[Rumour] LeBrun: All signs point to Hanifin not wanting to extend with Flames

[ForeverFlameFan]

Weegar is arguably our best D man. I’m gonna love having him for another 8 years.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Lucic and made him captain? Gawdin or Phillips? Both looked better than Kylington. Who knows, but Kylington was a nonentity to anyone but hopeful Flames fans. The guy played 8 games the season leading up to the expansion draft. He wasn’t getting selected.

You don’t know that. There’s every reason to believe he could have been selected as those you point out. Given those options and Francis’s history of wanted depth on the blue line I think Kylington is almost certainly is favoured over those you list.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Yeah, he was sooooooo concerned about defensive debt that he traded it away after 55 games. Keep believing that a guy who spent pretty much the whole season munching popcorn would have been the pick. Wasn’t happening. Kylington looked like a massive dud.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by TOfan

That’s a low percentage play though.

If you’re trading Hanifin for picks, it’s pretty unlikely those picks turn out to be better than Hanifin is, was, or will be for the foreseeable future.

It’s fine to acquire picks but if that’s the way they go, the Flames shouldn’t, nor should the fans, expect those picks to be better than Hanifin. If a pick turns out to be better than Hanifin, that should be considered a home run. Not impossible but unlikely. Especially if you not getting a top 10 pick.

The player isn't going to be better than Hanifin though. Fans need to get that out of their head. This isnt a move to upgrade Hanifin. It's a move to get something back instead of nothing. Hes a UFA. And yes picks are risky but they also have the most upside. They are also currency for trades. I'm also fine getting a young player who isn't as good as Hanifin but will have upside and can grow with the team. Getting a vet is pointless. It's someone who is either going to need to get paid or has UFA eligibility ans can bolt.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Yeah, he was sooooooo concerned about defensive debt that he traded it away after 55 games. Keep believing that a guy who spent pretty much the whole season munching popcorn would have been the pick. Wasn’t happening. Kylington looked like a massive dud.

You’re probably right, they would have taken Philips or Gawdin without question.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Yeah, he was sooooooo concerned about defensive debt that he traded it away after 55 games. Keep believing that a guy who spent pretty much the whole season munching popcorn would have been the pick. Wasn’t happening. Kylington looked like a massive dud.

The Kraken drafted several young d-men with no better track record than Kylington: Lauzon, Borgen, Bayreuther, C Fleury, Cholowski. Lots of pundits had Kylington as an expansion target before protected lists were released. It’s not a stretch at all to think Kylington would have been grabbed.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by Hackey

The player isn't going to be better than Hanifin though. Fans need to get that out of their head. This isnt a move to upgrade Hanifin. It's a move to get something back instead of nothing. Hes a UFA. And yes picks are risky but they also have the most upside. They are also currency for trades. I'm also fine getting a young player who isn't as good as Hanifin but will have upside and can grow with the team. Getting a vet is pointless. It's someone who is either going to need to get paid or has UFA eligibility ans can bolt.

This. Hanafin was a 4OA pick and will end up having a career like a 4OA pick. Not a star but a solid solid NHLer for 15-20 seasons. Most picks aren’t going to come close to that, but anyone is better than no one.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Lucic and made him captain? Gawdin or Phillips? Both looked better than Kylington. Who knows, but Kylington was a nonentity to anyone but hopeful Flames fans. The guy played 8 games the season leading up to the expansion draft. He wasn’t getting selected.

This is the list of who was exposed:

Forwards: Milan Lucic, Derek Ryan, Josh Leivo, Matthew Phillips, Byron Froese, Glenn Gawdin, Zac Rinaldo, Justin Kirkland, Brett Ritchie, Buddy Robinson and Dominik Simon
Defensemen: Mark Giordano, Michael Stone, Oliver Kylington, Nikita Nesterov and Alex Petrovic
Goaltenders: Tyler Parsons and Louis Domingue

Seems to me that of that group, Kylington is the most likely. Unless you think somehow Seattle was drunk and would have picked Lucic and that cap hit.

[Lanny_McDonald]

As opposed to Giordano and his cap hit.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Gio could still play.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

As opposed to Giordano and his cap hit.

Gio was in the final season of his contract and easy to move at the deadline (which is exactly what happened). Lucic had two more years on his contract, so he would not have been the easily movable asset Gio was.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Hackey

The player isn't going to be better than Hanifin though. Fans need to get that out of their head. This isnt a move to upgrade Hanifin. It's a move to get something back instead of nothing. Hes a UFA. And yes picks are risky but they also have the most upside. They are also currency for trades. I'm also fine getting a young player who isn't as good as Hanifin but will have upside and can grow with the team. Getting a vet is pointless. It's someone who is either going to need to get paid or has UFA eligibility ans can bolt.

You can go on these futures tangents where you always want to sell off our good assets for less than their value but the ownership and GM see it otherwise, thank God.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Toronto doesn’t need Hanifin with Rielly, McCabe, and Gio on the left side.

They could have used him in the playoffs...Gio is 100

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by dino7c

They could have used him in the playoffs...Gio is 100

Noah also does have 0 goals and 8 points and is -12 in 27 career playoffs games. He probably would have been no better.

[White Out 403]

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[Hockey_Ninja]

^You should probably put that in spoiler tags (the F bomb)

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

Noah also does have 0 goals and 8 points and is -12 in 27 career playoffs games. He probably would have been no better.

Quiet please

That’s embarrassing

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

Noah also does have 0 goals and 8 points and is -12 in 27 career playoffs games. He probably would have been no better.

So a reg season darling and a no show come playoff time?

Sounds like a Toronto target

[Harry Lime]

I like Washington as a potential landing spot for hanifin. Classic 1st, prospect and player.

If the pick is #8, I think that your taking a project prospect like defenseman Ryan Chesley, and a roster payer to make the money work. Emphasis would be on the 1st, and Washington will have to deal with the stress of a potentially dropping michov.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

Noah also does have 0 goals and 8 points and is -12 in 27 career playoffs games. He probably would have been no better.

Gio

41 1 10 11 -14

and 40 years old

Don't be dumb any team would take Hanifin over Gio right now