Why are cops calling you? I've never had this happen to me.
Yeah even 15 years ago when I was young and dumb and got my license suspended for demerits and was having regular interactions with the police, not once have I ever got a phone call from them. Reading this thread is bizarre.
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Block all numbers you don't know then I guess? I'm not saying you're weird for not wanting the call, I'm just saying him making the call is normal and happens all the time
We need the telecoms to crack down on number spoofing, so we can trust that whoever is calling is legit.
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Guess I just get out more than others here. Like jar_e said, everyone's experience is different. Just because you haven't experienced something common, doesn't make it weird.
Other times were way way back in my pipeline inspection days, I was towing a trailer and blew past a scale I didn't see was open and very quickly got a call from the Sheriff's asking me very sternly to 'get the hell back here'
Then just more normal stuff I guess, when a storage unit of mine got broken into 2 years ago the Airdrie RCMP would call me once in a while with updates on the investigation, or with my time both at the city or then CFD there were a few occasions where I'd be a witness to something and get calls about that often
The law is horribly written probably on purpose. If the light turns yellow when you are 1mm from the stop line you can't stop, but technically you are breaking the law? If this was true then photo radar would be dishing out tickets for every driver that proceeded through the intersection when the light was yellow, but did not turn red while they were still in the intersection.
If that is not indeed how the law works then the law is idiotic.
Well, first of all, those cameras are red light cameras, not yellow light cameras, so they are set to nab red runners and not yellow runners. According to the law, they could nab yellow light runners.
But yeah, this happened 20 years ago and I'm pissed to this day. Yellow means stop.
As you can see from the law I quoted, it's different from the way AMA frames it. Incidentally, I took my drivers' training through AMA and that is why I thought I was correct. I checked that book before court so I "knew" I did nothing unlawful.
Nope. Yellow means stop. If you don't stop for a yellow they can ticket you. You can go to court and fight it, but if you acknowledge entering an intersection while the light is yellow, you have just admitted guilt. It literally happened to me.
If yellow means stop just like red, one has to wonder why we even bother with yellow and don't just go straight from green to red.
Think of the tiny number of dollars we could save by only having 2 lights instead of 3!
I said that exact thing to the judge. He was nice, but firm. Yellow means stop and he didn't want to debate it.
Shockingly people have different experiences than you do? Is it really that mind blowing that the police phone people? What a ridiculous statement.
It really is that mind blowing to me. I don't like that a civil servant can phone me to admonish me for driving the speed limit. It's invasive.
And again, it's also super stupid, again, as evidenced by the example in this thread: the cop called the wrong person and woke them up at 5:30 in the morning. That's ridiculous.
I have to call customers all the time at my job. We deliberately don't phone residential customers until after 9:30 as we don't want to bother people in the mornings.
You seriously aren't aware phoning somebody at 5:30 am is super rude?
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Nope. Yellow means stop. If you don't stop for a yellow they can ticket you. You can go to court and fight it, but if you acknowledge entering an intersection while the light is yellow, you have just admitted guilt. It literally happened to me.
Well that's insane. By the letter of the law thousand of people break it every day, and if you follow the law to the letter you will cause accidents.
Block all numbers you don't know then I guess? I'm not saying you're weird for not wanting the call, I'm just saying him making the call is normal and happens all the time
Once again, he is not weird for not wanting a call. He has a whole litany of reasons he is weird. Like more than any person I know, real or fictional. That might be a fun thread. Ways Sliver is weird:
It really is that mind blowing to me. I don't like that a civil servant can phone me to admonish me for driving the speed limit. It's invasive.
And again, it's also super stupid, again, as evidenced by the example in this thread: the cop called the wrong person and woke them up at 5:30 in the morning. That's ridiculous.
I have to call customers all the time at my job. We deliberately don't phone residential customers until after 9:30 as we don't want to bother people in the mornings.
You seriously aren't aware phoning somebody at 5:30 am is super rude?
I get your angle on this but the 5:30 AM point doesn’t make a lot of sense. He was calling the registered owner of the vehicle that was actively driving. Who should he be worried about waking up in that scenario?
It really is that mind blowing to me. I don't like that a civil servant can phone me to admonish me for driving the speed limit. It's invasive.
And again, it's also super stupid, again, as evidenced by the example in this thread: the cop called the wrong person and woke them up at 5:30 in the morning. That's ridiculous.
I have to call customers all the time at my job. We deliberately don't phone residential customers until after 9:30 as we don't want to bother people in the mornings.
You seriously aren't aware phoning somebody at 5:30 am is super rude?
I think we’re mixing themes here. I was really referring to people getting calls from the police in general. Not really specific to the OP. That being said, I explained the likely reason why the wife was phoned. She was likely the registered owner showing and that number is the one they called. I have no idea, as I’ve mentioned previously, the infinite amount of variables of why someone would make that call beyond that. I imagine, given the fact this was happening with a vehicle that was registered to the OP’s wife they felt the need to contact her immediately.
I never knew people would be so shocked police call people. Also, unfortunately, I have to call people at all hours of the day for a multitude of reasons. Trust me I don’t like phoning people at 530 in general but there’s not much for alternative.
It really is that mind blowing to me. I don't like that a civil servant can phone me to admonish me for driving the speed limit. It's invasive.
