[News] Flames Call Up Wolf

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

If in an alternate universe 22 year old McDavid had to take an ordinary development path to the league and the Oilers were hesitant to promote him despite him owning the AHL because they only saw him playing top 6 C and weren't sure they wanted to depart with whichever okay but not great nhlers they would have in those spots and decided to hold out to see if there was more value either in the player or on the trade market, they would look pretty stupid right?

To a lesser degree the Flames are more or less doing this in goal with Wolf right now.

#### or get off the pot.

Comparing a goalie to a center, come on now
a hockey team can only start one goalie per game and 18 skaters

Wolf is either a starter or not playing much in which case he is better off in the AHL

like are you guys even serious?

look around the league and name all the 18-20 year old goalies

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by dino7c

tell the Oilers

again 22 year old goalie...Spencer Knight is also in the AHL

22 is VERY young for a goalie, he should play most of the year in the AHL. Devon Levi is the only younger goalie in the league right now and that is going...okay at best

If the Oilers had cap space they could have a vladar caliber goalie within a week.

Their situation is extremely confined and will require a couple favors to get any one of value into their net.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Bingo

If a player is playing for the Flames I generally hope he plays well and helps the team succeed, and don't throw in a playoff series from two years ago to continue to make the claim that he sucks when lately he hasn't.

You be you though!

Did you seriously suggest that I hate a player so much I want us to lose against the effing OIlers?? hahahahahaha

But he hasn't and you are clearly just an apologist for him. Not only did he suck in that playoff series, he historically sucked! lol

Name one good game he has had against the Oilers in the past 3 years even. It's clear he has a case of the yips against the Oiler and god damn is it ugly.

[PuckSlap]

Originally Posted by dino7c

If Wolf plays this weekend he is going up against some high end offensive talent...this isn't the game 81 SJ Sharks

temper expectations

That's my concern. Not that he's not going to be a great goalie. But that some of the fans are going to use this as the determining factor. He might win, sure. But he also might lose 7-3..

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[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Did you seriously suggest that I hate a player so much I want us to lose against the effing OIlers?? hahahahahaha

But he hasn't and you are clearly just an apologist for him. Not only did he suck in that playoff series, he historically sucked! lol

Name one good game he has had against the Oilers in the past 3 years even. It's clear he has a case of the yips against the Oiler and god damn is it ugly.

2 weeks ago lol
that game should have been 10-2

High danger chances were 19-4 in favour of the Oilers and even the Oilers 4th goal was just an outdoor rink bounce

Markstom was great in that game

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

If the Oilers had cap space they could have a vladar caliber goalie within a week.

Their situation is extremely confined and will require a couple favors to get any one of value into their net.

for free? like who?

Its odd you guys are getting so worked up about Wolf not getting a chance as he is called up to get a chance lol

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Thing is, a lot of people here declare the losing goalie to be "second best goalie on the ice" no matter how well each play,

Yeah, it's pretty silly. Sometimes the better goalie wins, sometimes he loses.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

It's probably very brief. I could see him being returned after a game.

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Could be as soon as after tomorrow morning's skate if Markstrom is 100% by then.

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Who's overstating anything by actually quoting stats that support he's had a harder shot allotment in front of him this year.

More info is good!

I agree with you his counting numbers are flat year over year, but the team is giving up more by basically 20%, making that hard to do.

I'm a Markstrom detractor, but this year my feel is he has been fine. He's not winning or losing games on his own.

Moneypuvck has him right at mid-pack in goals saved above expected/60 for goalies who have played a min of 7 games (16 out of 29). Natural Stat trick has him closer to the bottom quarter at 25 out of 32 in their GSAA/60, but that feels a little harsh.

Either way, my complaints about the Flames this year are not centred on goaltending.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by dino7c

2 weeks ago lol
that game should have been 10-2

High danger chances were 19-4 in favour of the Oilers and even the Oilers 4th goal was just an outdoor rink bounce

Markstom was great in that game

Great. did we win? he wasn't great either. 3 of those goals were average. So at best he was good.

But what else would we expect from the biggest Flame apologist of all time! shish boom bah. flame are great! flames are great. rah rah rah.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Great. did we win? he wasn't great either. 3 of those goals were average. So at best he was good.

But what else would we expect from the biggest Flame apologist of all time! shish boom bah. flame are great! flames are great. rah rah rah.

