Any knife enthusiasts?

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

You can buy guns at Canadian tire too, that doesn't mean they are allowed in National Parks.
I'm telling you, they are 100% illegal in the park:
https://publications.gc.ca/collectio...4-2021-eng.pdf
Pay special attention to the "Firearms and Hunting" section of that.

And the dude who was upset is right.
They aren't for preemptively "Clearing" an area, they are for using when there is a bear around.

Is it a dick move/dumb thing to do? Maybe, your results may vary.
Is it illegal to even have them in a National Park. 100% yes.

Do you think it's illegal to possess them in a park or just to use them? I'm probably okay with not clearing the path when I'm hiking in a national park, but I still want them on me to shoot at bears if I have a close encounter.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Do you think it's illegal to possess them in a park or just to use them? I'm probably okay with not clearing the path when I'm hiking in a national park, but I still want them on me to shoot at bears if I have a close encounter.

I don't think anything.
They are explicitly mentioned as prohibited in the link I gave you.

[sketchyt]

Originally Posted by Wormius

It might literally be worth buying tickets to Tokyo and going to the kitchen district.

Not a knife enthusiast but I recently did this! Super interesting area. Bought a knife that came out to about $130 CAD from here.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

I don't think anything.
They are explicitly mentioned as prohibited in the link I gave you.

Your link doesn't work.

[2Stonedbirds]

Originally Posted by Sliver

The one I liked was kind of mint green with a black blade. https://www.benchmade.com/products/5370bk-07

I wanted a knife that wasn't black because basically my whole collection is black handled. Didn't even set out to do that...I just like black knives, apparently.

Weird. Other than color, mines identical. Maybe they jacked the prices up

[bdubbs]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

You can buy guns at Canadian tire too, that doesn't mean they are allowed in National Parks.
I'm telling you, they are 100% illegal in the park:
https://publications.gc.ca/collectio...4-2021-eng.pdf
Pay special attention to the "Firearms and Hunting" section of that.

And the dude who was upset is right.
They aren't for preemptively "Clearing" an area, they are for using when there is a bear around.

Is it a dick move/dumb thing to do? Maybe, your results may vary.
Is it illegal to even have them in a National Park. 100% yes.

Not that I don't think Sliver is crazy for wanting to carry a spear, and you're right about the bear bangers, but the PDF does not indicate anything about the legality of carrying a spear there....

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Your link doesn't work.

It works for me, and apparently for bdubbs.
But yeah, bear bangers are definitely illegal in the parks.
If the link doesn't work, I presume you have access to google.
I'm legitimately just trying to save you some headaches.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by bdubbs

Not that I don't think Sliver is crazy for wanting to carry a spear, and you're right about the bear bangers, but the PDF does not indicate anything about the legality of carrying a spear there....

I never said it did...

[Sliver]

Probably best if it doesn't work for me. Not much they can do if I don't even know.

[Locke]

Wheres that meme?

Can't we just leave the Bears alone? All they want are our Pic-a-nic baskets!

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Do you think it's illegal to possess them in a park or just to use them? I'm probably okay with not clearing the path when I'm hiking in a national park, but I still want them on me to shoot at bears if I have a close encounter.

You know you don’t shoot them at bears right? I assume “AT” isn’t meant to be literal

You shoot them vertically above you or behind you. The goal is that the bear runs away from the sound. If you shoot at a bear it will go past the bear so when it explodes the noise will scare the bear towards you.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by GGG

You know you don’t shoot them at bears right? I assume “AT” isn’t meant to be literal

You shoot them vertically above you or behind you. The goal is that the bear runs away from the sound. If you shoot at a bear it will go past the bear so when it explodes the noise will scare the bear towards you.

When I'm clearing the trails I shoot straight up to get them all to scatter.

If faced with one I'd aim for his mouth while he roars. It's a gamble for sure, but I've gotten pretty good with these things. If he does charge, well, that's where the spear comes in.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by Sliver

When I'm clearing the trails I shoot straight up to get them all to scatter.

If faced with one I'd aim for his mouth while he roars. It's a gamble for sure, but I've gotten pretty good with these things. If he does charge, well, that's where the spear comes in.

Jesus dude, you can't be serious....

[Locke]

Originally Posted by GGG

You know you don’t shoot them at bears right? I assume “AT” isn’t meant to be literal

You shoot them vertically above you or behind you. The goal is that the bear runs away from the sound. If you shoot at a bear it will go past the bear so when it explodes the noise will scare the bear towards you.

What? You want to surround their legs with wires? You need some really small snow-speeders and who is going to fly them?

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Probably best if it doesn't work for me. Not much they can do if I don't even know.

You know what they say, ignorance is 9/10ths of the law! I think that's what they say, anyway.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

Jesus dude, you can't be serious....