And again, it's also super stupid, again, as evidenced by the example in this thread: the cop called the wrong person and woke them up at 5:30 in the morning. That's ridiculous.
I have to call customers all the time at my job. We deliberately don't phone residential customers until after 9:30 as we don't want to bother people in the mornings.
You seriously aren't aware phoning somebody at 5:30 am is super rude?
Did he call the wrong person though? He intended to call the registered owner, that's exactly who answered.
We don't know the reason for the call, mine was just a theory since I assumed CPS is told to limit side-of-road presence in bad conditions just like we were. It also could have been that the driver didn't match the registered owners description and he wanted to check the classic 'Hey, did your car get stolen when you were warming it up' or even some other reason
Again, I don't think you're weird for not wanting the call. My phone wouldn't even ring that early. I guess where we disagree is that I just don't think it's that invasive, I have call control enabled and if I really don't want to receive calls do not disturb mode is on. Doesn't change that this is still a normal thing
I get your angle on this but the 5:30 AM point doesn’t make a lot of sense. He was calling the registered owner of the vehicle that was actively driving. Who should he be worried about waking up in that scenario?
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Did he call the wrong person though? He intended to call the registered owner, that's exactly who answered.
We don't know the reason for the call, mine was just a theory since I assumed CPS is told to limit side-of-road presence in bad conditions just like we were. It also could have been that the driver didn't match the registered owners description and he wanted to check the classic 'Hey, did your car get stolen when you were warming it up' or even some other reason
Again, I don't think you're weird for not wanting the call. My phone wouldn't even ring that early. I guess where we disagree is that I just don't think it's that invasive, I have call control enabled and if I really don't want to receive calls do not disturb mode is on. Doesn't change that this is still a normal thing
But haven't we learned in this thread both JonDuke and his wife are registered, but only one number shows up for the cops? We don't see the problem with this?
What about any family with multiple drivers? Take my daughter...she's insured on four vehicles at my house and registered on zero of them. If a cop called me (probably the main guy on the car, although it could also be my wife) it would either scare the ever-loving sht out of me that something had happened to my daughter, or I just wouldn't believe them if they didn't spit some facts confirming their identity super fast.
This is unacceptable. Cops should not have access to our phone numbers for pretend driving infractions, or real ones for that matter. A phone number should be confidential. There needs to be a higher threshold for providing access to a beat cop to people's phone numbers than just running a plate.
If a detective needs my phone number for a criminal case or something, then obviously that's a completely different story. But phone bombing people in the wee hours on a subjective and not-illegal BS move is beyond the pale.
Well that's insane. By the letter of the law thousand of people break it every day, and if you follow the law to the letter you will cause accidents.
No you won't. The letter of the law says the stop must be able to be made safely. If you stopping for a yellow causes an accident, then you're not stopping safely.
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I think we’re mixing themes here. I was really referring to people getting calls from the police in general. Not really specific to the OP. That being said, I explained the likely reason why the wife was phoned. She was likely the registered owner showing and that number is the one they called. I have no idea, as I’ve mentioned previously, the infinite amount of variables of why someone would make that call beyond that. I imagine, given the fact this was happening with a vehicle that was registered to the OP’s wife they felt the need to contact her immediately.
I never knew people would be so shocked police call people. Also, unfortunately, I have to call people at all hours of the day for a multitude of reasons. Trust me I don’t like phoning people at 530 in general but there’s not much for alternative.
I get that she was the registered owner. As you can see, that's not a good way to communicate with somebody on the road since multiple people can be insured on a single vehicle.
But, yeah, I assume police call people, but I have also assumed it would be for important reasons. Doing a hundred in a hundred zone is - without a doubt - not a good reason to call somebody at 5:30am given there is no way to know if the registered owner is even the driver. It shows extremely poor judgement.
I get that she was the registered owner. As you can see, that's not a good way to communicate with somebody on the road since multiple people can be insured on a single vehicle.
But, yeah, I assume police call people, but I have also assumed it would be for important reasons. Doing a hundred in a hundred zone is - without a doubt - not a good reason to call somebody at 5:30am given there is no way to know if the registered owner is even the driver. It shows extremely poor judgement.
You're right that he couldn't know who was driving. If a vehicle registered to a woman is being driven by a man that's enough of a good reason to call. Maybe it was stolen from their driveway while she slept. I don't think he needed to act the way he did after talking to her but I have zero problem with the phone call.
No you won't. The letter of the law says the stop must be able to be made safely. If you stopping for a yellow causes an accident, then you're not stopping safely.
You continue to be wrong on this. The law - that I quoted on the last page - says this:
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Drivers and pedestrians must not enter the intersection when the light is yellow.
Again, I got a ticket for this. Sounds insane, right? Yeah, I thought so, too. That's why I went to court to fight it.
Did you enter the intersection when the light was yellow?
Yes?
That's illegal.
That's the law, dude. Forget this "safe to stop" business. It's irrelevant if they want to ticket you. It's not vague at all. Read what I just quoted. That was cited to me in court by a judge. Yellow means stop. Red means stop. They mean the exact same thing.
Is there an allowance available if you can't safely stop for a yellow? That, unfortunately, is totally out of your hands, again, as per my experience and the exact wording of the law. Your word automatically loses compared to a cop's. I say it wasn't safe and he says it was safe. Okay, well since he said it was safe to stop and the law says you have to stop, you just illegally entered an intersection.
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