03-21-2023, 10:48 AM
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#161
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
I never understood why they wear it for warmups only. Any reason behind that?
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I believe it's to have them worn and autographed to auction off.
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03-21-2023, 02:18 PM
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#162
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Powerplay Quarterback
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The organization has generally been fairly forward thinking about these types of issues, but this one in particular owes a lot to Brian Burke (in and outside of Calgary).
I noticed a change in how the CSEC engages with the community during/after his tenure here.
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03-21-2023, 02:46 PM
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#163
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sketchyt
The organization has generally been fairly forward thinking about these types of issues, but this one in particular owes a lot to Brian Burke (in and outside of Calgary).
I noticed a change in how the CSEC engages with the community during/after his tenure here.
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This cause is obviously important to him, but he also talked about in book that community service is mandatory when he brings players in.
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03-21-2023, 04:27 PM
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#164
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
This cause is obviously important to him, but he also talked about in book that community service is mandatory when he brings players in.
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And in the same book he noted that of all places he had been, Calgary was the one he had to do the least in, as it had the strongest community endeavours of any team. Long before Burkie arrived each player did community service here.
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03-22-2023, 06:15 PM
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#165
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I believe it's to have them worn and autographed to auction off.
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I don't understand the connection. They have washing machines. The jerseys can't be laundered after the game?
FWIW the Inferno had amazing Pride coloured jerseys which were worn during the game and then auctioned off afterwards.
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03-22-2023, 06:23 PM
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#166
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Originally Posted by craigwd
I don't understand the connection. They have washing machines. The jerseys can't be laundered after the game?
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Not every player plays but they all skate in warm up.
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03-22-2023, 07:03 PM
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#167
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toonage
Not every player plays but they all skate in warm up.
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Again, I don't see the connection. They can still make a jersey for a scratched player.
Are they worried some schmo is going to be upset that the jersey he donated money towards, didn't actually touch the ice????
Again, the scratched Infernos still had Pride and DIFD jerseys made up and auctioned off.
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03-22-2023, 07:19 PM
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#168
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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The Blackhawks are cancelling their pride jerseys due to worries about the Russian players.
I don't know if I buy that. Couldn't those players just sit out the warmup?
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03-22-2023, 07:20 PM
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#169
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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03-22-2023, 07:47 PM
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#170
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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'Security concerns'? So, now what some arse -backwards people in Russia believe in dictates what we do over here. That is so sad, and pathetic.
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03-22-2023, 08:18 PM
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#171
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Red Deer
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Lol, what a crock.
Just admit you don't want the headache of having to deal with potential bigots either on your roster or within the NHL fanbase.
Too bad a group of selfish members had to ruin the other thread because I still think this overall trend of exclusion is worth discussing.
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03-22-2023, 09:15 PM
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#172
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Lifetime Suspension
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Should we ban Russian players due to security risks to the league?
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03-22-2023, 09:22 PM
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#173
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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I’ve seen Obie wearing warmups honouring the US military. Surely that would be more offensive to the Russian government.
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03-22-2023, 09:26 PM
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#174
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Scoring Winger
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If the Blackhawks simply didn’t want to do a Pride night, they should have just not done it. But to come out and say it’s because of security concerns for Russian players, has to be some sort of grade A p*ssy stuff.
Since when does some laws in an authoritarian regime dictate the policies of a professional hockey club and what events they put on? They didn’t have any issue having a night showing support for Ukraine. Just some very strange logic applied here and fed to the public. I hope they get raked over this.
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03-22-2023, 09:33 PM
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#175
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My face is a bum!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
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Lol, this is totally "if we don't ____, the terrorists have won", except this one is ok to that crowd.
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03-23-2023, 09:32 AM
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#176
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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What do you expect form the franchise that didn't punish anyone for using homophobic slurs against a sexual assault victim.
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03-23-2023, 09:42 AM
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#177
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Franchise Player
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That's a bad look for the NHL and the Hawks.
####ing Russia dictating from 10,000 kms away what we should be doing? Get out of here.
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03-23-2023, 09:45 AM
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#178
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Shanghai
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
What do you expect form the franchise that didn't punish anyone for using homophobic slurs against a sexual assault victim.
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This kind of stuff is way more important than the pride night stuff.
I like things like pride night, but they're marketing events as much as anything else. Of course a business wants everyone to feel comfortable being their customer, but it doesn't mean they care about everyone being treated fairly. If they won't support people in cases of real harm, they don't really care.
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03-23-2023, 09:47 AM
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#179
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I've been part of many multinational organizations and involved in these initiatives. However, these were clearly voluntary. There was never a fuss or any question created around someone's participation or lack thereof. That's how we thought we were fostering a truly inclusive environment. There were never any issues.
Now- sports team- why can't it be voluntary? Teams/League should just state participation is voluntary. There ends the argument (atleast in my head).
This whole situation of entire teams deciding not to do it is more harmful than a handful of players not doing it. And those players that don't do it shouldn't be subjected to answer to media or anyone. It's ridiculous. It's like if my coworkers who didn't participate had to stand in front of the management team on Monday morning for a flogging in front of the entire world. That's crazy to me.
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03-23-2023, 10:02 AM
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#180
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gvitaly
As I've been saying all along I'm not offended by pride night. I don't care one way or another about having it. What I do mind is the mind set that anyone who doesn't support it is an idiot, a homophobe, a transphobe, or w.e. I didn't like the backlash that Provorov got for skipping warmup. I don't like the fact that people are saying he has a freedom only as long as he agrees with them.
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Provorov has the freedom the skip pride night if he wants. Just like everyone else has the freedom to criticize his antiquated views.
This isn’t hard.
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