07-23-2021, 03:11 PM
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#161
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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At the end of the day the Canucks view OEL as having value. They said it last year, that they expect a change of scenery away from the tire fire that Arizona has been behind the scenes will give OEL a renewed lease on life.
Is that true? Probably not.
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07-23-2021, 03:11 PM
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#162
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Lifetime Suspension
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Again... do you think you're contending next year or what?
Some kind of all-in, short term splurge this is, at a huge long term & futures cost.
I guess Benning doesn't have to worry about the team in 3-6 years because he won't be there.
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07-23-2021, 03:11 PM
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#163
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blankall
Garland is going to demand 5+ years. He's also undersized and streaky. If he doesn't live up to his contract, this has the potential to cripple the Nucks. This is insanely risky IMO. I mean this could work out....but it also could leave Vancouver with $12+ million in dead cap for many years to come.
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I have never wanted Lanny_McDonald to be right so much as I do with regards to his assessment of Garland.
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07-23-2021, 03:12 PM
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#164
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#1 Goaltender
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So apparently Bill Armstrong really is the GM that Arizona has needed all these years.
What an amazing week for Arizona.
Well. F******. Done.
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07-23-2021, 03:12 PM
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#165
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Kind of surprised there wasn't a Holtby for Kuemper swap in there too
And Fin for whatever the hell their mascot is called
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07-23-2021, 03:13 PM
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#166
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blankall
Garland is going to demand 5+ years. He's also undersized and streaky. If he doesn't live up to his contract, this has the potential to cripple the Nucks. This is insanely risky IMO. I mean this could work out....but it also could leave Vancouver with $12+ million in dead cap for many years to come.
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Yeah, I think Garland is a piece that a team thinking they are about to contend adds. A younger Kessel, or Pageau.
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07-23-2021, 03:14 PM
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#167
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
They weren’t going anywhere before. Now they are with a purpose.
They get rid of an albatross contract and also gain a top 10 pick, basically recuperating the stupid decisions by Chayka. What more could you want from a new GM trying to get this team in the right direction?
Sucks for the Coyotes to lose Garland but it likely has to happen to get the team to a better place long term.
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Arizona seems to be gathering a whole flock of albatrosses
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07-23-2021, 03:15 PM
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#168
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL
So apparently Bill Armstrong really is the GM that Arizona has needed all these years.
What an amazing week for Arizona.
Well. F******. Done.
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Buffalo and Arizona looking to storm out of their years of futility with competent management.
They just have to nail their picks this year, and keep their eyes on those '22 and '23 drafts as well.
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07-23-2021, 03:15 PM
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#169
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Arizona is having a wicked offseason.
OUT:
Conor Garland
OEL (1m retained)
IN:
2021 pick 9
2021 2nd
2022 2nd
2022 2nd
2022 2nd
Cond. 2023 3rd
2022 7th
2023 7th
Shayne Gostisbehere
Antoine Roussel
Andrew Ladd
Loui Eriksson
Jay Beagle
They took on a few short-term bad contracts, added a really interesting player in Gostisbehere, retained $1m on the awful OEL deal they desperately needed to move, traded a guy in Garland who was at odds on a contract...
... And added a flat-out ridiculous number of draft picks.
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07-23-2021, 03:15 PM
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#171
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
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And remember while it was reported that OEL was willing to consider other destinations this year, he probably was still only going to waive for VAN or BOS.
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07-23-2021, 03:15 PM
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#172
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djsFlames
I guess Benning doesn't have to worry about the team in 3-6 years because he won't be there.
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He should already have been fired last year. This mess is the result of him having handed out all those terrible UFA deals to replacement level players, first of all, and that was clear last summer... but how does the Toffoli deal not break the camel's back? Guy makes bad decisions when he's signing UFAs and bad decisions when he doesn't.
Treliving must be overjoyed, he looks so competent by comparison.
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07-23-2021, 03:16 PM
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#173
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First Line Centre
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Do we have any overpaid garbage to trade away? Seems as though there’s a run on guys like that today.
Buchnevich was probably the best name player to be traded today, and he arguably got the worst return.
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07-23-2021, 03:16 PM
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#174
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Franchise Player
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Sadly, I like this trade for Vancouver. The last few years of OEL's contract will obviously be a giant albatross, but for now at least, they are way batter for the same cap hit (this year anyway). Put me in the camp that says OEL will be better (or maybe lore accurately, less bad) in a better environment.
By no means does this deal solve their cap problems beyond this year though, in fact it makes them worse.
Plus, a high 1st and a 2nd in a deep draft? Big price to pay.
But Garland will really add to their top 6.
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07-23-2021, 03:16 PM
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#175
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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So Calgary bemoans the fact their long time 38 year old captain had to be exposed and taken in the ED. AZ signs OEL to a huge contract at 27, makes him captain and then 3 years later gets him to waive his NMC, sells him off and cheers mightily for shedding his salary.
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07-23-2021, 03:16 PM
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#176
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Yeah, I think Garland is a piece that a team thinking they are about to contend adds. A younger Kessel, or Pageau.
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I'm just not 100% sold on him. He had a good season last year, but he was also getting as many as 22 minutes a night on a not deep team. I could see him being the type of player who production nosedives as soon as he has to compete for chances in a deeper roster. With his lack of physical game, he's useless if not scoring.
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07-23-2021, 03:16 PM
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#177
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Edmonton,AB
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Wow isn't that a ton to give up for oel?
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07-23-2021, 03:16 PM
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#178
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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I don't mind this for the Canucks. Yotes sure have a ton of useless cap now lol
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07-23-2021, 03:16 PM
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#179
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geeoff
Arizona seems to be gathering a whole flock of albatrosses
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None with any significant term while bringing in an absolute dump truck of draft picks moving forward.
Bill Armstrong is doing EXACTLY what that organization needed after Chayka put them in hell.
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07-23-2021, 03:17 PM
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#180
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Franchise Player
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This seems like
A bunch of short-term crap for a really large single piece of long-term crap
And then 9th overall for Garland
That's about it right?
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