[Rumour] Toffoli, Lindholm, Backlund, and Hanifin unlikely to re-sign

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

The Pacific isn’t terrible but has some terrible teams which allow average teams to get more points and good teams to pad their points

Compared to Floridas division which is a powerhouse for example

There's no terrible teams in that division? Our 4th place team had more points than their 3rd place team.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by jayswin

You should apply for Peter Hanlon's job. You staunchly defend the Flames and everyone on it until literally the second they leave or aren't coming back and then you turn on them before the body's cold, lol.

Because I don't want to sign them long term...like 99% of posters here

Hmmm

People piling on me for stating facts

Pom Pom waiver for saying the division isn't bad

Division that just won the cup in a joke of a series against the East champ that factually had less points than the Flames

Seriously you guys can go #### yourselves

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I'm saying that's what most teams do...are you new?

And if you are trying to suggest it isn't cheaper to sign guys in Florida

Lol

Well they obviously don't want to sign since everyone is requesting a trade? Or is Conroy low balling all of them? Doesn't seem plausible.




You were saying Tkachuk would've gotten 10.5 in Florida if the taxes were the same as in Calgary and just saying that's not the case according to Noodles. You can find it here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nnrh...Qal2n&index=46

starts around 20min mark.

Since he played in both markets I would assume he is correct about the tax situation.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Ferarri

This is fascinating and exactly what this club needs.

I am curious though as to why so many players want out. Don't believe the team will be competitive anytime soon? Conflict in the room?

I mean they all could have had a fresh start under a new GM and coach. Really curious as to what the main issue is.

Well, Lindholm and Backlund have both stated during the garbage bag day media availability that they were unsure about re-signing because they want to win. Hanifin seemed fine to extend, but apparently he wants to wait until next season when the cap goes up, as he feels he would end up leaving money on the table, but that's a non-starter with Conroy.


Toffoli I don't know - but it is probably a little bit from column A, and a little bit from column B. I am sure eventually more things will get leaked. For now, it seems to be purely a mix of question marks about the Flames competing, and players wanting to cash-in next season.

[automaton 3]

I think this is beauty, Conroy smoked 'em out.

Let the dealing commence.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Saqe

Well they obviously don't want to sign since everyone is requesting a trade? Or is Conroy low balling all of them? Doesn't seem plausible.




You were saying Tkachuk would've gotten 10.5 in Florida if the taxes were the same as in Calgary and just saying that's not the case according to Noodles. You can find it here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nnrh...Qal2n&index=46

starts around 20min mark.

Since he played in both markets I would assume he is correct about the tax situation.

Nothing has changed in the last 20 years?

Calgary has to pay more, it's not a debate

[kingkahuna]

Anyone know if the next couple of drafts are supposed to be strong?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Saqe

Well they obviously don't want to sign since everyone is requesting a trade? Or is Conroy low balling all of them? Doesn't seem plausible.




You were saying Tkachuk would've gotten 10.5 in Florida if the taxes were the same as in Calgary and just saying that's not the case according to Noodles. You can find it here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nnrh...Qal2n&index=46

starts around 20min mark.

Since he played in both markets I would assume he is correct about the tax situation.

Nobody has requested a trade...they are not willing to sign extensions allegedly

Like I said I bet it's a team leak to push the issue

You are either in or out...No Gaudreau maybe's

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by kingkahuna

Anyone know if the next couple of drafts are supposed to be strong?

There's always a lull after the big ones like this.

26 seems to be the one to look at.


But there are a couple of Iginlas coming soon....

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Matty81

I agree that it wouldn't be totally scorched earth. I'd still be a lot more comfortable with Tanev staying, he is such a good role model and I think would really be a huge asset for Wolf. Keep him trade big Z?

How much and how long do you extend Tanev for? Does he want to return? If so, for how much? It may not really be in the Flames' hands any longer with what has been going on, or it simply may not make sense.



I prefer to trade him. I 100% agree that he is a great role model, very steady on the ice, and also provides great leadership. He is, however, going to turn 34 in December, and his ability to stay healthy seems to once again be a question mark. If he was younger and without injury issues, I would want the Flames to re-sign him as well. I just don't think it would be smarter to trade him at this point, and find a few solid vets to fill the gap for now.


It will be interesting to see what happens with him, but I would be surprised if he stayed (and Zadorov at this point too, though I see Zadorov staying until the deadline).

[kukkudo]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Because I don't want to sign them long term...like 99% of posters here

Hmmm

People piling on me for stating facts

Pom Pom waiver for saying the division isn't bad

Division that just won the cup in a joke of a series against the East champ that factually had less points than the Flames

Seriously you guys can go #### yourselves

Nah dude it don't work like that, maybe you should go F yourself?

[Southside]

Sutter gone and still lack of interest in extending from many.pop:

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by kukkudo

Nah dude it don't work like that, maybe you should go F yourself?

Calling me out for saying something 99% are agreeing with

Eat a fat dick
Is how that works

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Calling me out for saying something 99% are agreeing with

Eat a fat dick
Is how that works

Might be time to take a break from the internet homie

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by kingkahuna

Anyone know if the next couple of drafts are supposed to be strong?

#1 to just before the Flames pick will be solid.

[Matty81]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

How much and how long do you extend Tanev for? Does he want to return? If so, for how much? It may not really be in the Flames' hands any longer with what has been going on, or it simply may not make sense.



I prefer to trade him. I 100% agree that he is a great role model, very steady on the ice, and also provides great leadership. He is, however, going to turn 34 in December, and his ability to stay healthy seems to once again be a question mark. If he was younger and without injury issues, I would want the Flames to re-sign him as well. I just don't think it would be smarter to trade him at this point, and find a few solid vets to fill the gap for now.


It will be interesting to see what happens with him, but I would be surprised if he stayed (and Zadorov at this point too, though I see Zadorov staying until the deadline).

Even keep him till the deadline. Help break the new guys in and still get a return. I agree he is battered and you don't back up the truck for him, but if he'd sign on for another season or two I'd love to see it. Could be wrong but feels like the flames are about to be a team with loads of cap room too

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Calling me out for saying something 99% are agreeing with

Eat a fat dick
Is how that works

You may be the least self aware person I have seen on any forum, anywhere.

Holy Christ.

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by Ferarri

This is fascinating and exactly what this club needs.

I am curious though as to why so many players want out. Don't believe the team will be competitive anytime soon? Conflict in the room?

I mean they all could have had a fresh start under a new GM and coach. Really curious as to what the main issue is.

My guess is both.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Saqe

You may be the least self aware person I have seen on any forum, anywhere.

Holy Christ.

Okay Calgary and Florida pay the same for contracts guy

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by Southside

Sutter gone and still lack of interest in extending from many.pop:

Sutter wasn’t 100% the problem. But he definitely wasn’t the solution