What are your thoughts on smoking pot for recreation?

[4X4]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

Yea, you got me. My post was motivated by the fact I don't have $50 to buy enough pot to support my daily habit.

I was talking about both the price and the volume. You can come back here and post whatever you want. A guy smoking a quarter ounce of weed - to himself - consistently day in and day out is an exaggeration. The "I know a guy who smokes so much dope" bit is no different than the "My dad can beat up your dad" bit.

Alright, guy. I'll add this post only because I'm a bit wired and feel like talking... How can you be so convinced that nobody consumes amounts of stuff that you deem excessive? Are you that convinced that the world revolves around you? Are you so incredulous that there are people that smoke joints at the same frequency that people smoke cigs? If so, you really need to wake up. Trust me, it happens. Probably someone you have met.

Here you go: I'll put it in alcohol terms... Do you think that there are people out there that can consume a whole bottle over the course of a day? There are. We call them "alcoholics". 26 shots. One bottle of booze. People do it. A quarter of weed? Let's see... Haven't burned the blunts in awhile, but IIRC, an eighth would roll around 7-10 joints. A quarter would be double that. We're talking 14-20 joints per day for the "guy I know" (truth is, he's a good friend and I feel bad for referring to him as a loser in my last post)
Go ahead and not believe it, but don't tell me I'm exaggerating. I only exaggerate when I lose a good trout.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by 4X4

Alright, guy. I'll add this post only because I'm a bit wired and feel like talking... How can you be so convinced that nobody consumes amounts of stuff that you deem excessive? Are you that convinced that the world revolves around you? Are you so incredulous that there are people that smoke joints at the same frequency that people smoke cigs? If so, you really need to wake up. Trust me, it happens. Probably someone you have met.

Here you go: I'll put it in alcohol terms... Do you think that there are people out there that can consume a whole bottle over the course of a day? There are. We call them "alcoholics". 26 shots. One bottle of booze. People do it. A quarter of weed? Let's see... Haven't burned the blunts in awhile, but IIRC, an eighth would roll around 7-10 joints. A quarter would be double that. We're talking 14-20 joints per day for the "guy I know" (truth is, he's a good friend and I feel bad for referring to him as a loser in my last post)
Go ahead and not believe it, but don't tell me I'm exaggerating. I only exaggerate when I lose a good trout.

You first said "Pffft, I know a guy who smokes a quarter ounce of weed a day".

I said you're exaggerating.

I've smoked a lot of dope in my time, and seen different levels of smokers from all walks of life. From touring musicians, to burnouts on Deadman's Island to bikers.

Telling me you know a guy who smokes seven grams a day, daily, is a load of crap.

Turning that around and trying to tell me it's possible isn't the same thing. I'm sure there are island people who smoke crappy forest grown shrub like it's tobacco.

In Canada, to be going through that much dope daily (for one person) is crazy.

The person either has so much time he's unemployed (which further shows how it's not feasible) or he makes his living selling drugs (which unless he's in charge of a MASSIVE plant growing operation, also isn't feasible).

I realize you felt cool to throw out a "Pfffft I know a guy who smokes that much"

but I'll say it again. If you're even a casual user, you know how much a quarter ounce is, and how ridiculous it would be to go though that much pot for one person on a daily basis.

Hot air.

[GoJetsGo]

FYI a gram will roll up three very healthy size joints. There are 7 grams in a quarter ounce. that's 20+ spliffs a day.

Even if you're getting a good deal on a quarter, you're paying $50.

So your 'good friend' smokes a joint every 45 mins he's awake every day of his life to the tune of $350 a week $1200+ per month? That's more than rent.

And he has the means of employment to facilitate that kind of costly habit where the employer both condones his 'smoke breaks' every 45 mins and his constant state of stoned-ness?

Again, BS.

But it sounds impressive.

[Shawnski]

Pfft..

GoJetsGo, a quarter a day was nothing for me. And that IS on average. Yes, others came by with their own too.

I mean PERSONAL average.

And it damn near ruined me. Glad I grew up.

It ain't the cost. Hell, on top of the pot load, I had a coke bill that at times would choke Fotze.

I did that. I lived that. For years.

Pot lead to hash, and oil, and lead to mushrooms (no, pot isn't a gateway drug...)

Then some LSD, but mainly coke.

Guess what, yes it happens, and unless you do one of two things you are doomed.
1) Dabble in pot recreationally and HOPE that your other life experiences don't lead to more regular use
2) Avoid it completely.

Option two is my recommendation.

I am 42 years old now. If I could go back to that moment in time in my early teens when I said "OK" to a toke, I would do it in a heart beat.

Nothing good of long lasting value ever came out of THAT desision. Only bad. I wasted the scholarship I earned for my intelect, And I failed to go after the one I could have done for my athletics.

