2006 Blue Jays Thread

[CaramonLS]

Burnett had a great line in his rehab start in AAA:

5.0 IP, 0H, 0R, 0ER, 1BB, 7K. 67 total pitches.

For a first rehab start, in AAA, that is a great line. Heck, even Roger allowed hits in Single A.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by CaramonLS

Burnett had a great line in his rehab start in AAA:

5.0 IP, 0H, 0R, 0ER, 1BB, 7K. 67 total pitches.

For a first rehab start, in AAA, that is a great line. Heck, even Roger allowed hits in Single A.

This is great news, hopefully he will finally be healthy.

[Sylvanfan]

Who was it in the off season who kept clamouring that the Jays needed to get rid of Rios because his OBSP was terrible and not what was required of a corner outfielder? Rios has been great for the Jays this year as he's hitting for average and the power stroke is really coming around.

BJ Ryan gets the final 6 outs to nail down the save. Anyone want a mulligan on his big contract? No, I didn't think so. He's been a massive upgrade on Bautista and a huge improvement to the Jays closer role. Definitely the best they've had since they had a healthy Duane Ward in like 94.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

Who was it in the off season who kept clamouring that the Jays needed to get rid of Rios because his OBSP was terrible and not what was required of a corner outfielder? Rios has been great for the Jays this year as he's hitting for average and the power stroke is really coming around.
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Last year I believe it as Steve Simmons the was leading the "get rid of Rios" charge...he was obsessed with his lack of production. It boggles my mind how people decide in their own heads how quickly a player has to develop and are ready to write them off so early. Happens in all sports but the media should know better.

Simmons hasn't bothered to come clean and admit he was wrong, at least not that I've seen.

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

BJ Ryan gets the final 6 outs to nail down the save. Anyone want a mulligan on his big contract? No, I didn't think so. He's been a massive upgrade on Bautista and a huge improvement to the Jays closer role. Definitely the best they've had since they had a healthy Duane Ward in like 94.

'94! Wow, seems like yesterday, but that is a loooong time to go without a closer you can rely upon.

[albertGQ]

Don't wanna be nitpicky (well, I kinda do), but didn't BJ Ryan only get the final 5 outs??

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

'94! Wow, seems like yesterday, but that is a loooong time to go without a closer you can rely upon.

So...just for interests sake can we name all the schlubs that have been the Jays closer in that time? Off the top of my head:

- Batista
- Billy Koch
- Cliff Politte (for a brief period)
- Mike Timlin
- Kelvim Escobar
- Aquilino Lopez
- Jason Frasor
- Darren Hall

Am I missing anyone?

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

So...just for interests sake can we name all the schlubs that have been the Jays closer in that time? Off the top of my head:

- Batista
- Billy Koch
- Cliff Politte (for a brief period)
- Mike Timlin
- Kelvim Escobar
- Aquilino Lopez
- Jason Frasor
- Darren Hall

Am I missing anyone?

I think Randy Myers was in there for one of the years in the later 90's. I think he had like 40 saves but he ERA was above 4.

edit Randy Myers was with the Jays in 98 getting 28 saves and posting an ERA of 4.46

I must have been thinking of Escobar who did save 38 games in 2002, but posted a 4.27 ERA. Koch had a couple of decent years, but he could be an adventure on the mound. One year he had 33 saves and a 9-3 record. Of course most of those wins were blown saves that year.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/TOR/1998.shtml

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

I think Randy Myers was in there for one of the years in the later 90's. I think he had like 40 saves but he ERA was above 4.

edit Randy Myers was with the Jays in 98 getting 28 saves and posting an ERA of 4.46

I must have been thinking of Escobar who did save 38 games in 2002, but posted a 4.27 ERA. Koch had a couple of decent years, but he could be an adventure on the mound. One year he had 33 saves and a 9-3 record. Of course most of those wins were blown saves that year.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/TOR/1998.shtml

Escobar never liked being a closer. Myers best years were done, and with Koch you knew he could do it, but you were never sure if he would. Seeing the list, Timlin was pretty good for a year and a bit, I had forgotten about him. But it was sure nice in '92 when you could hand the ball off to Ward after the 6th and he would pass it to Henke for the 9th.

