11-07-2023, 05:14 PM
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#161
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
Or…
Matthew went to a championship caliber roster and Johnny went to Columbus.
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100%. Everyone just looks at stats and makes their determinations off of that. Well, how did that work out for the Flames? James Neal was a 10 x 20 goal scorer, but looked like a total noob on skates here. Ditto for Huberdeau who set records prior to wearing the Flaming C.
Always have to delve deeper than just the numbers. Based on what we saw over their careers as Flames, Gaudreau and Tkachuk were very much drivers and I'd even give Johnny the slight nod. If he played on the same Florida Panthers team, there's no doubt in my mind Gaudreau would've been 100+ points too.
Pretty easy to score more points when your team is in the offensive zone 50%-60% of the time as opposed to Columbus where they were defending 50%-60% of the time. Scoring rates naturally would drop off considerably regardless of your linemates.
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11-07-2023, 05:15 PM
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#162
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Jason14h
If you don’t think JG partied during the season you were never at Cowboys Casino late at night !
Also - Covid is no longer a threat to close the border to the USA . That played a big part in his wife’s desire to be in the US having a new child
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even though it isn't a current threat, I think it surfaced a risk of being separated by a border. So I agree, it likely was a factor. Particularly for a family that seems very close.
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11-07-2023, 05:19 PM
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#163
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Originally Posted by Jason14h
If you don’t think JG partied during the season you were never at Cowboys Casino late at night !
Also - Covid is no longer a threat to close the border to the USA . That played a big part in his wife’s desire to be in the US having a new child
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I saw these guys party, it's no surprise to me and nor would I don't judge. But for the OP to say that's the primary driver in why his wife wanted him out sounds absurd.
But yeah, I agree with you. His wife absolutely wanted to be back in the USA and back close to home. That Frank Seravalli seemed pretty spot on to me.
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11-07-2023, 05:31 PM
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#164
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent
It looks as though there's trouble in Ohio paradise as Johnny Gaudreau is on par with Huberdeau this season in production and was benched in the Blue Jackets' most recent game.
The idea was floated around by the guys at BB and the twitterverse that the new regime Flames could make amends with Gaudreau's camp and see him come back for another round with the Flames a la Jokinen, Cammalleri..
Not sure what a deal would look like, (some even suggesting a John for John swap with salary retention to even out the cap hits) and we don't know what Kek's mindset is, but what would the appetite be around here for this?
Do you believe in second chances after a sour departure? Is Gaudreau even worth it still after 30?
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I think of all the parties involved last summer, only Tkachuk wouldn't want a do over.
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11-07-2023, 07:11 PM
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#165
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: I'm somewhere where I don't know where I am
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
You people ruin every thread.
Bill Peters is just as good a coach as he got big bumps in points for those same players.
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Ha ha ha
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11-07-2023, 07:23 PM
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#166
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: CALGARY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
You people ruin every thread.
Bill Peters is just as good a coach as he got big bumps in points for those same players.
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Those points weren't as high as Sutter , oh and by the way, Peter's didn't lead a loser franchise to a 7th game of the Stanley cup finals and didn't win 2 cups. You may not want to accept that but that's the reality.
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11-07-2023, 07:29 PM
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#167
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Paulie Walnuts list of despicable people who this site would be better off without continues to grow by the day lol
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11-07-2023, 07:29 PM
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#168
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Regina
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Never would I ever want him back in Calgary. He isn’t the answer to anything. He made his choice so now he can go be irrelevant in Columbus. Huberdeau is who we got and I’ll support him because he wanted to be in Calgary.
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11-07-2023, 07:45 PM
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GOAT!
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Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL
Paulie Walnuts list of despicable people who this site would be better off without continues to grow by the day lol
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Yet, I'm pretty sure he himself is a perma-ban returnee.
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11-07-2023, 07:48 PM
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#170
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Well lets look at his production.
Harley - Hard ass
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Gulutzan - a joke
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Peters - maybe a blend
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Peters/Ward - good guy
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Ward/Sutter - players coach/hard ass
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Sutter - hard ass
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Larsen - no clue
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Vincent - players coach
5 points YTD
Looks like a guy that is inconsistent year over year and needs a new coach to get him going every other year.
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Or…
He’s played for two of the most middling-to-bad organizations in the league.
And was asked to do wayyy too much as a 5 ft 8 160 lb LW.
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11-07-2023, 07:54 PM
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#171
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
You people ruin every thread.
Bill Peters is just as good a coach as he got big bumps in points for those same players.
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Pipe down Don.
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11-07-2023, 09:48 PM
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#172
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NOT a cool kid
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Calgary
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Huby and Johnny hockey both benched.
Time to trade and admit mistakes were made by all parties
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11-07-2023, 09:52 PM
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GOAT!
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What a crazy coincidence that Johnny gets benched for half the third in his last game, and then the guy we acquired to replace him gets benched for the third in the very next game.
Like hockey is just so weird sometimes.
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11-07-2023, 10:01 PM
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#174
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Atomic Nerd
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FanIn80
What a crazy coincidence that Johnny gets benched for half the third in his last game, and then the guy we acquired to replace him gets benched for the third in the very next game.
Like hockey is just so weird sometimes.
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Everybody who's name ends in eau gets benched!
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11-07-2023, 10:01 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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A benched former 115-point left winger for benched former 115-point winger swap would be pretty sweet right about now..
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11-07-2023, 10:02 PM
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#176
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Maybe Huska is just sending a message to Conroy. "DO IT!! DO IT!!"
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11-07-2023, 10:05 PM
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#177
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Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Nm
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11-07-2023, 10:09 PM
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GOAT!
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Flipping Huberdeau for Gaudreau would instantly resurrect Lindholm's game. Then we bring Coronato back up...
Gaudreau Lindholm Coronato
Sharangovich Kadri Zary
Coleman Backlund Mangiapane
Dube Ruzicka Duehr
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11-07-2023, 10:12 PM
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#179
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FanIn80
Flipping Huberdeau for Gaudreau would instantly resurrect Lindholm's game. Then we bring Coronato back up...
Gaudreau Lindholm Coronato
Sharangovich Kadri Zary
Coleman Backlund Mangiapane
Dube Ruzicka Duehr
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You mean we could have a 1st, 2nd and 3rd line again?
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11-07-2023, 10:25 PM
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#180
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Do it. Please. For my sanity.
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