[PGT] Montreal 0 Calgary 1

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Expected goals were 2.7 for Montreal and 1.3 for the Flames. Again, Wolf stole the game like he has often.

But you're right king Dino, your opinion is never wrong. In fact the Flames are really good and Wolf is just a small part of their success. Like you say.

I say that? where? quote me?

See here's the thing...I debate people on what they actually said...like "Hasek" and "historic" you have only said it 100 times I can quote it.

Wolf is a MASSIVE part of the Flames success, the top rookie goalie in the entire league in fact. Why would I be against Calgary having a star player? Why are you?

As for your stats, IDK...natural stat trick has it

https://www.naturalstattrick.com/gam...025&game=21008
Chances 17-14 Flames
HD Chances 7-6 Montreal
Expected goals of 1.82 for Montreal
Montreal had a 56% share of expected goals


Where did you get your stats? I was a fairly even game, maybe you only watched period 3 IDK

Tale of two games...Calgary dominated early and Montreal dominated late. Like Montreal had 6 shots halfway through the game...they certainly had their looks in the third and Wolf saved it.

[chummer]

This is quite the PGT.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by dino7c

See here's the thing...I call people out on what they actually said...like Hasek and historic.

Wolf is a MASSIVE part of the Flames success, the top rookie goalie in the entire league in fact.

As for your stats, IDK...natural stat trick has it

https://www.naturalstattrick.com/gam...025&game=21008
Chances 17-14 Flames
HD Chances 7-6 Montreal
Expected goals of 1.82 for Montreal
Montreal had a 56% share of expected goals


Where did you get your stats?

It was a tale of two games...Calgary dominated early and Montreal dominated late. Like Montreal had 6 shots halfway through the game...they certainly had their looks in the third and Wolf saved it.

My stats were from Money Puck.

Either way though, lots of people agree with the Flames being a really bad team with elite goaltending. If you look at opinions outside of this forum, it's not some crazy thought.

I know we are not allowed to have our own opinions though, or you will crap on them. Maybe he isn't Hasek, but he's carried a bad team to a playoff spot.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by chummer

This is quite the PGT.

Hate to think what it would've looked like if they had lost...

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Hate to think what it would've looked like if they had lost...

It’s just post stay-put trade deadline rage. Would have been much worse if we had spent futures to bring in rentals.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by chummer

This is quite the PGT.

Hasek, at his best, wouldn't be able to save it.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Expected goals were 2.7 for Montreal and 1.3 for the Flames. Again, Wolf stole the game like he has often.

Only watched the highlights, so take it with a grain of salt.

A few of Wolf's big saves came of skate deflections. Which can throw a goalie off, but in this game I think likely reduced the danger of the shots. Doubt expected goals accounts for it. The actual danger was less than the expected danger of those shots (which were some of Montreal's best statistical chances - point blank).

Still a fine goalie and a shutout, but "Hasek-level" is hyberbole.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

My stats were from Money Puck.

Either way though, lots of people agree with the Flames being a really bad team with elite goaltending. If you look at opinions outside of this forum, it's not some crazy thought.

I know we are not allowed to have our own opinions though, or you will crap on them. Maybe he isn't Hasek, but he's carried a bad team to a playoff spot.

I mean you can keep saying this...nobody is stopping you from posting obviously you posted about 100 times in the last week the exact same point. I am debating the outlandish and I see even you are walking it back now. Wolf isn't even the best goalie in the NHL this year let alone matching the best goalie off all time.

Best rookie? Flames MVP? yes, 100%

I guess I just don't get why you and Paulie are so mad about Wolf being awesome...he is on the team and will be for a decade plus hopefully. That is why I think they should upgrade the talent not downgrade it. With Wolf in net they just need a few more goals.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I mean you can keep saying this...nobody is stopping you from posting obviously you posted about 100 times in the last week the exact same point. I am debating the outlandish and I see even you are walking it back now. Wolf isn't even the best goalie in the NHL this year let alone matching the best goalie off all time.

Best rookie? Flames MVP? yes, 100%

I guess I just don't get why you and Paulie are so mad about Wolf being awesome...he is on the team and will be for a decade plus hopefully. That is why I think they should upgrade the talent not downgrade it. With Wolf in net they just need a few more goals.

I'm not "mad" about Wolf being great. I think it hurts the team to not get a top pick long term, but you also can't tell your all star goalie to lose.

They do need to update talent because they have the least goal scoring talent in the league, according to their league low goals for.

My only point is that this team without Wolf likely is sitting right with the Sharks in the standings. Some people think we are a couple pieces away, but I feel like we need to improve just about everything except for goaltending. 90% of this teams success this year is solely because of Wolf.

This is again, my opinion. I post on here because I appreciate different view points. But it seems some people want this forum to be an echo chamber of "the Flames are the best team on planet earth and Conroy can do no wrong, ever".

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

I'm not "mad" about Wolf being great. I think it hurts the team to not get a top pick long term, but you also can't tell your all star goalie to lose.

They do need to update talent because they have the least goal scoring talent in the league, according to their league low goals for.

My only point is that this team without Wolf likely is sitting right with the Sharks in the standings. Some people think we are a couple pieces away, but I feel like we need to improve just about everything except for goaltending. 90% of this teams success this year is solely because of Wolf.

This is again, my opinion. I post on here because I appreciate different view points. But it seems some people want this forum to be an echo chamber of "the Flames are the best team on planet earth and Conroy can do no wrong, ever".

Okay that's your new thing...you have spent the last week furious at anyone who dared say anything positive about the Flames other than Wolf though. Those in glass houses. Flames D has held up very well, they aren't giving up chances like the bottom teams are. The Flames are 14th overall in shots against not 32nd last I checked. You keep using quotes and then saying something I never said...when you find a quote of me saying the Flames are anything more than a playoff bubble team this season lets have it.

