Jim Carrey Posts on Vaccines at Huff Post

[Tower]

Well beyond Vaccine and health...

The first and for most is nutrition and your ability to fight of disease. If your body is firing on all cylinders, if it is running 110 percent. Most illness (if not all) will bounce off you.

It is NOT a conspiracy that Pharmaceutical companies are about money. They are a business. They make money on you being sick. If you think that is total BS then I'm sorry for you. If I never have to visit a doctor again I'd say that's pretty sweet!

I've suffered from a common skin rash (excema) from the day I was born. Now it's only been 4 days since I started looking at my nutrition and intake and this has done more for me than ANY doctor. I used to make a fist and it would crack my fingers open. Now every thing is healing up. My girlfriend has been watching closely and is as well in fact amazed at the turn around time. I got this information about Curing my skin DISease for free. Didn't cost me a dime.

Now this in no way a scientific model, but I know how my skin has felt over my whole life. It's finally feeling great!

But believe Pharmaceutical... A cure for cancer is 6 months away.... It has been for 40 years.

Your sources for vaccination also come from the same system as the cancer research - pharmaceutical.

Take control of your health by proper nutrition and maybe you'll see a change as well.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Tower

It is NOT a conspiracy that Pharmaceutical companies are about money. They are a business. They make money on you being sick.

Not sure why this argument keeps being made. CAM (complimentary/alternative medicine) is not giving away their snake-oils. They are a business. A fraudulent, unregulated business.

[photon]

Well of course proper nutrition will result in a healthier body.

So there you have it, one person's skin condition has improved because of a change in diet, therefore all disease (including cancer) can be defeated by good nutrition and the drug companies make money so their products must all be fake.

Wow.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by photon

http://www.skepdic.com/skeptimedia/skeptimedia44.html

More on Oprah

The thing about Dr. Phil -- I don't know if he promotes craziness sometimes or not, but any time I've seen the guy on TV, he appears to be making money and getting famous by dispensing simple "common sense".

Guest: "Dr.Phil, I have 50 thousand dollars in credit card debt and I can't stop buying new shoes. What should I do?"

Dr. Phil: "You've got to cut up those credit cards and stop buying shoes!"

Audience: "Applause"

That article talks about how people don't think critically, but I'm not sure some of them think at all. There appear to be millions of people out there who need to be told (or at least watch someone be toldby Dr.Phil) simple things like they have to stop cheating on their wife if they want to save their marriage, or that they have to stop taking heroin if they want to stay alive.

This dizzy Jenny McCarthy will have the same audience of willing stooges. I don't think she'll be doling out much common sense though.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Tower

It is NOT a conspiracy that Pharmaceutical companies are about money. They are a business.

Yes, they are a business, and as such, they have a reputation to protect.

Can you think of anything that might be worse for your company's reputation than being busted intentionally poisoning babies? Not just poisoning a couple babies, but almost all the babies in the country (and trying to poison the ones they don't get)? Do you think anyone would set themselves up for that kind of a "fall", if all they are doing is looking to make money? The money dries up after you are found to be poisoning babies, I'm sure of that.

And what moneygrubber would pick the baby poisoning racket if he was truly only interested in profit? I mean there has to be an easier way to make money than by poisoning babies. In fact, that's probably about the hardest way to make money I can think of.

It has been pointed out a few times but conveniently ignored, Pharmaceutical Company X would make a lot more money off a boy with polio than they'll receive by selling a cheap vaccine that ensures that he never gets polio in the first place.

[MaDMaN_26]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

What seems wrong to me is people making these decisions and forming opinions on these matters based on nothing more than what seems wrong to them.

Chemotherapy seems wrong to me.The iron lung seems wrong to me. While we're at it, manned flight, the large hadron collider and my wireless modem seem wrong to me.

But I'm no expert. I'm not a doctor, and I don't play a Pet Detective on TV.

There are experts though, doctors and chemists and epidemiologists and all sorts of people who know about this stuff, and they don't base it on what seems wrong to them. The whole "science" thing is behind it. They didn't just make it up out of thin air.

You "seem" like a tool. Iowa tells me the only reason we have more autism is because we can detect it better and pulling that "fact" out of thin air is ok. I say that I don't think it’s accurate and that I don't believe it (and yes I used "Seems Wrong" to express that) and you jump down my throat about forming opinions with no facts. My opinion that I formed was I don't believe everything some random dude on a forum posts. I don’t think Autism is only more prevalent because we have better diagnostics and frankly there will never be a way to prove it either way. Suffice it to say either of us could be wrong. But you saying I'm not allowed to have an opinion because it can’t be scientifically proven either way is asinine.

[RougeUnderoos]

Ha.

Talk about missing the point.

[troutman]

Acupuncture (two different interpretations of the same study):

Acupuncture, even simulated form, beats usual care for low back pain: study
http://chealth.canoe.ca/channel_heal...&channel_id=44

The National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine (NCCAM), part of the U.S. National Institutes of Health, funded the SPINE trial.

Acupuncture Does Not Work for Back Pain
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=492

The authors recognize that the results of their study are consistent with placebo or nonspecific effects, without the need to invoke any specific effects from acupuncture itself. But I would say that this study, combined with other studies, does not leave the question “unclear” - it makes is very clear that there are no specific effects from acupuncture, and any effects are either due to placebo effects or are a response to the therapeutic ritual surrounding the delivery of acupuncture.

[Tower]

Originally Posted by photon

Well of course proper nutrition will result in a healthier body.