Dude, I mean, there are so many ways a bear attack could play out. It's not like I can guarantee I'd do that. If he was 40 yards away, that's pretty far and I'd shoot it straight up. If he was roaring 10' away from me? Fkn rights I'm going to blast it down his pie hole. I keep my bear banger clipped to my backpack shoulder strap loaded on every hike I do. It's always ready.

I don't get how this is so befuddling to you? Bear bangers are sold in every outdoor store in Canada. You're acting like I invented this as a means of defending myself against bears and I'm crazy or something. They are a thing and they do work. Have you ever watched that show Alone? One guy used one in that and it totally worked.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Dude, I mean, there are so many ways a bear attack could play out. It's not like I can guarantee I'd do that. If he was 40 yards away, that's pretty far and I'd shoot it straight up. If he was roaring 10' away from me? Fkn rights I'm going to blast it down his pie hole. I keep my bear banger clipped to my backpack shoulder strap loaded on every hike I do. It's always ready.

I don't get how this is so befuddling to you? Bear bangers are sold in every outdoor store in Canada. You're acting like I invented this as a means of defending myself against bears and I'm crazy or something. They are a thing and they do work. Have you ever watched that show Alone? One guy used one in that and it totally worked.

No. No I have not.

I have, however, hiked and camped quite a bit in bear country. I've seen dozens of black bears, and a few Grizzlies, and I've used bear bangers to varying degrees of success. Sometimes they run, sometimes they don't even flinch. But, they can be a great tool when used properly.

I cannot stress this enough, trying to shoot a bear in the mouth is not using it properly.

You know what would probably work a lot better if a bear is 10' away? Bear spray...the thing invented for exactly that purpose.

You have some very misguided ideas of what bear encounters are like, and what to do in the event you're actually involved in one.

For your own safety, get, carry, and learn how/when to use bear spray, and how/when to properly use bear bangers.

For your own legal protection, leave the bear bangers at home when you're going to a National Park, because carrying them in the park is 100% illegal.
You want to carry them outside a national park? Awesome, they're totally legal in that case, and as I said, can be a great tool.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

No. No I have not.

I have, however, hiked and camped quite a bit in bear country. I've seen dozens of black bears, and a few Grizzlies, and I've used bear bangers to varying degrees of success. Sometimes they run, sometimes they don't even flinch. But, they can be a great tool when used properly.

I cannot stress this enough, trying to shoot a bear in the mouth is not using it properly.

You know what would probably work a lot better if a bear is 10' away? Bear spray...the thing invented for exactly that purpose.

You have some very misguided ideas of what bear encounters are like, and what to do in the event you're actually involved in one.

For your own safety, get, carry, and learn how/when to use bear spray, and how/when to properly use bear bangers.

For your own legal protection, leave the bear bangers at home when you're going to a National Park, because carrying them in the park is 100% illegal.

You're giving off real future "Local man charged with..." or "Local man injured while...." vibes with this whole conversation.

Dude I have bear spray and I even bought an inert can to practice. I guarantee I think and plan for bear encounters more than anyone. I'm the exact guy you'd want by you if a bear attacked.

You'd seriously rather have no spear than a spear if a bear was attacking you? That's ridiculous. It seriously makes no sense. I wouldn't wish a bear attack on anybody, of course, but if anybody is sitting here reading this I really hope you think back on how dumb you thought carrying a spear was while you're getting mauled by a bear trying to fend it off with your fingernails. I mean, come on. I'm not sure if you're trolling or what at this point.

But anyway, I only posted because that spear is back in stock and I thought some people would be interested since this is the knife enthusiast thread.

I will try to find a link that works on the bear bangers in the park. I'll probably hide it better than clipping it to the outside of my shoulder strap at the very least, so I appreciate your insight there.

[Fuzz]

https://publications.gc.ca/collectio...4-2021-eng.pdf


it's in the bottom left text box. You will have to click "continue to publication" before the pdf opens.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Dude I have bear spray and I even bought an inert can to practice. I guarantee I think and plan for bear encounters more than anyone. I'm the exact guy you'd want by you if a bear attacked.

You'd seriously rather have no spear than a spear if a bear was attacking you? That's ridiculous. It seriously makes no sense. I wouldn't wish a bear attack on anybody, of course, but if anybody is sitting here reading this I really hope you think back on how dumb you thought carrying a spear was while you're getting mauled by a bear trying to fend it off with your fingernails. I mean, come on. I'm not sure if you're trolling or what at this point.

But anyway, I only posted because that spear is back in stock and I thought some people would be interested since this is the knife enthusiast thread.

I will try to find a link that works on the bear bangers in the park. I'll probably hide it better than clipping it to the outside of my shoulder strap at the very least, so I appreciate your insight there.

I mean, you do you man, but if I was going to walk around a national park with a prohibited item (Bear banger), I probably wouldn't double down by carrying an item (spear) that, legal or not, will pretty much guarantee any CO you run across will start asking questions and taking a closer look at you.