[News] Wolf named AHL MVP and goaltender of the year

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by FormerPresJamesTaylor

He may rank 2 spots ahead of Pelletier, but if my math is correct: +3 > -13 = Broberg is no good.

[My2Cents]

Really interesting to see Spencer Knight and Wolf compare over time. Edge to Knight in that ranking, but not sure how long that will be the case.

Also Flames having 2 players show up in the re-draft before their original pick is really positive.

[mile]

https://www.nhl.com/news/calgary-fla...ews_content_id

"To me he's ready to play in the NHL, but I also don't think he can't play too much in the American Hockey League," said Sigalet, who watched Wolf stop 23 of 24 shots in his NHL debut, a 3-1 win against the San Jose Sharks in Calgary's regular-season finale on April 12. "It's a good situation to have to have three really good goalies and three guys who can play.

"What else does he have to prove, right? He's just such a dialed-in, focused, mature kid for his age. Ever since he slipped to the seventh round he has a fire lit under him and he wants to prove everyone wrong and he's continued to do it. [He] did it the first year and everyone probably thought, 'Oh, it's just a fluke, he's not going to do it again,' and then he wins even more awards (the second year). Just a real impressive goalie."

"The one thing is with Dustin is he's such a focused individual," Calgary general manager Craig Conroy said during Flames development camp last month. "He's not worried about where he plays. He just wants to play. There's not that stress of 'He's got to be in the NHL right when camp starts.' He just knows 'I want to play games' and that's the big thing. As you move closer you never know. We'll work through that at our own pace. There's no hurry to do anything."

Still, Wolf understands it'll be his job to force Conroy and Calgary's management group into a tough choice in training camp.

"They know that I'm trying to push the barrier and make things hard on them to make decisions," Wolf said. "That's just been their message -- no matter what happens, if you start up or start down (in the minors) next season that you just keep doing what you're doing and your opportunity is going to come.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

It's a good situation to have to have three really good goalies

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Better than having 3 bad goalies
Remember Johnson/Elliott/Gillies?

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by MrMike

Better than having 3 bad goalies
Remember Johnson/Elliott/Gillies?

Hiller, Ramo, and Ortio for the win.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Not sure where to put this but since it's a bit Markstrom related. No wonder he was having troubles last season when Sutter was using him to send messages to the team for no reason. Thankfully he's gone don't need him to sewer a young player like Wolf.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1694025461142315317

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Not sure where to put this but since it's a bit Markstrom related. No wonder he was having troubles last season when Sutter was using him to send messages to the team for no reason. Thankfully he's gone don't need him to sewer a young player like Wolf.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1694025461142315317

Harsh words from Sutter. Tbf I said virtually the same thing multiple times to the TV last season , but usually the score wasn't 0-0. Lol

[Monahammer]

It irritates me to no end that Sigalet still has some sort of say over our goalies in Calgary.

Also, I reiterate my position that it is mind blowingly stupid to not make room for Wolf on the NHL roster day 1. The reason for this is entirely focused on the relationship with Wolf. We are already talking about another potential superstar who is US born and raised having to re-sign multiple contracts with the club. This is the type of player you take down barriers for. Leaving them in place and making him jump through hoops when we've already seen him do backflips through them just gives him the impression that we don't believe in him enough. Totally foolish.

[FlamesAddiction]

I don't mind the trade and understand why Toffoli wanted to try his luck getting a contract extension somewhere else, but I am going to miss him. Seems like a good guy.

[bax]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

It irritates me to no end that Sigalet still has some sort of say over our goalies in Calgary.

Also, I reiterate my position that it is mind blowingly stupid to not make room for Wolf on the NHL roster day 1. The reason for this is entirely focused on the relationship with Wolf. We are already talking about another potential superstar who is US born and raised having to re-sign multiple contracts with the club. This is the type of player you take down barriers for. Leaving them in place and making him jump through hoops when we've already seen him do backflips through them just gives him the impression that we don't believe in him enough. Totally foolish.

Genuine question, why about Sigalet in his current position bothers you?

Also, Conroy obviously wants to get value in a Vladar trade. He’s not just going to come out and say he needs to find a trade ASAP.

Having the farm team in Calgary and Wolf not being waiver eligible is huge for this exact situation. He can play AHL and NHL games this year. You don’t want him riding the pine for 55 games at 22 years old. I think Conroy has a perfect handle on the situation.

[Jiggy]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Not sure where to put this but since it's a bit Markstrom related. No wonder he was having troubles last season when Sutter was using him to send messages to the team for no reason. Thankfully he's gone don't need him to sewer a young player like Wolf.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1694025461142315317

I was expecting a lot worse. I've heard Darryl Sutter stories from some players and they were nothing compared to this. But they would laugh it off and get motivated by his tactics. Everyone is different.

Bruce Cassidy is hated by most of his team (and his own coaching staff). But a lot of the players realized he would lead them to a cup and he ended up doing it.

Coaching millionaire's is a different ball game. Sitting on the outside with half truths and judging a coach won't get much accomplished.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Jiggy

I was expecting a lot worse. I've heard Darryl Sutter stories from some players and they were nothing compared to this. But they would laugh it off and get motivated by his tactics. Everyone is different.