I have been a very harsh critic of the goaltending the last year or so but you have no argument so personal attack

"did we win"

what a ####ing dumb argument

HD chances were 19-4
If the Flames buried ALL of their HD chances it would have been a tie lol

if you can't admit Markstom had a good game in the heritage classic maybe check your bias
like your nonsense about the Pacific division being the worst in hockey you always spew

[Locke]

Originally Posted by cral12

Okay...come on! Supremely under-appreciated 'Airwolf' reference.

You get my 'Thanks' good sir!

[GFG#1]

Originally Posted by dino7c

And if Wolf struggles in the NHL which would be totally normal for his age?

he sits on an NHL bench vs. starting goalie in the AHL


Some of you just assume he is going to step in and be lights out and take over the starter role for the next 15 years...guy is 22

I actually don't think him playing in the AHL is doing anything for his game at this point other then getting reps in. He was the top goalie 2 years in a row, and Is pretty near the top at the moment.

I personally think he would be far better off riding the bench in the NHL and practicing with NHL shooters every day then being the starter in the A.

Logistically it could work the same way NHL-AHL, he could ride the bench between NHL starts. Then he could play in the AHL when both teams are in Calgary and he needs to stay sharp and get a few reps in, they could send him down.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Who's overstating anything by actually quoting stats that support he's had a harder shot allotment in front of him this year.

More info is good!

I agree with you his counting numbers are flat year over year, but the team is giving up more by basically 20%, making that hard to do.

The overstating part is framing it as 20%... he's basically stopping 1 additional dangerous shot per game. That's not nothing but it's also not the difference between what he was last year and solid. I mean he has the 5th worst GSAA in the league so far... he had the 4th worst showing in the league last year by the same measure. So yeah... he's been a bit less bad but that doesn't make him solid.

[dino7c]

Its like the Oiler argument...at some point it's not all on the goalies

I mean the Flames allowed a 2 on 0 last game

[Johnny Makarov]

It's unbelievable anyone who has watched the past 100 games can even defend Markstrom.... it's mind boggling.

and last year was even more hilarious. You have Timbit posting "yeah all you markstrom haters can suck it" early in the 3rd period and boom we end up losing the game by 2. It happened like 2 or times! lol

[dammage79]

It's about time. In my opinion they should have moved a goalie before the season started. But, Wolf has now fully proven he's done with the AHL and however they decide to divy up NHL games, Wolf has to be in the NHL full time now.

Excited for Wolf, happy that they finally called him up.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

It's unbelievable anyone who has watched the past 100 games can even defend Markstrom.... it's mind boggling.

I defended one game...you asked a question and got an answer

[Groot]

N/m

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Now do high danger chances against.

Sure.

Expected Save Percentage
The save percentage an average NHL goalie would have, based on the quality of the shots the goalie has faced.

Save % Above Expected
The goalie's actual save percentage minus their expected save percentage.

Low Danger Save % Above Expected

• Last season (min games played: 20)
  - 1st Ullmark, 0.011 (actual: 0.984, expected: 0.973)
  - 16th Skinner, 0.002 (actual: 0.972, expected: 0.971)
  - 25th Markstrom, -0.002 (actual: 0.968, expected: 0.970)
  
• This season (min games played: 3)
  - 1st DeSmith, 0.018 (actual: 0.992, expected: 0.973)
  - 16th Bobrovsky, 0.006 (actual: 0.977, expected: 0.971)
  - 48th Markstrom, -0.017 (actual: 0.954, expected: 0.971)

Medium Danger Save % Above Expected

• Last season (min games played: 20)
  - 1st Samsonov, 0.047 (actual: 0.927, expected: 0.880)
  - 16th Bobrovsky, 0.013 (actual: 0.888, expected: 0.876)
  - 38th Markstrom, -0.009 (actual: 0.867, expected: 0.875)
  
• This season (min games played: 3)
  - 1st Comrie, 0.136 (actual: 1.000, expected: 0.864)
  - 13th Markstrom, 0.032 (actual: 0.907, expected: 0.874)
  - 16th Quick, 0.024 (actual: 0.907, expected: 0.883)

High Danger Save % Above Expected

• Last season (min games played: 20)
  - 1st Kochetkov, 0.145 (actual: 0.825, expected: 0.680)
  - 16th Saros, 0.074 (actual: 0.757, expected: 0.682)
  - 43rd Markstrom, 0.024 (actual: 0.700, expected: 0.676)
  
• This season (min games played: 3)
  - 1st Vladar, 0.285 (actual: 1.000, expected: 0.715)
  - 16th Woll, 0.130 (actual: 0.786, expected: 0.655)
  - 32nd Markstrom, 0.081 (actual: 0.781, expected: 0.697)