What can be done? Iran

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by T@T

Wake up.

Without world watchdogs such as the USA and it's allies this world would be in shambles.

Ah yes, the watchdogs. How could I have forgotten the watchdogs? They watch so well. If it wasn't for the watchdogs I'd be speaking Iraqi right now.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by Azure

^^^which would basically trigger WW3.

After Iran is turned to rubble who would fight for them? China, Russia?..doubt it very much. The might of the USA and it's allies is far to strong.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Ah yes, the watchdogs. How could I have forgotten the watchdogs? They watch so well. If it wasn't for the watchdogs I'd be speaking Iraqi right now.

Or dead

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Personally I don't want a country with real links to the lunatic fringe having access to nuclear bomb technology or even nuclear technology.

So does that mean you think action should be taken to disarm the United States? They have a lunatic fringe too, and they are quite powerful. It's only been a year and a half since they had a President who (apparently) believes we are in the middle of The End Times.

They were pretty close to giving the backup goalie spot to a religious nut that is completely disengaged from reality. And dear Sarah still has a shot in 2012. Isn't that a "real link" to the lunatic fringe?

Again, I don't like the idea of Iran having nukes either, but it is hypocritical of us to not "trust them" with nukes while we do trust other far more, umm, "aggressive" countries to have them.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by T@T

Or dead

Yeah, maybe. Though I'm not sure an unfuelled SCUD missile would reach Calgary.

[CaptainCrunch]

Since Russia gains a great deal of hard currency from selling advanced weapons to Iran, while working with Iran on the Bushehr reactor project the relations between Iran and Russia are pretty solid. Russia is also one of Iran's biggest training partners in terms of energy and non energy trade.

China is also a huge energy buyer from Iran, and remember that China also supports Iran's reactor program. while I doubt that they would get directly involved as in shots fired, an American attack on Iran no matter what the situation would cause high tensions between Russia and China on one side and the U.S on the other.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

So does that mean you think action should be taken to disarm the United States? They have a lunatic fringe too, and they are quite powerful. It's only been a year and a half since they had a President who (apparently) believes we are in the middle of The End Times.

They were pretty close to giving the backup goalie spot to a religious nut that is completely disengaged from reality. And dear Sarah still has a shot in 2012. Isn't that a "real link" to the lunatic fringe?

Again, I don't like the idea of Iran having nukes either, but it is hypocritical of us to not "trust them" with nukes while we do trust other far more, umm, "aggressive" countries to have them.

Oh for christ sakes Rouge.

Show me where their lunatic fringe is in power right now and making irrational decisions while making open declarations by the president to exterminate their enemy. George W Bush had access to nukes, and had provocation to use them and yet their still sitting in their silos. Can you honestly tell me that you believe the same to be true with a governmemt that has stated openly and honestly that their goal is to push the jews into the sea and has holocaust denial conferences.


And you and I both know that there's no fricken way that Sarah Palin ever takes power. in that country. And honestly I would trust an idiot like Sarah Palin with nukes far before I would ever trust a lunatic like Aberjalunatic and their revolutionary council.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Show me where their lunatic fringe is in power right now and making irrational decisions while making open declarations by the president to exterminate their enemy.

Well I can't show you that the lunatic fringe is in power right now.

Invading Iran's next door neighbour was obviously an irrational decision, and I'm sure we can come up with plenty of declarations about exterminating the enemy.

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

And you and I both know that there's no fricken way that Sarah Palin ever takes power. in that country. And honestly I would trust an idiot like Sarah Palin with nukes far before I would ever trust a lunatic like Aberjalunatic and their revolutionary council.

I don't know why you'd trust Palin over an idiot like, umm, anyone. She believes the world is going to end in a fiery apocalypse that will begin in the middle east. She prays for this to happen and looks forward to the day that she can watch it all unfold from her perch in another dimension.

True though, that it is unlikely that she'll be taking power, but it was pretty close. It's not like it can't happen.

But bla bla bla. Like I've said a few times, I don't want the crazy Iranians to have nuclear weapons either, but it's still hypocritical of the "western world" to gripe about it. Common sense and history tell us that a place like Iran is a lot more likely to be bombed or invaded by some western power than the other way around.

[amorak]

Part of me wonders why we've become such a limp-wristed society. If this was the good old days, we'd have ourselves a Crusade and go put down our enemy and be done with it.

Ahhh the good old days...

I swear, if anyone takes this as anything but tongue in cheek...

[amorak]

Originally Posted by amorak

Part of me wonders why we've become such a limp-wristed society. If this was the good old days, we'd have ourselves a Crusade and go put down our enemy and be done with it.

Ahhh the good old days...

I swear, if anyone takes this as anything but tongue in cheek...

Ohh, and before anyone overly sensitive jumps on the limp wristed comment, I meant it in the context of a jam (as in not to fire, aka not to take action) not a homosexual. See Wiki.

[Muta]

When Ahmameijhad publicly declares that he wants Israel wiped off the face of the map, and also implies that the US should watch their backs too, all-the-while illegally advancing his nuclear ambitions back home... that's much cause for concern.

Iran wouldn't be in the position they are in today if it wasn't for their leader who appears to be way more of a nutjob than anything the US currently has. Just ask the people of Iran who voiced their 'displeasure' during last years' 'elections'.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Since Russia gains a great deal of hard currency from selling advanced weapons to Iran, while working with Iran on the Bushehr reactor project the relations between Iran and Russia are pretty solid. Russia is also one of Iran's biggest training partners in terms of energy and non energy trade.

