Link is completely unrelated to what I assume is AI generated information showing several have not provinces as net donors. Does that not make you question it? Who posts a link to information that is completely unrelated to the stats they post haha
If you are fine with Alberta subsidizing the rest of the country and think its patriotic or whatever. That's great, feel good about it. But using bad information to try to hide the fact its happening is wild.
2020 numbers, Figure 3, federal revenues per capita. Alberta is ~20% over the national average and about 10% higher than BC/Ontario in second place.
Figure 5, Alberta in last place for federal expenditures outside of major transfers.
You asked for federal transfers, that's what you got.
If you want to keep moving the goal posts and have stuff outside of federal transfers, that's what you should have asked for.
You got all uppity when somebody accused you of not knowing how equalization works, yet here you are proving again that you don't.
And without lowercase country, you will struggle to support any of those other things you deem important. If you paid attention in junior high social studies, this equation would be clearer.
Why exactly? I do not see all the smaller countries of the world begging to join their neighbors. Like why is Norway or Finland even a country? They should all join together apparently. Luxemburg civilians must be insane, they should join France.
Yes, I didn't need clarification that the per capita major transfers were in fact per capita.
I was expecting some clarification about the numbers you posted but the link wasn't related to those numbers at all.
The link is to how much federal transfer payments each province got.
You just seem mad you asked for transfer payments when you just wanted total expenditure. Do you want transfers to governments included or excluded for individual returns?
Why exactly? I do not see all the smaller countries of the world begging to join their neighbors. Like why is Norway or Finland even a country? They should all join together apparently. Luxemburg civilians must be insane, they should join France.
It's Luxembourg, again you needed to pay better attention. Take a look at the trade and financial ties to Belgium and Holland, and the integration into the EU, and tell me again how they are doing it all themselves.
You brought up Europe, many lessons to be learned there. Read up. Isolationism isn't what created the EU.
The link is to how much federal transfer payments each province got.
You just seem mad you asked for transfer payments when you just wanted total expenditure. Do you want transfers to governments included or excluded for individual returns?
Yes, I wanted a net balance of what people pay vs what they get from the feds. In Canada that naturally follows provinces.
I posted the link above showing those numbers. Numbers are a bit dated and that was during a recession in Alberta so more recent numbers would be even worse if you can find them.
It's Luxembourg, again you needed to pay better attention. Take a look at the trade and financial ties to Belgium and Holland, and the integration into the EU, and tell me again how they are doing it all themselves.
You brought up Europe, many lessons to be learned there. Read up. Isolationism isn't what created the EU.
You'll noticed he didn't bring up more suitable examples like land locked powerhouse Lesotho. Or maybe North Sentinel Island. Eritrea comes to mind.
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It's Luxembourg, again you needed to pay better attention. Take a look at the trade and financial ties to Belgium and Holland, and the integration into the EU, and tell me again how they are doing it all themselves.
You brought up Europe, many lessons to be learned there. Read up. Isolationism isn't what created the EU.
I'm not an isolationist. Far from it. Like ya, free trade, movement of goods, defense, monetary policy, ect. Those are all things that can and should be agreed upon amongst neighboring countries.
You do not need to give up control of your own decision making and tax system to achieve those goals.
It is hilarious that Albertans think that they will save money, as if they wont have to pay to access federal transportation corridors both coming and going. It's not like Canada will just let us use their trains, and port access for free. Let alone highways, or portions of pipeline infrastructure which the federal government helped pay.
It's just a hair brained high school social studies argument to think that the Alberta economy can just be separated and continue to operate the way it was despite how integrated it is.
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Yes, I wanted a net balance of what people pay vs what they get from the feds. In Canada that naturally follows provinces.
I posted the link above showing those numbers. Numbers are a bit dated and that was during a recession in Alberta so more recent numbers would be even worse if you can find them.
So you want everyone to pay the same and everyone to get the same. It sounds like equality. It is not. Unless you are going to hand out barrels of oil to every Canadian on an equal basis. Same with potential for hydro power. I need a river on my land. And tidewater access. Do I have gold under my house? No? Not fair, I want the govenrment got give me the same amount as Dave has on his land. Fred got Cancer and can't afford to survive, should Joe get Cancer to keep it equal?
No one starts equal, no one goes through life with the same advantageous and challenges. Neither does every community. Your simplistic view of how society works tells me things have gone pretty great for you, and you just want some more. We don't need to make everyone equal, but to ignore that and just want to take what you see as yours is a pretty selfish attribute, and maybe you want to sit back and examine that for a bit.
So you want everyone to pay the same and everyone to get the same. It sounds like equality. It is not. Unless you are going to hand out barrels of oil to every Canadian on an equal basis. Same with potential for hydro power. I need a river on my land. And tidewater access. Do I have gold under my house? No? Not fair, I want the govenrment got give me the same amount as Dave has on his land. Fred got Cancer and can't afford to survive, should Joe get Cancer to keep it equal?
No one starts equal, no one goes through life with the same advantageous and challenges. Neither does every community. Your simplistic view of how society works tells me things have gone pretty great for you, and you just want some more. We don't need to make everyone equal, but to ignore that and just want to take what you see as yours is a pretty selfish attribute, and maybe you want to sit back and examine that for a bit.
Yes I do want more. I've said that repeatedly. I want my communities taxes to remain in my community. I want my community to make its own decisions. The closer that decision making and the closer the tax revenues remain to me the better.
Provincial taxes are better than federal taxes. Municipal taxes are better than provincial taxes. If I was in charge I would immediately slash federal taxes by 50% or so and give that money to municipalities and provinces.
Yes I do want more. I've said that repeatedly. I want my communities taxes to remain in my community. I want my community to make its own decisions. The closer that decision making and the closer the tax revenues remain to me the better.
Provincial taxes are better than federal taxes. Municipal taxes are better than provincial taxes. If I was in charge I would immediately slash federal taxes by 50% or so and give that money to municipalities and provinces.
Haha I'm sorry but this is just such a bad idea. You have no idea how taxation works and what it goes to if you think having your taxes remain in your community is a good idea. Just a wild statement.
Yes I do want more. I've said that repeatedly. I want my communities taxes to remain in my community. I want my community to make its own decisions. The closer that decision making and the closer the tax revenues remain to me the better.
Provincial taxes are better than federal taxes. Municipal taxes are better than provincial taxes. If I was in charge I would immediately slash federal taxes by 50% or so and give that money to municipalities and provinces.
That’s just a recipe for the quick death of small and rural communities and the further consolidation of people into overpopulated urban areas. It also makes smaller provinces effectively nonviable.
Yes I do want more. I've said that repeatedly. I want my communities taxes to remain in my community. I want my community to make its own decisions. The closer that decision making and the closer the tax revenues remain to me the better.
Provincial taxes are better than federal taxes. Municipal taxes are better than provincial taxes. If I was in charge I would immediately slash federal taxes by 50% or so and give that money to municipalities and provinces.
Cut taxes, and give away money that no longer exists? Makes no sense. Not worth discussing when basic math seems to be lost here.
