[News] With the 28th OA pick, the Flames select RW Matvei Gridin

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

He's going to the Q

https://twitter.com/user/status/1808527852221980889

"academic reason"

[TheScorpion]

Scott Wheeler is reporting that Val-d'Or may be trading Gridin to Rimouski

[sureLoss]

Guaranteed Memorial Cup? Might sway him

https://twitter.com/user/status/1808528476548309245

[Reggie Dunlop]

Could he have stayed in the USHL, or transferred to another Junior A league like the BCHL?

[Mephisto]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Yes, if this is correct and I believe it is, I'm 100% hoping he goes to the Q. There's risk (and precedence with Fox), no matter how small, that he becomes a free agent after Michigan and chooses to sign with someone else instead of the Flames. Maybe more so if he becomes a legit top prospect in North America by then. Until things change in Calgary (new arena, successful team, etc) and the team becomes a team kids want to join, I'd like for the Flames to mitigate the risk of draft picks leaving as best as they can.

Could he not just wait two years and go back in the NHL draft under the CHL route? If he really doesn’t want to come here he won’t. Thankfully that doesn’t seem to be the case.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Guaranteed Memorial Cup? Might sway him

https://twitter.com/user/status/1808528476548309245

Awesome! Would love to see him in the Memorial cup

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Mephisto

Could he not just wait two years and go back in the NHL draft under the CHL route? If he really doesn’t want to come here he won’t. Thankfully that doesn’t seem to be the case.

Yeah, but the NCAA route would let him pick where he wants to go.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Guaranteed Memorial Cup? Might sway him

https://twitter.com/user/status/1808528476548309245

Makes sense.

Val Dor sucks, not sure why he'd want to go there.

But to the Memorial cup hosts? Sure.

[Darkon]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

"academic reason"

I’m not sure if your just pointing this out or if there is some sarcasm here but if this was me (I hated school and was solely focused on sport) then combine that with coming over from Russia and English being a “2nd” language and being expected to jump into a university setting at the age of 18 when again all I want to do is play hockey! This is a no brainer for me if I put myself in his shoes.

[cannon7]

Honestly, IMO, risks aside, Michigan would have been better for his development.

[GullFoss]

What does academic reasons imply? That he didn't have the grades for Michigan?

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

What does academic reasons imply? That he didn't have the grades for Michigan?

Yes. That his grades were too low for the admission office.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Darkon

I’m not sure if your just pointing this out or if there is some sarcasm here but if this was me (I hated school and was solely focused on sport) then combine that with coming over from Russia and English being a “2nd” language and being expected to jump into a university setting at the age of 18 when again all I want to do is play hockey! This is a no brainer for me if I put myself in his shoes.

Also not to mention he can earn a bunch of scholarships in the CHL and have a decent crack at a good education once his career is done.

[TheScorpion]

He also gets to play with reigning QMJHL MVP Mathieu Cataford in Rimouski

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Also not to mention he can earn a bunch of scholarships in the CHL and have a decent crack at a good education once his career is done.

He's going to make money in his hockey career (either a lot here or a decent amount in the KHL... or both). The scholarship money is almost trivial... this isn't going to be a means of getting educational allowances for him... it's purely vocational training.

[InternationalVillager]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Yes, if this is correct and I believe it is, I'm 100% hoping he goes to the Q. There's risk (and precedence with Fox), no matter how small, that he becomes a free agent after Michigan and chooses to sign with someone else instead of the Flames. Maybe more so if he becomes a legit top prospect in North America by then. Until things change in Calgary (new arena, successful team, etc) and the team becomes a team kids want to join, I'd like for the Flames to mitigate the risk of draft picks leaving as best as they can.

The risk with drafting a non-USA college player is minimal.

Most of the times, the main priority of these Russian players is to play in the NHL as soon as possible. It's not to stick around in the NCAA. For them, they really don't have some loyalty to a particular city that they haven't likely even visited yet. It's simply to make something out of their lives similar to other immigrants wherever it is.

[SuperMatt18]

He technically could also go right to the AHL if he or the organization wanted him to.

[GullFoss]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Yes. That his grades were too low for the admission office.

How bad do one's grades need to be to not get into Michigan on an athletic scholarship?

Interesting barbell approach between the academic inclination of the flame's two first round picks

[Matty81]

At least he's staying in NA but a bit too bad to hear that's not a great league particularly for learning the defensive side of the game, for me its by far the weakest CHL league. Basically he goes there for a year and puts up massive numbers or he gets devalued as a prospect, I don't see any way he actually raises his stock there. Better than going back to Russia though.

[InternationalVillager]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

How bad do one's grades need to be to not get into Michigan on an athletic scholarship?

Interesting barbell approach between the academic inclination of the flame's two first round picks

https://www.ncaa.org/sports/2013/11/...igibility.aspx

Originally Posted by NCAA

For Division I student-athletes, the following must be completed in addition to the above standards:

Earn at least a 2.3 grade-point average in core courses.
Meet an increased sliding-scale standard (for example, an SAT score of 820 requires a 2.5 high school core course GPA)
Successfully complete 10 of the 16 total required core courses before the start of their seventh semester in high school. Seven of the 10 courses must be successfully completed in English, math and science.
Students who earn at least a 2.0 GPA and meet the current sliding-scale standard will be eligible for practice in the first term and athletically related financial aid the entire year, but not competition. Freshmen who are academically successful in the first term will earn the ability to continue to practice for the remainder of the year.

So just a bit above passing grades - C+ average.