China is also a huge energy buyer from Iran, and remember that China also supports Iran's reactor program. while I doubt that they would get directly involved as in shots fired, an American attack on Iran no matter what the situation would cause high tensions between Russia and China on one side and the U.S on the other.

I think I read that China gets around 20% of their oil from Iran, and I don't think they would be happy if that is interfered with....
I think the U.S. and Israel should be careful what they wish for when it comes to Iran.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by amorak

Ohh, and before anyone overly sensitive jumps on the limp wristed comment, I meant it in the context of a jam (as in not to fire, aka not to take action) not a homosexual. See Wiki.

Having to explain yourself like that is limp-wristed in itself....

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Our buddy is back in the news, as many U.N. delegates walk out of the assembly hall during his speech today.

"Some segments within the US government orchestrated the attack," Ahmadinejad told the assembly. He followed with the claim that the attacks were aimed at reversing "the declining American economy and its scripts on the Middle East in order to save the Zionist regime. The majority of the American people, as well as most nations and politicians around the world, agree with this view."

Mark Kornblau, a spokesman for the U.S. Mission to the U.N., said in a statement, "Rather than representing the aspirations and goodwill of the Iranian people, Mr. Ahmadinejad has yet again chosen to spout vile conspiracy theories and anti-Semitic slurs that are as abhorrent and delusional as they are predictable."

Ahmadinejad also continued the attack on capitalism that he began Monday, during an address at the Millennium Global Development Summit. He linked the U.S.-led conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan with wars for colonial expansion in Africa, Latin America and Asia.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/09/...ex.html?hpt=T1

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Our buddy is back in the news, as many U.N. delegates walk out of the assembly hall during his speech today.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/09/...ex.html?hpt=T1

Hahaha oh Mahmoud, you're such a card.

[mikey_the_redneck]

You left a few parts out Kootenay:

"It was said that some 3,000 people were killed on September 11th, for which we are all very saddened," he said. "Yet, up until now in Afghanistan and Iraq, hundreds of thousands of people have been killed, millions wounded and displaced, and the conflict is still going on and expanding."

I've read that more than a million Iraqis have died.......not to mention the phosphorus/depleted uranium weapons used in Fallujah and so on.

"The Iranian president also touched on the recent controversy over a Florida pastor's plans to burn copies of the Quran, the Muslim holy book, by waving copies of a Bible and a Quran as he declared his respect and reverence for both."

The guy is flat out correct about 9/11.

I bet not a single one of the "diplomats" from United States, Britain, Sweden, Australia, Belgium, Uruguay and Spain.................actually read the 9/11 Commission Report.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

You left a few parts out Kootenay:

"It was said that some 3,000 people were killed on September 11th, for which we are all very saddened," he said. "Yet, up until now in Afghanistan and Iraq, hundreds of thousands of people have been killed, millions wounded and displaced, and the conflict is still going on and expanding."

I've read that more than a million Iraqis have died.......not to mention the phosphorus/depleted uranium weapons used in Fallujah and so on.

"The Iranian president also touched on the recent controversy over a Florida pastor's plans to burn copies of the Quran, the Muslim holy book, by waving copies of a Bible and a Quran as he declared his respect and reverence for both."

The guy is flat out correct about 9/11.

I bet not a single one of the "diplomats" from United States, Britain, Sweden, Australia, Belgium, Uruguay and Spain.................actually read the 9/11 Commission Report.

Like all fascists he manipulates people and make valid points about suffering to come to awful conclusions. In this case the conclusion is that 9/11 was a zionist/US plot.

I'm also pretty sure that most of these "diplomats" as you call them know a lot more about the 911 commission report than you do.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by blankall

Like all fascists he manipulates people and make valid points about suffering to come to awful conclusions. In this case the conclusion is that 9/11 was a zionist/US plot.

I'm also pretty sure that most of these "diplomats" as you call them know a lot more about the 911 commission report than you do.

Then they would know that the Commission Report full of holes like swiss cheese.

People will believe anything the American government and their media says. It's sad. I guess Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction taught us nothing.

How come America isn't banging the war drums toward North Korea? Their leaders are far more crazy than Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is and they already have nukes......Oh right I forgot, North Korea doesn't have all those resources to exploit and a war with them wouldn't be serving the interest of Israel.

Don't confuse fascism with hardcore religious beliefs. And frankly, those issues are none of America's business.
Israel ...the land of hypocrites. I would say they are doing a fine job at wiping Palestinians off the map.

[SeeBass]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Since Russia gains a great deal of hard currency from selling advanced weapons to Iran, while working with Iran on the Bushehr reactor project the relations between Iran and Russia are pretty solid. Russia is also one of Iran's biggest training partners in terms of energy and non energy trade.

China is also a huge energy buyer from Iran, and remember that China also supports Iran's reactor program. while I doubt that they would get directly involved as in shots fired, an American attack on Iran no matter what the situation would cause high tensions between Russia and China on one side and the U.S on the other.

As this came up today.

Russian did not sell high tech missiles (S-300) today to the Iranians.

Its a start

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Israel ...the land of hypocrites. I would say they are doing a fine job at wiping Palestinians off the map.

Oh really, so tell us how many Palestinians have been killed in the last twenty years? Your hateful rants are simply lame.