09-10-2021, 01:59 PM
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#162
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Barthelona
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How is he getting paid 1.2 million more than Stone??
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09-10-2021, 02:02 PM
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#163
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Franchise Player
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Earlier this week we signed a guy to a 2 year, one way deal. And immediately bump him two slots down the depth chart so that absent a move, someone is earning an NHL salary in the A.
It’s not my money but someone explain to me how that is evidence of a coherent plan?
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09-10-2021, 02:03 PM
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#164
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus
I knew Treliving was a bad GM after his repeated terrible FA signings and complete inaction to address the scoring issues for 2+ years, but these recent moves (Richardson, Stone and Gudbranson) put him squarely in the worst GM in the league position.
The Flames are in BIG trouble for the foreseeable future with this guy running the show.
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Why do you keep repeating the sub bury level signings as an issue? They're not.
Stone and Richardson are not and will not be a problem in any way.
Gudbranson at $2M however? No clue what they're thinking there. Hard no for me.
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09-10-2021, 02:03 PM
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#165
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Franchise Player
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Well at least we're pretty much capped out now so there shouldn't be anymore of these signings.
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09-10-2021, 02:03 PM
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#166
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Mass_nerder
How is he getting paid 1.2 million more than Stone??
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...and yes, they all suck.
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09-10-2021, 02:03 PM
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#167
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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I wonder how these negotations went. Like, what kind of leverage does Erik frigging Gudbranson have to get the Flames to shell out almost 2 million? Madness.
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09-10-2021, 02:04 PM
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#168
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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Originally Posted by devo22
I wonder how these negotations went. Like, what kind of leverage does Erik frigging Gudbranson have to get the Flames to shell out almost 2 million? Madness.
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Yup. Very embarrassing
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09-10-2021, 02:04 PM
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#169
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Hate the salary but its 1 year and hopefully he's benched often so won't get over riled up.
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09-10-2021, 02:06 PM
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#170
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Bingo
Why do you keep repeating the sub bury level signings as an issue? They're not.
Stone and Richardson are not and will not be a problem in any way.
Gudbranson at $2M however? No clue what they're thinking there. Hard no for me.
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They are ai problem if they are the best players you can trot out on the ice and they’re not very good.
Was Rinaldo an issue last year? I sure thought he was, every single shift he was on the ice. A bigger problem than your top line getting caved in? No.
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09-10-2021, 02:06 PM
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#171
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: Calgary
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We couldn't have landed Vatanen at that price?
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09-10-2021, 02:07 PM
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#172
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Port Coquitlam, BC
Exp:  
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I mean, he may not be wrong?
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09-10-2021, 02:09 PM
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#173
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Unless the plan was to
A) keep the pick to use in landing a big fish or
B) Know you aren't going to be any good and want to keep it for potential lottery purposes
I'd still let Gio walk, but this isn't how I would spend the cap
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09-10-2021, 02:09 PM
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#174
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Scoring Winger
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Except we need our first for forward acquisition. We’re not done yet
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09-10-2021, 02:09 PM
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#175
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First Line Centre
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But then we lost a first
Gio is gonna be 38, giving up a first for him would be foolish. Was anyone thinking that the 3rd was what was holding the Flames back?
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09-10-2021, 02:11 PM
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#176
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Strange Brew
They are ai problem if they are the best players you can trot out on the ice and they’re not very good.
Was Rinaldo an issue last year? I sure thought he was, every single shift he was on the ice. A bigger problem than your top line getting caved in? No.
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If said player is in the way of a promising prospect then he's not in the way because his contract can be buried. It's a simple insurance policy.
If you want to change the topic to the fact that there likely isn't a forward or dman that will kick the door down then fine.
If you want to change the topic to the fact that the upper roster (core) isn't all that good, then fine.
But adding a guy that can be waived and not effect your cap is the last thing anyone should be complaining about.
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09-10-2021, 02:16 PM
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#177
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Truculent!
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I can't quite definitively say it quiiiiiiiiiiite yet, but, Treliving might not be so good at this GMing thing....
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09-10-2021, 02:16 PM
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#178
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Okay you know. I really was having a little optimism that this group of team builders were at least trying to do things right. Sometimes missing or failing, but trying.
This is a terrible use of cap space and roster spot.
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09-10-2021, 02:18 PM
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#179
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Airdrie, AB
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Originally Posted by Larry David
I mean, he may not be wrong? 
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How about accepting the reality that with or without gio this team needs a huge shakeup and possibly a rebuild and neither spend assets to keep gio or spend our cap dollars on players that don't make us better?
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09-10-2021, 02:20 PM
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#180
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Franchise Player
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If we were going to give $2M to a crappy dman, it should at least be a crappy offensive dman who can man the PP.
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