Still don't get the "its hurts the team to not get a higher pick" stuff.

If Wolf sucked they would get a higher pick yes, but then Wolf would suck. I will take the star rookie goalie over the magic beans please. Also, even with Vladar in net the Flames beat SJ and Hawks of the world most times...like you don't think they could be the Sharks with Vladar?

[jg13]

The thing is Wolf is going to likely be on this team for 8+ years and most likely will only get better.

We have a great prospect pool and tons of high draft picks to continue to improve the team. Whether thats through drafting or trading.

I was fully on the finish bottom 10 train till December and am way happier knowing this team has found a franchise goalie that will keep us competitive instead.

There is no guarantee that finishing in the bottom 10, this year especially will make us more competitive in the future.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

This is again, my opinion. I post on here because I appreciate different view points. But it seems some people want this forum to be an echo chamber of "the Flames are the best team on planet earth and Conroy can do no wrong, ever".

Meanwhile

Originally Posted by Rhett44

At this point you are either on "team tank" or "team delusional".

Put down the victim card please

[Groot]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

My only point is that this team without Wolf likely is sitting right with the Sharks in the standings. Some people think we are a couple pieces away, but I feel like we need to improve just about everything except for goaltending. 90% of this teams success this year is solely because of Wolf.

This is again, my opinion. I post on here because I appreciate different view points. But it seems some people want this forum to be an echo chamber of "the Flames are the best team on planet earth and Conroy can do no wrong, ever".

I dont know anyone that wants this site to be an echo chamber but there's no need to rehash the same thing over and over. And over. And over.

If your premise is true, lets say the Flames without Wolf are Sharks level bad and the Flames were picking top 5 in the draft this year. If the Flames knew they could use that selection on a goalie that would join the team immediately in 25/26 and become a perennial elite goalie, eventual Vezina contender or winner, and be with the team for the next decade plus, would you not be ecstatic with that draft selection?

That's the team with Wolf. Plus 4 more 1st round selections next two years. And a defenseman that shares a record with only Bobby Orr and likely goes top 3 in a redraft.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I mean you can keep saying this...nobody is stopping you from posting obviously you posted about 100 times in the last week the exact same point. I am debating the outlandish and I see even you are walking it back now. Wolf isn't even the best goalie in the NHL this year let alone matching the best goalie off all time.

Best rookie? Flames MVP? yes, 100%

I guess I just don't get why you and Paulie are so mad about Wolf being awesome...he is on the team and will be for a decade plus hopefully. That is why I think they should upgrade the talent not downgrade it. With Wolf in net they just need a few more goals.

Can you not talk about me. Go away always trying to bait people into pissing matches you ruin every thread. You are the one always trying to argue that Wolf isn’t great not me.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Can you not talk about me. Go away always trying to bait people into pissing matches you ruin every thread. You are the one always trying to argue that Wolf isn’t great not me.

More lying from Paulie...but you are the guy who said the Dallas Stars really suck (we can quote if need be) so I don't really want to be on the same side is you in any hockey debate.
Wolf is great, best rookie in the NHL...I have never said otherwise.
Sorry I draw the line at historic/Hasek for now, so do you but you are in your usual battle to be contrarian so are having a struggle

Paulie Walnuts saying I ruin every thread lol

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dino7c

More lying from Paulie...but you are the guy who said the Dallas Stars really suck (we can quote if need be) so I don't really want to be on the same side is you in any hockey debate.
Wolf is great, best rookie in the NHL...I have never said otherwise.
Sorry I draw the line at historic for now.

Paulie Walnuts saying I ruin every thread is really something lol

I never called him historic so stoping making things up. We can find the quotes off u trying to discredit him in other threads as well.

No go away and stop quoting or talking to me.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I never called him historic so stoping making things up. We can find the quotes off u trying to discredit him in other threads as well.

No go away and stop quoting or talking to me.

First of all I never said you did. I will continue to use the site within the rules of CP thanks...the sites biggest troll isn't gonna tell me what to do. I'm supposedly the biggest homer of CP but I am trying to discredit Wolf lol.

Find the quotes, GL. The worst I've said about Wolf isn't top 5 in the league yet and not Hasek. I have said he is the Flames MVP and the best rookie in the entire league, discredit? I mean he won't be a vezina finalist yet its just being real.

Speaking of quotes...I don't want this guy on my side so no worries

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

The stars suck a lot. What happened when you go all in with old players and no stars up the middle

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I'm supposedly the biggest homer of CP

You are the biggest homer on CP, and that kind of grew on me, so don't change!

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by dino7c

First of all I never said you did. I will continue to use the site within the rules of CP thanks...the sites biggest troll isn't gonna tell me what to do. I'm supposedly the biggest homer of CP but I am trying to discredit Wolf lol.

Find the quotes, GL. The worst I've said about Wolf isn't top 5 in the league yet and not Hasek. I have said he is the Flames MVP and the best rookie in the entire league, discredit? I mean he won't be a vezina finalist yet its just being real.

Speaking of quotes...I don't want this guy on my side so no worries

You are the biggest Homer on this site, that I've seen. The fact is, anyone like Paulie that has an opinion different than your own is enough to trigger you to start responding to every post.

You also hold a grudge against people who have a differing opinion because I've seen multiple posts with you referring to me, when I haven't even responded. I know you're not happy with my opinion on the players.

It's fine, you don't credit Wolf as much as I do and think the team is good without him. And you're entitled to your opinion.

[FBI]

Hasek WISHES he could be like Wolf