So there you have it, one person's skin condition has improved because of a change in diet, therefore all disease (including cancer) can be defeated by good nutrition and the drug companies make money so their products must all be fake.

Wow.

Or something as simple as a rash has been made so complex by Western medicine... Now with old technology new again - it's made simple. And to your other points. Yes. Death rates have not DECREASED. They even changed the survival rate to living 5years cancer free to a success. Even if they die soon after. Give the people hope so we can get rich.

[Tower]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Yes, they are a business, and as such, they have a reputation to protect.

Can you think of anything that might be worse for your company's reputation than being busted intentionally poisoning babies? Not just poisoning a couple babies, but almost all the babies in the country (and trying to poison the ones they don't get)? Do you think anyone would set themselves up for that kind of a "fall", if all they are doing is looking to make money? The money dries up after you are found to be poisoning babies, I'm sure of that.

And what moneygrubber would pick the baby poisoning racket if he was truly only interested in profit? I mean there has to be an easier way to make money than by poisoning babies. In fact, that's probably about the hardest way to make money I can think of.

It has been pointed out a few times but conveniently ignored, Pharmaceutical Company X would make a lot more money off a boy with polio than they'll receive by selling a cheap vaccine that ensures that he never gets polio in the first place.

Keep them sick so they keep coming back.
Keep the cars using gas so they keep coming back.

Both products manufactures are leaders in their field. Great business!

If only alternatives to gas were more ready.... But nobody advocates for that!

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by photon

Well of course proper nutrition will result in a healthier body.

So there you have it, one person's skin condition has improved because of a change in diet, therefore all disease (including cancer) can be defeated by good nutrition and the drug companies make money so their products must all be fake.

Wow.

I find that reading Towers posts are a excellent exercise in pointing out logical fallacies. It's a good way to brush up on that skill.

[Tower]

Originally Posted by Burninator

I find that reading Towers posts are a excellent exercise in pointing out logical fallacies. It's a good way to brush up on that skill.

Most people, no matter how stubborn they are, discover that the natural healing works best after they find out they have 1 year to live by using chemo or 3 months if they don't... They go and seek out because they are desperate, and feel they have been cheated by western medicine. They find their answer... http://www.phoenixtears.ca/

Hopefully your not that 1 in 3 chance.... Not that I'm the one creating fear with those odds.

Also watch "The Beautiful Truth". It's great that people are waking up!!!

[Tower]

Originally Posted by troutman

Not sure why this argument keeps being made. CAM (complimentary/alternative medicine) is not giving away their snake-oils. They are a business. A fraudulent, unregulated business.

Not for profit.... But close to giving away.

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[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Tower

Keep them sick so they keep coming back.

So the "medical establishment" is engaged in a plot to poison every baby that is born in North America and they are doing it to make money. That's what you are saying.

Do you believe in the Devil? Do you think he's behind this? Because that's the most sensible rationalization for what you are suggesting.

If it ain't him, it is tens of thousands of people acting together to poison all the babies.

[ResAlien]

Well crap. Tower is right. I've spoken with my girlfriend who's starting Med School to be an orthopedic surgeon, and she confirms this. It is a conspiracy. She showed me these so called "medical books" she is supposed to study, and they don't even begin to scratch the surface of how to cure people, but they do show many, many, many ways to get obscenely rich and keep everyone sick forever. My god how could I have been so naive. She has told me about how you must hate babies. All babies.

I just, I can't fathom how you believe this stuff. Even a simple application of Occam's razor to your thinking should make you do a facepalm so hard you lose a few teeth.

[Tower]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

So the "medical establishment" is engaged in a plot to poison every baby that is born in North America and they are doing it to make money. That's what you are saying.

Do you believe in the Devil? Do you think he's behind this? Because that's the most sensible rationalization for what you are suggesting.

If it ain't him, it is tens of thousands of people acting together to poison all the babies.

Correction.

Poison/dis-ease/weaken immune response to the young/middle aged/old.

The devil lives in al of us. That's that little thing that sits on your shoulder telling you to do things... BAAAAAD things. I saw him on Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back... Nasty little devils almost made him bring out his cucumber.

Greedy and power hungry people do it. Has nothing to do with religion.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Tower

The first and for most is nutrition and your ability to fight of disease. If your body is firing on all cylinders, if it is running 110 percent. Most illness (if not all) will bounce off you.

Women overall eat better than men.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8047321.stm

And old people overall eat better than young people.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor...15274032?f=rss

[photon]

You can add psychic powers to the list of things being suppressed by western medicine, since Tower clearly can read the minds of the tens of thousands of scientists and researchers to see the greed in their hearts.

[Tower]

Originally Posted by Bagor

Women overall eat better than men.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8047321.stm

Unfortunately they are looking at how they could sell this instead of the real point of nutrition, education, and start when your kids are young.

Hey not all Western Medicine is bad. If one is in a car accident they sure can put you back together. But cure me of disease!!! Now we are talking a lifetime achievement award!!! Keep taking this med for life!

[Tower]

Originally Posted by photon

You can add psychic powers to the list of things being suppressed by western medicine, since Tower clearly can read the minds of the tens of thousands of scientists and researchers to see the greed in their hearts.

Or you can talk to my ex cousin in-law who gets paid 5 million a year to create new and wonderful drugs that do nothing to make you better but do everything to rid you of your signs and symptoms. But then you'd have to take something else for the side effects.... How about a vaccine because you've now been weakened so much that you could catch something! Some catch a bad prescription and die... More die from that than car accidents. A doctors first duty is "Do no harm". They are either ignorant or negligent, and both are subject to dismissal, but they make money so we can keep em in for a good reason.