Until I realized pot was useless (and hash, oil, mushrooms, code, etc) I failed in life; albeit in my expectations.

Even after learning from that, when push came to shove and over a 6 year span both my parents died, the time I spent with them took me out of many of the benefits that the growth that Calgary experienced.

I admit, I made a HUGE mistake in life.

I started smoking pot.

I regret that decision with every fibre in my body now.

[4X4]

Hey! Now I know two guys that can put back a quarter a day!!

Beat it, Jets. You misunderstand the point of my argument. You can't believe that people do it and I'm saying that I know people who do. Telling me I'm wrong is like telling me that I don't have fingers to type this damn post. I'm pretty sure I do.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by 4X4

Hey! Now I know two guys that can put back a quarter a day!!

Beat it, Jets. You misunderstand the point of my argument. You can't believe that people do it and I'm saying that I know people who do. Telling me I'm wrong is like telling me that I don't have fingers to type this damn post. I'm pretty sure I do.

You said you know ONE person who does. A 'good friend' (who you called a loser).

I'll reiterate that I don't believe you and think you're exaggerating.

Once again, a $1200/month 20+ joint (to himself) a day habit?

I once caught a fish thiiiiisssss big.

Seriously, if that's true be a friend and help the guy out. That's beyond problematic.

I'll leave it at that. This thread and the company it's attracting is apparently way to hard core for a casual user like me.

[4X4]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

You said you know ONE person who does. A 'good friend' (who you called a loser).

I'll reiterate that I don't believe you and think you're exaggerating.

Once again, a $1200/month 20+ joint (to himself) a day habit?

I once caught a fish thiiiiisssss big.

Seriously, if that's true be a friend and help the guy out. That's beyond problematic.

I'll leave it at that. This thread and the company it's attracting is apparently way to hard core for a casual user like me.

You're officially on my sh1t list. You misspelled 'too' and you run in circles. A few posts ago you were annoyed or offended that I brought up the cost of the dope. Now you're back on about the cost.

As for "people", if you read the posts preceding the idiocy that I quoted, you'll notice that another poster told you that he had a period in life where the amounts of weed we're talking about were not only consumed, but consumed daily.
Since I know him, I have upped "a guy I know" to "people".
I typed this very slowly. Hope you can keep up.

[4X4]

I kinda want to kick my own ass for fighting this battle. As if I care whether some f'n stranger believes that someone smokes alot of dope.

[GoJetsGo]

You're the one who said you wanted to talk about it. I was only happy to oblige.

And seriously, jumping on a typo? If that doesn't scream a lack of an argument, I don't know what does.

I pointed out the money aspect, because $1200 a month is an EXPENSIVE habit for a burn-out.

Instead of addressing it, you jump into insult mode.

A simple explanation as to how the guy affords to spend more money on dope than he does on rent, despite the fact he needs to be actively smoking the drug every 45 mins of a work day (to live up to your exaggeration) would go a long way.

But feel free to jump on typos and throw out a few more insults. That combined with a few more posts will really underline how much you don't care what a stranger thinks about your friend's outrageous habit.

[4X4]

Volleying with you is like taking my morning dump. I don't really want to do it, but I do it anyway.

Are you feeling insulted? Here's a (slightly used) tissue.

Rent? What world do you live in? $1200? LOL. Dude's entertainment budget includes a grand+ for weed and you want to know how he affords it? Ask his accountant. I know that I waste the same amount or more on dumb stuff like gas for 4x4ing and fishing lures and beer. It's a matter of priorities.

As for the typo, blatant misuse of the word to/too just annoys me. Your pissing me off. (you see, it's funny because that's the wrong your)

[4X4]

I once hit a guy in the face with a snowball. It was Teh_Funny. Don't believe me? Ask him. Buono notte, Jets.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by 4X4

Volleying with you is like taking my morning dump. I don't really want to do it, but I do it anyway.

Are you feeling insulted? Here's a (slightly used) tissue.

Rent? What world do you live in? $1200? LOL. Dude's entertainment budget includes a grand+ for weed and you want to know how he affords it? Ask his accountant. I know that I waste the same amount or more on dumb stuff like gas for 4x4ing and fishing lures and beer. It's a matter of priorities.

As for the typo, blatant misuse of the word to/too just annoys me. Your pissing me off. (you see, it's funny because that's the wrong your)

Not feeling the least bit insulted, it's just the sign of a weak individual / argument to resort to insults / picking out typos when they have nothing left to say.

The fact that you`re admittedly angry and compelled to continue to try and convince me of something you don`t care about really sums it up.

Like I said, the guy can afford to drop a grand a month on weed working a job that allows him to duck out and get high every forty minutes and work in a constant state of intoxication.

