[PGT] Knights 3 Flames 2

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Ferarri

And by all accounts players like him in the room and respect him. Sure he’s not the same guy he was but you can tell he brings character.

That's all well and good but, that's Always the Flames MO. Great character guys and no results. That's how we ended up with the Brouwerplay. Without Tkachuk and Gaudreau this franchise is right back to 2012.

[ComixZone]

I’m going to bring this from the GT:

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Huby and Kadri connecting on a goal.

Love it.

Also, I think it’s beyond stupid for people to turn on Kadri and Huberdeau.

115 point winger and Stanley Cup champion from last season come here and everything falls apart for them.

Meanwhile this team has 5 playoff round victories since 1989.

…and it’s the new players that are doing it wrong.

Sutter is a terrible coach (this season).

He is at the core of what went wrong this year, and I hope he’s gone after the next 9 games.

He’s had a great career, but I don’t want him at the core of the next era of this team.

The players absolutely own a lot of this, and a good deal of them should be gone too.

Say goodbye to the coach, and rebuild the roster…I beg you. This isn’t a team, it’s just a bunch of mercenaries.

[BoLevi]

Rhett on After Burner is pure gold.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Should've practiced 3 on 3.....

Season could've been saved just by going .500 beyond regulation.

Never seen a team look so inept with all that open ice.

really though most of the OTLs should have been regulation wins with a save and some finish. There are SO many of them

[memphusk]

We have a core alright. Too bad its the apple core once the apple is eaten.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

Rhett on After Burner is pure gold.

same things he says after every loss I'm sure

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I’m going to bring this from the GT:



Sutter is a terrible coach (this season).

He is at the core of what went wrong this year, and I hope he’s gone after the next 9 games.

He’s had a great career, but I don’t want him at the core of the next era of this team.

The players absolutely own a lot of this, and a good deal of them should be gone too.

Say goodbye to the coach, and rebuild the roster…I beg you.

I don't think this needed to be prefixed.

Is Sutter a good coach or has literally every team he helped had budding and/ or Hall of famers on?.

This is literally the first year in his coaching career he's never had a superstar/ no Brainerd hall of famer on.

Legitimately look at every year he's been a head coach he's had a either a Stat or multiple future hall of famers on his squad.

His teams always have had multiple legitimate game breakers. He dosen't have that any more and his dated 30 year old plus style of play just dosent work anymore.

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by dino7c

same things he says after every loss I'm sure

He is definitely drunk and high every time. (not that there is anything wrong with that Hahaha)

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Sutter's tactics may have worked in the past, but last year he arguably rode three elite players' coat tails, and before that he hasn't really commanded a team to success in 8 years.

He took the wrong approach with these new players, and his antics and poor communication style led to Valimaki packing it in to get shipped elsewhere and our top players tuning out. Didn't bother to build relationships and rapport, which you need to do before you can start giving tough love and passive aggressive punishment.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

I don't think this needed to be prefixed.

Is Sutter a good coach or has literally every team he helped had budding and/ or Hall of famers on?.

This is literally the first year in his coaching career he's never had a superstar/ no Brainerd hall of famer on.

Legitimately look at every year he's been a head coach he's had a either a Stat or multiple future hall of famers on his squad.

Honest Question. Don't most Stanley Cup winning teams have a hall of famer?

[Reggie28]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Should've practiced 3 on 3.....

Season could've been saved just by going .500 beyond regulation.

Never seen a team look so inept with all that open ice.

If they went .500 beyond regulation, they would have an extra 4.5 points. Still on the outside looking in.

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

I don't think this needed to be prefixed.

Is Sutter a good coach or has literally every team he helped had budding and/ or Hall of famers on?.

This is literally the first year in his coaching career he's never had a superstar/ no Brainerd hall of famer on.

Legitimately look at every year he's been a head coach he's had a either a Stat or multiple future hall of famers on his squad.

His teams always have had multiple legitimate game breakers. He dosen't have that any more and his dated 30 year old plus style of play just dosent work anymore.

Newsflash! Good teams have good players!

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by dino7c

can't really count 3 on 3 and SO losses towards how they would potentially do in the playoffs

A team that can't come through when needed is a team that can't come through when needed. This is not a team with players who provide a game-winning edge.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

A team that can't come through when needed is a team that can't come through when needed. This is not a team with players who provide a game-winning edge.

Kadri was amazing 2022 playoffs.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Reggie28

If they went .500 beyond regulation, they would have an extra 4.5 points. Still on the outside looking in.

So rounding up to 5 points.

At 1 point out, I'd bet on them to make it with the remaining schedule.

But not now.

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by zamler

Kadri was amazing 2022 playoffs.

Sure, behind Makar, Mackinnon, Landeskog, and Rantanen. If the Flames had those guys they'd probably be reliably winning more games too.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I feel like this is a pretty bold claim when Johnny Gaudreau went from 99 in 82 to 58 in 70 under different coaches

Ralph Krueger almost turned Jeff Skinner into an AHLer.

Gaudreau’s lack of consistency is what is holding him back from being a true superstar. Blaming it on coaching is a cop out.

Criticize Sutter all you want for his coaching this year but Huberdeau needs to own his performance. If he can’t, you’re never winning anything with that guy.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by memphusk

Honest Question. Don't most Stanley Cup winning teams have a hall of famer?

I guess they do .. but Outside LA which arguably could be considered a stacked theam in retrospect and a Cinderella run in Calgary for 1 year He's never even sniff3d at a cup. Toom a amazing well formed LA team that added many great players at a trade deadline just to get them to the 8th seed .
But Sutter had top stars in Hasek,Balfour, Roenick
San jose he hade ,Marleu Thornton, Nolan.
Calgary , kipper, iginla ,JG,Tkachuk


He dosen't have that anymore. He's still living in the past with play style.

The love of Sutter as a coach in Clagary fans is on pure nostalgia frome 2004 . That's why he was so warmly embraced on his return . It was 21 years ago . We as abase need to let that go. It was 21 years ago !

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

Rhett on After Burner is pure gold.

What is the appeal with these guys? They just rant and rave and offer little to no insight.

It was an entertaining enough morning show. A podcast focused on hockey talk? There’s no substance whatsoever.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

Sure, behind Makar, Mackinnon, Landeskog, and Rantanen. If the Flames had those guys they'd probably be reliably winning more games too.

not really fair...I mean Kadri scored a Stanley Cup Finals OT winner that was basically a chance he created out of nothing
He was one of their most clutch guys. Also one of their best PPG in the regular season.