Butch Cassidy is hated by most of his team (and his own coaching staff). But a lot of the players realized he would lead them to a cup and he ended up doing it.

Coaching millionaire's is a different ball game. Sitting on the outside with half truths and judging a coach won't get much accomplished.

Going after a mentally fragile goalie who you need to get on track doesn't seem like a great tactic to me.

The Winsport stuff is whatever sounds pretty dumb and Sutter trying too hard.

Not sure Vegas hated Butch Cassidy, Boston yes.

This was more about how Markstrom was treated behind the scenes though coming from a player. Who is a Sutter fan himself feeling confused by him doing that.

[dobbles]

Originally Posted by bax

Genuine question, why about Sigalet in his current position bothers you?

Also, Conroy obviously wants to get value in a Vladar trade. He’s not just going to come out and say he needs to find a trade ASAP.

Having the farm team in Calgary and Wolf not being waiver eligible is huge for this exact situation. He can play AHL and NHL games this year. You don’t want him riding the pine for 55 games at 22 years old. I think Conroy has a perfect handle on the situation.

You have one of the best goalie prospects in the entire league, and you want to reduce his playing time so you can get a better return for Dan Vladar? Way to have your priorities straight!

If you want to shuttle Wolf back and forth to the AHL to keep him playing, then you are conceding that you need to keep Vladar as the 3rd goalie for when Wolf is gone. So that is really your strategy?

Way to really show your top prospect how valuable he is. Make him wait to the last game of the season last year to get any playing time. Continue to shuffle him down to the minors this coming year. Really showing confidence in him. Especially considering how mediocre/abysmal the teams goaltending was last season.

You guys crack me up.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by dobbles

You have one of the best goalie prospects in the entire league, and you want to reduce his playing time so you can get a better return for Dan Vladar? Way to have your priorities straight!

If you want to shuttle Wolf back and forth to the AHL to keep him playing, then you are conceding that you need to keep Vladar as the 3rd goalie for when Wolf is gone. So that is really your strategy?

Way to really show your top prospect how valuable he is. Make him wait to the last game of the season last year to get any playing time. Continue to shuffle him down to the minors this coming year. Really showing confidence in him. Especially considering how mediocre/abysmal the teams goaltending was last season.

You guys crack me up.

Oh the goalie development expert is here guys.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by dobbles

You have one of the best goalie prospects in the entire league, and you want to reduce his playing time so you can get a better return for Dan Vladar? Way to have your priorities straight!

People on here would roast Conroy for bad asset management if he just gave away Vladar for nothing.

Ideally you want to trade him before atleast the start of the season but you want to get something back you feel is worth it. Conroy also has to build a reputation of not being a pushover to other GMs.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by dobbles

You have one of the best goalie prospects in the entire league, and you want to reduce his playing time so you can get a better return for Dan Vladar? Way to have your priorities straight!

If you want to shuttle Wolf back and forth to the AHL to keep him playing, then you are conceding that you need to keep Vladar as the 3rd goalie for when Wolf is gone. So that is really your strategy?

Way to really show your top prospect how valuable he is. Make him wait to the last game of the season last year to get any playing time. Continue to shuffle him down to the minors this coming year. Really showing confidence in him. Especially considering how mediocre/abysmal the teams goaltending was last season.

You guys crack me up.

Calgary is in a unique situation in terms of handling this because of the AHL team being here.
At his point in development overall playing time, and exposure to the NHL are equally important. So he can move up and down the AHL to maximize his starts while still getting an appropriate amount of NHL games under his belt.

Tell me what exactly is the problem with that approach?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Not sure where to put this but since it's a bit Markstrom related. No wonder he was having troubles last season when Sutter was using him to send messages to the team for no reason. Thankfully he's gone don't need him to sewer a young player like Wolf.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1694025461142315317

It all makes so much more sense now...

Sutter was playing 'mind-games' with unarmed opponents.

[Reggie Dunlop]

If Vladar is still around at the end of training camp, I'd play him a lot in the early going to see if he rebounds to form. Might improve his trade return.

By early November, teams may run into injuries... you never know.

[dobbles]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Oh the goalie development expert is here guys.

don't be a ######

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Calgary is in a unique situation in terms of handling this because of the AHL team being here.
At his point in development overall playing time, and exposure to the NHL are equally important. So he can move up and down the AHL to maximize his starts while still getting an appropriate amount of NHL games under his belt.

Tell me what exactly is the problem with that approach?

The problem in my mind is that playing him in a league he has dominated is counter productive. If you want him to be an NHL goalie, he needs to be facing NHL players at the NHL pace. Sure goalie is one of the tougher positions in sports as you need to manage the load, but putting him back down is just going to give him bad habits.

Another aspect is that sending him back down really ends a message that he is not valued. He has done everything in his power to earn an NHL roster spot. Again, playing time is important, but so is being with the team permanently. And if the last 18 months is any indication with Markstrom, Wolf may be able to play his way to a lot more games than you guys have planned for him.