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[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by wwkayaker

What’s the difference between a chickpea and a garbanzo bean?

Phuck Nose

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by wwkayaker

What’s the difference between a chickpea and a garbanzo bean?

it's the same as the difference between aubergines and egg plants

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by DoubleF

The set up and initial costs of eating healthier is higher (ie: several hundred in costs to stock up a pantry and then a few hundred every few weeks to top up perishables) than eating unhealthy on a per meal basis (ie: Ordering out at $20-40), but once you get started up, the average cost per healthy meal is lower than the unhealthy meal (ie: Total costs to stock up pantry divided by total meals prepared.

I've chatted with some people only to realize that they somehow literally believe that smaller and more manageable payments is more financial prudent and responsible than occasional spikes in their spending. I don't get how they come to that conclusion, but I've run into people that believed this more than once.

You don’t necessarily need to stock up all at once. Phase the unhealthy items out and bring healthier options in.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

it's the same as the difference between aubergines and egg plants

Nobody sends aubergines emojis.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Nobody sends aubergines emojis.

of course, aubergines don't shave, you'd never see the thing for the huge bush

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by Wormius

You don’t necessarily need to stock up all at once. Phase the unhealthy items out and bring healthier options in.

You don't have to stock up all at once, but it often happens when the conversation also tries to blend in money savings and practicality considerations.

Also, you typically don't buy rice, condiments, spices, oil, salt etc. in single servings. You also typically prefer to purchase a weeks worth of food vs going to buy only what you need daily. Those weekly numbers alone are already more than the single meals the individual is factoring in weird ways in their head. I'm not saying stock up several months or years all at once like a doomsday prepper, but most of us will stock up around a weeks worth of meals at minimum when doing this type of stuff vs doing daily trips to the store. That's where the hang up happens. Either it's annoyingly inconvenient to go daily or comments about how all that food cost more than what they'd normally pay in a day.

Like I said, I don't get the logic and how they justify and cling to it. They obviously buy bags of chips and other snacks that has consumption over several days... but they can't apply the same logic to the concept of buying actual food from the store and running a daily average for the cost of food.

[RichieRich]

Sales and clearances help reduce costs immensely too. Lots of things near to or at their best before date sharply reduced and easily thrown into a soup immediately or freezer. Including meats and veggies from Superstore if you use their discount App. And also Bulk Barn if you time things right you can sometimes find things at deep discount. Including yummy junk food.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by DoubleF

You don't have to stock up all at once, but it often happens when the conversation also tries to blend in money savings and practicality considerations.

Also, you typically don't buy rice, condiments, spices, oil, salt etc. in single servings. You also typically prefer to purchase a weeks worth of food vs going to buy only what you need daily. Those weekly numbers alone are already more than the single meals the individual is factoring in weird ways in their head. I'm not saying stock up several months or years all at once like a doomsday prepper, but most of us will stock up around a weeks worth of meals at minimum when doing this type of stuff vs doing daily trips to the store. That's where the hang up happens. Either it's annoyingly inconvenient to go daily or comments about how all that food cost more than what they'd normally pay in a day.

Like I said, I don't get the logic and how they justify and cling to it. They obviously buy bags of chips and other snacks that has consumption over several days... but they can't apply the same logic to the concept of buying actual food from the store and running a daily average for the cost of food.

Probably because you’re pitching them on several hundred dollars set-up cost and a few hundred dollars every few weeks to top-up perishables.

It definitely doesn’t have to cost that much.

Imagine being a low income person struggling with your mental health and being told that eating healthier only requires several hundred dollars or that you should just eat 4 eggs for breakfast. That would seem incredibly unattainable.

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by wwkayaker

What’s the difference between a chickpea and a garbanzo bean?

I don’t know, I’ve never had a Garbanzo Bean in my mouth…

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

I don’t know, I’ve never had a Garbanzo Bean in my mouth…

But you’ve had a chickpea in your mouth?

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by Wormius

But you’ve had a chickpea in your mouth?

Heyyyy, you got the joke.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

it's the same as the difference between aubergines and egg plants

Are turnips and rutabagas different?

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by troutman

Are turnips and rutabagas different?

you mean neeps and swedes, yep

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Probably because you’re pitching them on several hundred dollars set-up cost and a few hundred dollars every few weeks to top-up perishables.

It definitely doesn’t have to cost that much.

Imagine being a low income person struggling with your mental health and being told that eating healthier only requires several hundred dollars or that you should just eat 4 eggs for breakfast. That would seem incredibly unattainable.

