[Bump] Hooker and/or Blow

[troutman]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Its the myth of the moderrn man

1) Love is a lie, its underwhelming when faced with the survival/propagation instinct, which is basically spread the seed, no one gets out alive. I don't believe in the concept of Love being a real and lasting thing.

Do you love your parents?

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

ie also known as raising the bar to a point that you can never match once old familiarity rears its ugly head.

Thankfully, creativity is a strength of mine.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by troutman

Do you love your parents?

Do I care about them a great deal? Absolutely, would I miss them when they're gone, yes I would and I would look back on the time that I spent with them with an incredible amount of fondness.

Does my heart explode when I see them, I can't say it does. Do they consume my every thought? No.

Do I enjoy the time I have with them? Yes

Would I sacrifice my own life for them? I honestly question that.

When I was estranged from them for a bunch of years did I have a yearning to get back that feeling . . . simple answer is no.

I've been accused of being emotionally ######ed and detached by almost every girl I've dated or been with? Yup.

Maybe I don't know what love is, because I've never been consumed by it, and because of that my outlook towards it is that it doesn't exist and its been over rated.

But I've always been able to walk away from friendships and relationships without it destroying my life, so I hedge my bets by saying I've never really and truly loved anyone.

[rubecube]

I feel really sorry for you then. I love a lot of people in ny life and I'm incredibly happy that I feel that way about them.

[Northendzone]

I smoked a joint that had coke in it, man did I ever feel good that night....next day I was scared and it was the last time I did drugs.....if that is how it feels all of the time it is easy to see how people can get hooked on it.....

[gargamel]

Originally Posted by rubecube

What about those of us who are good-looking enough that we don't have to do any of that, but actually enjoy the romance?

You've never once gotten a girl an expensive gift or taken her to an expensive restaurant with hopes that it would help you get laid? If that's true, I suspect that you're pretty much the only member of the male species who can say that.


That's not to say that all guys are johns or all women are hookers, but that the stigma against them is a little silly since just about everyone has, at one time or another, traded things of monetary value for sex. It's just a matter of degrees, and at some arbitrary point along the spectrum, it become prostitution. Where that point is, I don't think anyone quite knows.

[HPLovecraft]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Its the myth of the moderrn man

1) Love is a lie, its underwhelming when faced with the survival/propagation instinct, which is basically spread the seed, no one gets out alive. I don't believe in the concept of Love being a real and lasting thing.

2) I don't really believe in emotional attachment in these cases, especially on the first wack of dates. I might really like hanging out with a girl, I might enjoy the company and conversation, the whold pounding pelvis action is awesome because both parties should feel better due to the releases of chemicals in the brain. But there's no emotional attachment until you have dated long past the sex date (3 is the standing rule). And lets be honest, that first time feeling out process when your both trying to impress each other is far better then the whole later on, I have an emotional attachment 6 months into the relationship thing.

3) And if fear is an emotion then in theory you should have a tremendous emotion attachment to a hooker, I mean she's a stranger who could be mentally unbalanced or addled on drugs or better yet wants to kill you and take your wallet. Or the fear of getting caught with a hooker by the police or your significant other, Fear is the ultimate emotion.

Sorry the concepts of love and emotional attachment were burned out of me with a flame thrower a long time ago.

Now its just about boning

What conception of love is a lie? You need to define love before being able to intelligently label it a lie. If you define love as the love of Hollywood, then that's sex, and it's not love. If you define it as "all consuming," then that's a crush, that's not love. Books upon books have been written on the subject, and it's hard to say any consensus has been met.

Anyway, my comment wasn't exclusively about love. It was about putting emotional significance into the act and the partner. You don't need to feel in love with someone to have sex with them, but it is still possible to appreciate them as an individual beyond an objectification and put an emotional value into the act, whether it's a momentary escape from loneliness in feeling close to another, or something else entirely. It's possible for people to do this. Animals (of the non-human variety) can't, and it's something that separates us.

No offence intended, but the easy way out is making yourself a victim of your own nature.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by gargamel

You've never once gotten a girl an expensive gift or taken her to an expensive restaurant with hopes that it would help you get laid? If that's true, I suspect that you're pretty much the only member of the male species who can say that.