Sounds just about as realistic as smoking 7 grams a day, every day.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

Not feeling the least bit insulted, it's just the sign of a weak individual / argument to resort to insults / picking out typos when they have nothing left to say.

The fact that you`re admittedly angry and compelled to continue to try and convince me of something you don`t care about really sums it up.

Like I said, the guy can afford to drop a grand a month on weed working a job that allows him to duck out and get high every forty minutes and work in a constant state of intoxication.

Sounds just about as realistic as smoking 7 grams a day, every day.

I don't know, my buddy used to smoke close to that much weed. Not for a long period of time, but there was definitly a good year or so that he was able to keep that up.

Here's the thing, you and I don't know what 4x4's buddy does for a living, but you keep bringing up the money thing for some reason. There are a lot of people in this world that have enough money to throw $3000 off a bridge every week without blinking an eye, so if you're going to keep arguing with him about the money, then you might as well just leave the thread, because that isn't going to go anywhere.

So that just leaves the weed consumption. You believe that's an eggageration, while 4x4, Shanwski, myself, and others believe it is within reach if the person is addicted enough and if they have the funds to do so.

So if you honestly believe 4x4 said that to "be cool" then you should read some of his posts, and you'd find he's not on here to "be cool", but just to shoot the s*it like most of us.

/drunken rant(s are fun)

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by flameswin

Here's the thing, you and I don't know what 4x4's buddy does for a living, but you keep bringing up the money thing for some reason. There are a lot of people in this world that have enough money to throw $3000 off a bridge every week without blinking an eye,

And unless his friend is a major recording artist, that's exactly what I'm getting at.

People that have that kind of disposable income don't get it by smoking weed every 40 minutes.

Someone with that kind of income doesn't make a ton of money by being a perpetual burnout who has to get high a minimum of eight times throughout a work day.

That's just another reason (and a big one) as to why it isn't feasible.

And shooting the sh*t is really why this is still being discussed. This is admittedly amusing.

[RT14]

I can't believe I'm responding to what has become quite a rediculous argument but GoJetsGo, you are really close minded if you can't imagine someone having the funds or a job that would allow that kind of scenario.

I have a number of good friends working in the oil patch in Alberta doing different things from electricians to rig pigs. Trust me, when a journeyman electrician working out in the field has to drive 2 hours to work everyday and works 2 - 8 hourse throughout the day at his own pace, there is PLENTY of time to fit in a doob every 45 minutes if that's what you've got it worked out to and get paid PLENTY of cash to have money to "burn". You think everyone works in an office where they would have to excuse themselves from work everytime they need a smoke? There's a ton of jobs out there (especially in Alberta) where guys would have the time and funds to make that feasible.

Your argument is totally bunk. The only thing you can argue is if it's possible to smoke that much everyday and I can say for a fact that I know at least one person who does or used to, probably more than one if I really think about the guys I've known in my day.

[Gozer]

[kermitology]

And this thread has been successfully derailed, killed, reborn and killed again.

[Boblobla]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

And unless his friend is a major recording artist, that's exactly what I'm getting at.

People that have that kind of disposable income don't get it by smoking weed every 40 minutes.

UGH, I am going to weigh in on this as well. I also used to work with someone who easily smoked a quarter a day. It also didn't cost him 1200 bucks a week. Want to know how? He bought by the pound, had a pretty decent client list, smoked 1/2 and sold 1/2 and just broke even.

The job he had was a slack landscaping job that started at 6AM, and he showed up ripped. He would smoke joints like cigs during that day and ALWAYS brought a cannon to smoke at lunch.

While I don't agree with this lifestyle choice, and I am not sure if he is still maintaining this pace, he easily smoked a quarter a day.

[Boblobla]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

Someone with that kind of income doesn't make a ton of money by being a perpetual burnout who has to get high a minimum of eight times throughout a work day.

2 of the smartest people I know smoked rediculous amounts of green during school, have great jobs now and still sometimes wake and bake. And I am not talking 'C's', I am talking Deans List in Engineering.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

And unless his friend is a major recording artist, that's exactly what I'm getting at.

People that have that kind of disposable income don't get it by smoking weed every 40 minutes.
.

I know Coke is different than weed, but I have a good friend (I know, here we go with the "I know a guy thing again") that makes about $115 000 a year working a trade in Calgary, and literally uses every second paycheck for coke and gambling. I guess my point is, you seem to think the idea of someone bringing in large amounts of cash AND being really into drugs is unfathomable, but it really isn't. There ws even an article in a Calgary paper about a year ago, about a new and rising problem..... Wealthy business men ni Calgary being addicted to coke. Their wealthy, yet have a drug problem, it happens, but you seem to be stuck on the idea that it's an impposibility.