I HATE Racism

[Matata]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

How is it disgracing your relatives to acknowedge that all you've done to become a citizen is to be born?

They worked so hard so that just being born here was enough, and thinking that you deserve some recognition for their work is what I think is disgraceful.

Personally, I was just born, didn't do a thing about it. But THEY did a hell of alot.

I never asked for any recognition, your coming across like just another white-guilt, knee jerk idiot. OMG a white guy said he was proud of his ancestors accomplishments, call the WAAAAAHbulance.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by Matata

Personally, I was just born, didn't do a thing about it. But THEY did a hell of alot.

I never asked for any recognition, your coming across like just another white-guilt, knee jerk idiot. OMG a white guy said he was proud of his ancestors accomplishments, call the WAAAAAHbulance.

You're the guy who said it would be a disgrace to your ancestors if you acknowledged that all you did to become a citizen was to be born. That's all you did, that's all some dude who'd family has been here for a few years has done, why do you feel that you need to single yourself out because your family has been here longer?

It has nothing to do with being proud of you ancestors accomplishments. I'm proud of mine too and there's nothing wrong with that. What is wrong is thinking that it's a disgrace to our ancestors to say that all you've done to be a citizen is to be born here. Isn't that one of the things they worked for? So that you just being born here is enough regardless of who your ancestors are, or how long they've been in Canada?

If you think it's a disgrace to say you were just born here, then what would you answer if someone asked you "How'd you become a citizen of Canada?"

[missdpuck]

Originally Posted by Igottago

Where do you live? South Africa?

I happened to meet someone from the local black history museum today ....a really cool black lady in her 90s. She reminded me that as late as the 70s there were still segregated schools, restaurants etc in certain areas of the South-including my part of S. Fl. which is about an hour north of South Beach. So there are plenty of people around here who could be eating at some restaurant in which they couldnt eat as kids..simply because their family was black. What is the corresponding "white" experience ? Hitler's Germany?

[Teh_Bandwagoner]

I spent about 2 weeks with a relief team in Mississippi post-Katrina, and never once did I feel any sort of racism directed towards me. The closest was a very sweet lady who kept talking about how much she loved "the Orientals" lol. That was the first time I had ever been called Oriental

I did, however, see a very direct divide between blacks and whites. The slum areas we worked were predominantly black, a lot of them uneducated and illiterate. The middle-to-upper class areas were predominantly white. And oddly enough even though they were better off, there were still more FEMA trailers in the "white" areas than there were in the "black" areas. The racial divide there was very clear and present. Made me realize how much better we actually do have it up here. And is probably why it pissed me off so much to experience racism of any sort up here.

[missdpuck]

Originally Posted by Teh_Bandwagoner

I spent about 2 weeks with a relief team in Mississippi post-Katrina, and never once did I feel any sort of racism directed towards me. The closest was a very sweet lady who kept talking about how much she loved "the Orientals" lol. That was the first time I had ever been called Oriental

I did, however, see a very direct divide between blacks and whites. The slum areas we worked were predominantly black, a lot of them uneducated and illiterate. The middle-to-upper class areas were predominantly white. And oddly enough even though they were better off, there were still more FEMA trailers in the "white" areas than there were in the "black" areas. The racial divide there was very clear and present. Made me realize how much better we actually do have it up here. And is probably why it pissed me off so much to experience racism of any sort up here.

Wow..it's great that you went down there...well for me it's up there. I was there too and it was soooo heartbreaking! But werent some of the people the coolest you've ever met? I deliver mail down here, and for a while I had one of the routes in the 'hood' I walked in on crack deals, saw people shoot up in the street, crack whores fall down and never get up...and the worst was seeing someone who.d just been shot. I never however experienced any racism there...I actually got asked out alot but...the older people? You just fall in love with them..and you wish you could just put a stop to all the mayhem around them so they wouldnt have to be afraid...Oh and I am very sorry for what happened to you...

[fatso]

Originally Posted by Matata

I never asked for any recognition, your coming across like just another white-guilt, knee jerk idiot. OMG a white guy said he was proud of his ancestors accomplishments, call the WAAAAAHbulance.

You've got to be kidding me with this. Please tell me you've requested the 'WAAAAHbulance' for yourself.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by missdpuck

Wow..it's great that you went down there...well for me it's up there. I was there too and it was soooo heartbreaking! But werent some of the people the coolest you've ever met? I deliver mail down here, and for a while I had one of the routes in the 'hood' I walked in on crack deals, saw people shoot up in the street, crack whores fall down and never get up...and the worst was seeing someone who.d just been shot. I never however experienced any racism there...I actually got asked out alot but...the older people? You just fall in love with them..and you wish you could just put a stop to all the mayhem around them so they wouldnt have to be afraid...Oh and I am very sorry for what happened to you...

Me too, but I haven't seen some of the stuff you have. Still deliver in the 'hood, but my little part is actually quite quiet, despite a shooting a couple of weeks ago. Lots of old folks and the younger people there all work, for the most part. The first half of my route is industrial.

I'm probably joining the dark side soon.

[missdpuck]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Me too, but I haven't seen some of the stuff you have. Still deliver in the 'hood, but my little part is actually quite quiet, despite a shooting a couple of weeks ago. Lots of old folks and the younger people there all work, for the most part. The first half of my route is industrial.

I'm probably joining the dark side soon.

Ha! I'm bidding on a route on the other side of our office..we call it "the dark side". Most of the carriers who bid off our 'hood routes do so due to the stress of seeing all the crap. I hear it's calmed down abit due to gentrification before the housing crash . We had rivalries between the Haitian and African American drug dealers..that was part of the problem. So one day I'm in the 'hood. the next day I was delivering to millionaires' oceanfront mansions. I do not live in Delray bch. Fl but that's where I work. Some of the 911 terrorists lived here and needless to say things got interesting around here after the fact. The Haitians and American blacks do not get along well in general,although the Haitians do have a thriving business community here.

[Shawnski]

Here I was thinking this thread would be about speeders in the left lane on Deerfoot....

Originally Posted by BCReefer

It is racist to say stuff like .... "who is calling the kettle black"

No, not at all. That saying has NOTHING to do with racism ("the pot calling the kettle black" is about hypocricy.)

[missdpuck]

Originally Posted by Shawnski

Here I was thinking this thread would be about speeders in the left lane on Deerfoot....



No, not at all. That saying has NOTHING to do with racism ("the pot calling the kettle black" is about hypocricy.)

Right....from back in the day when pots,kettles,etc were made out of cast iron. which was dark grey/black

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by Azure

Strange thing is, I've seen more racism by minority groups then I have by white people.

Thats just me though.

How true

As for the original comment - I guess I'm a minority that wouldn't think it was racist. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it a ethnic minority telling a ethnic minority (ok ok, majority now) that it is Canada or whatever? But meh, I've heard alot worse and usually just laugh it off.

Quite frankly, I feel empowered towards "raciest comments" more then anything.