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Old 02-25-2010, 11:13 AM   #161
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If Jungle Jim wants to rant about Canadians not having winning attitudes maybe it's time for him to stop being part of the problem and look at gold medal totals and not medal totals as a whole.
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Old 02-25-2010, 11:25 AM   #162
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Funny how he neglects to mention that of those medals we're gold medal favorites in 6-8 of them.

Going from 7 gold and 24 medals to ~12 gold and ~24 medals is hardly an embarassment.

Why are the US and us the only countries that judge the Olympics with standings that say 3rd place is just as good as 1st place?
Not finishing third in a big pile of events has been our big problem in the medal count . . . . . or finishing third has been the biggest benefit to the USA as an example.

Relative to our peers, we've been pretty good finishing first and second.

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Old 02-25-2010, 11:31 AM   #163
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Not finishing third in a big pile of events has been our big problem in the medal count . . . . . or finishing third has been the biggest benefit to the USA as an example.

Relative to our peers, we've been pretty good finishing first and second.

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That's the thing. We have a plethora of top 5 finishes - right up there with the USA and Germany in that regard.

At the end of the day, the question is this: Is it really so important that those 4th/5th place finishes jump into the bronze medal position or is winning the gold medal total (and likely by 3-4 golds based on the number of gold medal favorites for each country) good enough?
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Old 02-25-2010, 11:46 AM   #164
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That's the thing. We have a plethora of top 5 finishes - right up there with the USA and Germany in that regard.

At the end of the day, the question is this: Is it really so important that those 4th/5th place finishes jump into the bronze medal position or is winning the gold medal total (and likely by 3-4 golds based on the number of gold medal favorites for each country) good enough?
Well . . . . . . if we had those medals and the Americans didn't, we'd damn well sure think it was important!!!

I'm okay with being that shallow.

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Old 02-25-2010, 11:52 AM   #165
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Well . . . . . . if we had those medals and the Americans didn't, we'd damn well sure think it was important!!!

I'm okay with being that shallow.

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You're definitely right. But the rest of the world and the IOC still says most golds = winners so I'm sticking with that.
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Old 02-25-2010, 11:57 AM   #166
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I have stopped listening to the Fan960 while this buffoon is on the air.

Get over yourself already.
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Wow, I can't say I've ever really listened to JJ before the Olympics, but man, what a moron. He's acting like his way of raising kids should be the right way. Yah, like letting my kids snowboard off the roof of my house is good parenting.
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Old 02-25-2010, 12:11 PM   #168
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Heard his rants yesterday so I stopped listening.

Heard his rants again today...... so I stopped listening again.

Not going to risk it tomorrow.
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Old 02-25-2010, 01:35 PM   #169
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My two cents:

I don't follow 90% of the sports on display at the Winter Olympics in any given year. If Canada brings home gold in hockey, I could honestly care less if we won a medal anywhere else. With that said, we've captured 15 medals so far, are guaranteed medals in women's hockey and curling, SHOULD medal in men's curling and hockey (fingers crossed) plus a few more medals in other events. This should be one of the highest medal totals ever for Canada at the Winter Olympics, plus the load of gold medals we've won having never captured a gold on home ice before, I think we're looking pretty good. Like I said at the start, I don't follow most of the events here, but once every four years I cheer our athletes on simply because they're wearing the Maple Leaf and I figure a 5th place finish amongst the best in the world (especially if we're so woefully underfunded) is pretty damn good.

As another poster pointed out, we have 10% of the United States's population. Based on demographics, we should only have 3 medals right now. So the fact we have the possibility of cracking 20+ medals to the US nabbing 30+ is a pretty good showing IMO. So if you have a problem with how our athletes are performing, STFU and hand in your passport - time to move somewhere else.
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From 3 days ago:

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Old 02-25-2010, 02:00 PM   #171
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Let's all just call a spade a spade here. EVERY red-blooded Canadian cares about Gold in Men's Hockey, and most care about Gold in women's hockey and both mens and womens curling. Personally, I never heard of these other sports athletes except on the day they are competing.

I'll bet 99% of the posters on this site never watch skiing/speedskating when CBC has it on TV. As long as we win Men's Hockey Gold, I don't care about anything else.

Own the Podium is still a joke though....just sayin!!
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Old 02-25-2010, 02:14 PM   #172
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As another poster pointed out, we have 10% of the United States's population. Based on demographics, we should only have 3 medals right now. So the fact we have the possibility of cracking 20+ medals to the US nabbing 30+ is a pretty good showing IMO. So if you have a problem with how our athletes are performing, STFU and hand in your passport - time to move somewhere else.
Canada set the goal that they aren't going to come close to reaching. You have to be held to the goals you set.

Moreover, its clear SOME of our athletes didn't deliver in events they were more than capable of medaling.
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This is one of the reasons why I don't like the Olympics. It is no longer a competetion to see who the best athletes in the world are and a forum to promote international interaction, but instead it is a big dick waving show. If money is what it comes down to, then why do we bother...

I'd much prefer to be the country that finishes "ok" in the Olympics without trying too hard, than be a country that finishes "great" but takes it way too seriously. I think if there is a public outcry for medal standings, then there are some value and priority issues in the country.
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Old 02-25-2010, 02:58 PM   #174
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I'd much prefer to be the country that finishes "ok" in the Olympics without trying too hard, than be a country that finishes "great" but takes it way too seriously. I think if there is a public outcry for medal standings, then there are some value and priority issues in the country.
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Old 02-25-2010, 03:02 PM   #175
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I'll bet you carry this same attitude in your personal and work life. Man, your wife and boss must love your lazy a$$
You missed the point entirely. Sports =/= real life. I think my boss and wife are happy at the fact that I don't put as much emphasis on winning games instead of things that really matter.
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Old 02-25-2010, 03:06 PM   #176
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Canada set the goal that they aren't going to come close to reaching. You have to be held to the goals you set.

Moreover, its clear SOME of our athletes didn't deliver in events they were more than capable of medaling.
And yet by Sunday night, unless there's massive failures all around, Canada will be 1st in the gold medal count and could actually challenge for the most golds won at the Winter Olympics (13 by Norway in Salt Lake) if things really fall into place.

We might be lagging behind in the total medal count, but winning the most golds is definitely not worth brushing aside. Especially considering the major criticism is that Canadian athletes are happy with 2nd place.
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And yet by Sunday night, unless there's massive failures all around, Canada will be 1st in the gold medal count and could actually challenge for the most golds won at the Winter Olympics (13 by Norway in Salt Lake) if things really fall into place.

We might be lagging behind in the total medal count, but winning the most golds is definitely not worth brushing aside. Especially considering the major criticism is that Canadian athletes are happy with 2nd place.
I think the gold medal race is indeed turning into quite a storyline of these games...and should be a source of pride.
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Old 02-25-2010, 03:13 PM   #178
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I'll bet you carry this same attitude in your personal and work life. Man, your wife and boss must love your lazy a$$
I would think a better analogy to real life would be if he devoted all his time and energy to kite flying and neglected his job. If you boil it down, the Olympics really are about bragging rights between each country. I mean, it's not like winning Olympic gold will improve a country's GDP.
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