[habernac]

Ward and Henke, damn, the good old days. Ward looked nervous all the time, sweating bullets, like he was some kind of bomb squad technician. Threw out his arm way too early. Henke was the nerd with an arm like a cannon. What an amazing one-two punch.

[JayP]

Originally Posted by albertGQ

Don't wanna be nitpicky (well, I kinda do), but didn't BJ Ryan only get the final 5 outs??

Nope - Ryan got the last 6 outs. Speier walked a batter to start the 8th, then Ryan retired the side in order.

Things looking promising for a win today. 4-2 lead going into the top of the ninth with Ryan undoubtedly coming in here. Another great outing by Lilly going 6 innings allowing 0 ER, only 4 hits, while striking out 8.

[JayP]

Originally Posted by JayP

Nope - Ryan got the last 6 outs. Speier walked a batter to start the 8th, then Ryan retired the side in order.

Things looking promising for a win today. 4-2 lead going into the top of the ninth with Ryan undoubtedly coming in here. Another great outing by Lilly going 6 innings allowing 0 ER, only 4 hits, while striking out 8.

Ryan retires the side in order.

Jays win 4-2.

[Bobblehead]

Attendance was 32K+ this afternoon. Great crowd for a Thursday afternoon. I wonder if it there were a few field trips at the dome? Good to see, whatever the reason.

[JiriHrdina]

Wow. I totally forgot about Randy Myers. To be honest I don't even remember that at all. Lots of strange guys went through the Jays in the mid 90s though. Jose Canseco in a Jays uni? (Shudder)

[albertGQ]

and didnt' Jose get like 46 homers in a Jays Uni??

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by albertGQ

and didnt' Jose get like 46 homers in a Jays Uni??

Yeah, and batted .237 before jumping to TBay the next year.

[flames_1987]

Great to see the attendance for today! Jays move to within a game for the divison lead! With a series coming up against the worst team in the NL the Marlins. Burrnett returns in a week to the day as well!

Here's a question to ponder, who would you say has been the Jays MVP up to now? Sooo many choices, Wells, Rios, Glaus, Halliday are all choices that make sense. Even guys like Molina, Overbay, Jansem could be considered. I'd have to say myself, it goes to BJ Ryan. This guy has been nothing short of amazing, your heart just feels so much better knowing he's on the mound come the 9th inning and not Batista.


On a personal note, me and a few buddys we're planning on puling a road trip to New York to visit some friends at the start of August and turns out the Jays are in there for a 3 game series. Just got tickets to two of the games and really siked not only to see the Jays live but Yankee Stadium.

[Sylvanfan]

Yeah, the fact that the Jays wouldn't bring back Jose after all those home runs angered Clemens and was why he wanted a trade. He felt the club wasn't committed to winning. Than the next year Green, Delgado, Bautista all hit a large number of homeruns that more than replaced Canseco. Problem was they had bad pitching and really could have used Clemens who had pitched outstanding the previous two years.

Aaah the past. Henke was a big nerd, but had that good fork ball. I remember checking out one of those old baseball almanac sites and seeing that he made $55,000 in 1985. Talk about a bargain!

[Resolute 14]

Actually, Clemens simply used that as an excuse. He saw the giant contracts being handed out to other pitchers, and felt that as a two time defending Cy Young winner, he should get more money. Canseco was simply an excuse to get out.

[Jiggy_12]

Jays are just 1.0 games back from the AL east lead, with Boston and New York both losing today.

I know baseball is a tough sport to predict, but with Burnett coming back on June 22nd, it could be enough to bring the Jays into the division lead.