Maybe I'm the wrong guy to talk to about this because most of my experience comes from two longterm relationships and only a handful of one-night stands and flings, but no I've never felt that I needed to buy a girl something to get into her pants. My current girlfriend insists that we split the costs on everything and it's been that way since we first started going out. That doesn't mean I never surprise her with flowers or gifts but when I do it's because I like seeing her happy and not because I need to do it to get laid.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by HPLovecraft

What conception of love is a lie? You need to define love before being able to intelligently label it a lie. If you define love as the love of Hollywood, then that's sex, and it's not love. If you define it as "all consuming," then that's a crush, that's not love. Books upon books have been written on the subject, and it's hard to say any consensus has been met.

Anyway, my comment wasn't exclusively about love. It was about putting emotional significance into the act and the partner. You don't need to feel in love with someone to have sex with them, but it is still possible to appreciate them as an individual beyond an objectification and put an emotional value into the act, whether it's a momentary escape from loneliness in feeling close to another, or something else entirely. It's possible for people to do this. Animals (of the non-human variety) can't, and it's something that separates us.

No offence intended, but the easy way out is making yourself a victim of your own nature.

I'm not a victim of my nature, I'm the master of my domain

[Bill Bumface]

Back to prostitutes and narcotics please.

[Ben_in_Canada]

Blow - No. Used to live under the constant fear of random drug tests (for sport)

Hookers - No. Was up for it in Vegas until I realized through my drunken haze that I was broke

[sadora]

Never done blow, have never wanted to do blow even though it's been offered. Yes to the hooker though
Not going to be specific as to the where, but while I was working as a Chef at a restaurant down town a few years back with this Croatian guy, it was pretty usual for us to hang out after closing to have some drinks with some of his shady friends...some were pretty interesting though and fairly fun to drink with. One of his friends was a pimp who runs escorts out of a really nice apartment down town. He would bring some of his girls sometimes...great looking girls too...and he would always joke around, "any girl you want free for my friends." Always turned him down though. One night, after breaking up with my girlfriend at the time, the offer was too tempting to pass up. I was feeling like crap and she was a very attractive girl, really nice too. Glad I did it, definitely made me feel better, and even better that it was free.

[saskflames69]

Not yet.

[rubecube]

I love the shame sprial and self-loathing some people have for bumping a line once or twice in their lives. It's blow. It's really not a big deal unless you let it become a big deal. Like anything, moderation is the key. If you're doing it at the odd party, nothing bad is going to happen to you. If you're doing it in the bathroom at work, you have a problem.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by rubecube

If you're doing it at the odd party, nothing bad is going to happen to you.

Not so simple for some people. Some get hooked right away.

You can't always predict who can "take it or leave it".

[Locke]

Originally Posted by troutman

Not so simple for some people. Some get hooked right away.

But then they would be rubes, better off confined to a cube.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Do I care about them a great deal? Absolutely, would I miss them when they're gone, yes I would and I would look back on the time that I spent with them with an incredible amount of fondness.

Does my heart explode when I see them, I can't say it does. Do they consume my every thought? No.

Do I enjoy the time I have with them? Yes

Would I sacrifice my own life for them? I honestly question that.

When I was estranged from them for a bunch of years did I have a yearning to get back that feeling . . . simple answer is no.

I've been accused of being emotionally ######ed and detached by almost every girl I've dated or been with? Yup.

Maybe I don't know what love is, because I've never been consumed by it, and because of that my outlook towards it is that it doesn't exist and its been over rated.

But I've always been able to walk away from friendships and relationships without it destroying my life, so I hedge my bets by saying I've never really and truly loved anyone.

Thanks for an honest answer. I don't mean to be glib about this. It is an interesting topic. Here, I posted about the "science" of love:

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthr...t=science+love

[Thor]

Still no hookers, no blow since this thread, just been beer and whiskey for me.

Been toying with a trip to Brazil, so if that happens I'm not sure my no hooker record will stay intact.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Thor

Been toying with a trip to Brazil, so if that happens I'm not sure my no hooker record will stay intact.

Neither will your never banged a tranny record then.

[HPLovecraft]

Originally Posted by rubecube

I love the shame sprial and self-loathing some people have for bumping a line once or twice in their lives. It's blow. It's really not a big deal unless you let it become a big deal. Like anything, moderation is the key. If you're doing it at the odd party, nothing bad is going to happen to you. If you're doing it in the bathroom at work, you have a problem.

Well, there is scientific evidence of cocaine being linked to sudden death. Treating blow as if it's weed is not exactly advisable.