How would you pitch it then?

I've tried the introducing a meal or two healthy option a week scenario in the past as well only to see it fall flat. I've gone to the store, shown a nice option for around $25 for a day or two of food... "For a few bucks more I'd rather someone cook it for me".

And sometimes, they look at that couple meals a week scenarios and have their hang ups on inconvenience. Then they ask how I do things and that's another problem too, even if I tell them they don't have to do it that way. Like they view it as a slippery slope or something.

[CliffFletcher]

These norms tend to be generational. People who didn’t grow up with families preparing food for themselves often lack the skills or even the awareness of how to cook.

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by troutman

Are turnips and rutabagas different?

Quite similar but also quite different.

Turnips remind me more of a bitter and spicy radish flavor. Rutabaga has the radish flavor but significantly less bitter flavor more flavor of a carrot.

https://www.thespruceeats.com/differ...0tennis%20ball.

Root vegetables are kinda odd for me. Some people tell me I have to like them in all their raw, cooked or roasted forms, but I just don't enjoy them prepared in specific ways.

I personally don't like turnips cooked, roasted or raw.
I like rutabaga, but only raw. I saw a kid in elementary school eat it that way, I tried it and liked it (goes well with cream of cucumber dip).
I like beets, but not raw, cooked or roasted only.
Carrots I like raw, not cooked. But it is acceptable as part of a stew/soup if it is not the primary flavor. Roasted is passable.

Like, I'll eat it without making a fuss, but if I have the chance to avoid ordering, adding or cooking it in the manner I dislike it, I'll do just that.

[you&me]

Originally Posted by DoubleF

How would you pitch it then?

I've tried the introducing a meal or two healthy option a week scenario in the past as well only to see it fall flat. I've gone to the store, shown a nice option for around $25 for a day or two of food... "For a few bucks more I'd rather someone cook it for me".

And sometimes, they look at that couple meals a week scenarios and have their hang ups on inconvenience. Then they ask how I do things and that's another problem too, even if I tell them they don't have to do it that way. Like they view it as a slippery slope or something.

Honestly, if this is the case, 'they' seem like a lost cause.

Personally, several points on my mental health level can probably be attributed to not dealing with people like that.

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by you&me

Honestly, if this is the case, 'they' seem like a lost cause.

Personally, several points on my mental health level can probably be attributed to not dealing with people like that.

Well... I guess. And while I agree that situations like this are worth a few points on the scale, someone put in a ton of effort to pull me out when I was in my dark place and I appreciated that and I understand it takes an inordinate amount of effort on occasion.

For people I interact relatively frequently, I'd rather have tried and failed than not tried and regretted.

[you&me]

Originally Posted by DoubleF

Well... I guess. And while I agree that situations like this are worth a few points on the scale, someone put in a ton of effort to pull me out when I was in my dark place and I appreciated that and I understand it takes an inordinate amount of effort on occasion.

For people I interact relatively frequently, I'd rather have tried and failed than not tried and regretted.

I can't tell if we're on topic or off on a wild tangent.

If we're talking about people we're close with that are in a dark place, then yes, I'm happy to extend a lot of effort to try and help them out to the best of my ability.

But if we're talking about someone that's not in a dark place, but simply too stupid to look at the math of buying cheap grocery staples vs. door dash-ing every meal and then complaining about "affordability", my life is better for not having to interact with those people.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by DoubleF

Quite similar but also quite different.

Turnips remind me more of a bitter and spicy radish flavor. Rutabaga has the radish flavor but significantly less bitter flavor more flavor of a carrot.

https://www.thespruceeats.com/differ...0tennis%20ball.

Root vegetables are kinda odd for me. Some people tell me I have to like them in all their raw, cooked or roasted forms, but I just don't enjoy them prepared in specific ways.

I personally don't like turnips cooked, roasted or raw.
I like rutabaga, but only raw. I saw a kid in elementary school eat it that way, I tried it and liked it (goes well with cream of cucumber dip).
I like beets, but not raw, cooked or roasted only.
Carrots I like raw, not cooked. But it is acceptable as part of a stew/soup if it is not the primary flavor. Roasted is passable.

Like, I'll eat it without making a fuss, but if I have the chance to avoid ordering, adding or cooking it in the manner I dislike it, I'll do just that.

so you dice and boil rutabaga in salted water as you would do for potatoes, then mash them with butter and whipped cream and a pinch or so of nutmeg salt to taste, it's like a comlpex mashed tatties for any roast lunch, Turkey stuffed loin of pork or the like