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Old 11-10-2023, 09:41 PM   #161
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That’s too bad. I wanted to keep him.
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Zadorov hasn't been great this year

he says the right things but his play not so much other than the big hits
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Old 11-10-2023, 09:41 PM   #163
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Huge mistake if the Flames don't keep him.
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Would be ballsy not to bring back a Gudbranson level dman back in a trade. Defense is not the farm’s strength, and leaning into a lot of DeSimone and Gilbert could be an utter disaster.
What’s the focus here though?

The Flames don’t need to get better this season.
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Wouldn't surprise me if Treliving is tempering and using the agent to do it.
That’s what I thought as well, through channels let it be known he’d be giving him a nice size extension.
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Old 11-10-2023, 09:42 PM   #166
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Huge mistake if the Flames don't keep him.
depends on the contract he wants
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What? Wasn't there just an article last week about Zadorov calling out the team?

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He said he tried to extend in the off season and was met with nothing.
What? No, that's not what we're talking about. Read what I posted, it's Zadorov from very recently speaking to the Flames dressing room. It was in response to Trent's post about not hearing anything about a dressing room fracture.
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Would be ballsy not to bring back a Gudbranson level dman back in a trade. Defense is not the farm’s strength, and leaning into a lot of DeSimone and Gilbert could be an utter disaster.
Which is good for the rebuild/retool. Punt on this season while they have 4 really good rental pieces and have a bunch of picks, cap space, and a high pick next summer. This thing can be well on the right track by the time the new rink opens if a few realistic things go their way
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Was the ice time comment directed at the Leafs or Flames? It was in response to a "Can we keep him?" tweet from a presumed Leaf fan (location of Toronto in his Twitter bio).

It seems like he's saying any team who trades for him better give him ice time if they want to keep him beyond this season.

Or he may have mistaken a joke question from a Leaf fan for a legitimate question from a Flames fan.
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Sure, and I'm sorry. The insider stuff in the past 6 months on CP maybe gets to me a little compared to the old days of verified stuff only, and I apologize for that. Just seems like a perfect amalgamation of everything out there on Zadorov (like 4 or 5 different points about the player and his feelings) and like 10 minutes after the news breaks, while your driving?

Again, sorry, just frustration on my part on what insider info is these days on CP. I live for rastamastas stuff, it's late to the party and it's 100% gold.
That's fair. I have never said what I hear is a sure thing and Rasta is definitely the best inside source on here. I don't even consider myself and insider at all, I know a few people that hear things. That doesn't mean it is right or it will come to fruition at all. It is fun to discuss regardless but don't ever take what I post on here rumour wise as actual news.
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What’s the focus here though?

The Flames don’t need to get better this season.
No, but you also can’t just throw 2 weak rookies into a 3rd pair and let them drown. Have some mildly serviceable guy and rotate the youngsters until they get their footing.
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Old 11-10-2023, 09:46 PM   #172
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He wants a trade to Toronto? Make them overpay or trade him to Montreal.
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Old 11-10-2023, 09:46 PM   #173
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People need to separate the player and person. He's not that great and the big hits are infrequent. He also gets his face smashed in fights.

Lucic didn't make us any bigger and Zadorov doesn't either.

If someone is willing to pony up for him, you immediately trade him.

I would treat this with urgency and not wait it out too long.
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Old 11-10-2023, 09:47 PM   #174
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Big Z for Domi. Domi needs top 6 minutes. He’s talented

With all the D being moved. Whole got to replace??
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Old 11-10-2023, 09:47 PM   #175
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That's fair. I have never said what I hear is a sure thing and Rasta is definitely the best inside source on here. I don't even consider myself and insider at all, I know a few people that hear things. That doesn't mean it is right or it will come to fruition at all. It is fun to discuss regardless but don't ever take what I post on here rumour wise as actual news.
Okay so you're not an insider. Glad we established that much.

(Not meant as a slight, just glad that we can get facts straight because its good to know who has a direct source here and who's going off the grapevine)
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Would be ballsy not to bring back a Gudbranson level dman back in a trade. Defense is not the farm’s strength, and leaning into a lot of DeSimone and Gilbert could be an utter disaster.
Good.
A disaster of a season is the best season right now
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Zadorov is a perfect player to trade. A contender would love to add him. Hes a good player on his current contract but hes definitely going to get overpaid next year. Take the assets and run.
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No, but you also can’t just throw 2 weak rookies into a 3rd pair and let them drown. Have some mildly serviceable guy and rotate the youngsters until they get their footing.
I know they lack NHL experience but Desimone is almost 29 and Gilbert is 27 these are not youngsters.
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No, but you also can’t just throw 2 weak rookies into a 3rd pair and let them drown. Have some mildly serviceable guy and rotate the youngsters until they get their footing.
It's going to take that level of desperation to catch the Sharks and Oilers.
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