks fans making that type of case for Luongo.

Regardless of what some people may think, IMO Babcock was the best choice for head coach, his team is undefeated, and people want to hang him because he won't let their favorite player play 25 mins/game like they are used to here in Calgary.

[CGY12]

Originally Posted by I_H8_Crawford

Yeah I want Brodeur starting too, just showing that the same arguments being made for Iginla deserving more playing time can be applied to Luongo as well, and I have a feeling a lot of the posters "outraged" here with Iginla's "treatment" would mock Canucks fans making that type of case for Luongo.

Regardless of what some people may think, IMO Babcock was the best choice for head coach, his team is undefeated, and people want to hang him because he won't let their favorite player play 25 mins/game like they are used to here in Calgary.

Man either you have trouble reading or you just like posting garbage to get a reaction. You should probably read the thread again before writting such nonsense.

+1 for being one of the worst posters on this board.

[I_H8_Crawford]

Originally Posted by CGY12

Man either you have trouble reading or you just like posting garbage to get a reaction. You should probably read the thread again before writting such nonsense.

+1 for being one of the worst posters on this board.

So there aren't posters claiming that Babcock is an idiot, and that he wasn't even the best choice as HC for Canada? Could've fooled me.

I didn't say EVERYONE, I said SOME and last I checked, that is accurate.

One person even suggest Brent Sutter would be a better choice, lol.

Maybe YOU should read this thread, and if you don't like my posts, please feel free to put me on your ignore list, and feel the satisfaction in knowing that I will lose sleep over that fact too.

The hyperbole I was using IMO is correct - people are taking such great offence to it because it is Iginla - the leader of our favorite team, and only Flame on the roster, so of course we all want to see him dominate and lead Canada to gold.

But a much smarter man in Mike Babcock has a different plan for Iginla, and you now have 2 or 3 different threads bitching about how idiotic Babcock is, and how he is "overrated" as a coach, etc etc etc.

It gets a little tiring seeing all these threads about it when Babcock's team is undefeated.

Just like the Phaneuf trade - wait until the end of the season/tourney before passing judgement.

I would trust Babcock coaching Team Canada more than I would trust anyone on this board, even if it is with Iginla playing 6 mins a game.

[Smell My Finger]

Babcock defines hypocrit!

[flip]

Originally Posted by Smell My Finger

Babcock defines hypocrit!

Smell My Finger defines not knowing what hypocrit means!

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Smell My Finger

Babcock defines hypocrit!

...which is worse than just simply not spelling it right.