Rumour: Blake Coleman to Calgary - Page 9 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

SuperMatt18 · 07-23-2021, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Bingo

I honestly don't think this guy is very plugged in.

I don't have a clue if this is true or not, but we have several teams talking to UFAs with permission across the league (likely some without permission as well)

It's like he literally missed that NYR had agreed to a contract with Goodrow, then traded for his rights, then signed him.

mrdonkey · 07-23-2021, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Wood

Are you really gonna argue with Bongo over what deserves a thread on his own website?

If it isn't thread worthy, it'll fall off the front page

fyp

sureLoss · 07-23-2021, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

It's like he literally missed that NYR had agreed to a contract with Goodrow, then traded for his rights, then signed him.

Where was it reported that he agreed to a contract before the trade?

Bonded · 07-23-2021, 11:26 AM

Wrong thread

SuperMatt18 · 07-23-2021, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by sureLoss

Where was it reported that he agreed to a contract before the trade?

I thought the 6 x $3.6M was rumoured when the trade was made on Saturday...so I'm assuming they must have had agreed before hand.

the_only_turek_fan · 07-23-2021, 11:29 AM

I don’t believe it not because of Joe Smith but I have a hard time believing a player like that would come here.

I could see the Kraken but why Calgary?

GioforPM · 07-23-2021, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by sureLoss

Well to be fair Hyman has been given permission to talk to other teams.

No reports that any of the TBL UFAs have been given permission to talk to other teams.

I'm assuming this rumour assumes that. I don't think they usually announce these things, unless the team in possession wants to attract m,ore buyers.

ricardodw · 07-23-2021, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bingo

Two players the same age.

Both probably decline in roughly 3-4 seasons.

The guy with more term left and more dollars per year will be the worse contract at that point, so I disagree that you couldn't trade Coleman for Hyman at that point if their declines are similar.

They likely will have Calgary and Edmonton on their respective No trade lists.

sureLoss · 07-23-2021, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I thought the 6 x $3.6M was rumoured when the trade was made on Saturday...so I'm assuming they must have had agreed before hand.

The trade was on Saturday and the contract details was put out on Monday during the roster freeze.

Bingo · 07-23-2021, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ricardodw

They likely will have Calgary and Edmonton on their respective No trade lists.

So you're changing the argument?

Textcritic · 07-23-2021, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

I don’t believe it not because of Joe Smith but I have a hard time believing a player like that would come here.

I could see the Kraken but why Calgary?

I think it is abundantly clear by now that by-and-large a lot of NHL players do not share the same feelings as fans about one market over another, nor about how they evaluate a given hockey team. On the one hand, most fans are not experts when it comes to evaluating teams, potential and talent. But on the other hand, neither are NHL players. for all we know Blake Coleman actually believes that the Flames are going to be a highly competitive team in the short-term.

SuperMatt18 · 07-23-2021, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by sureLoss

The trade was on Saturday and the contract details was put out on Monday during the roster freeze.

My bad. For whatever reason I thought it was all on Monday.

Either way I'd be surprised if Tampa was against it.

Freeway · 07-23-2021, 11:36 AM

I am so confused right now.

InternationalVillager · 07-23-2021, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Freeway

I am so confused right now.

Same. Original tweet is deleted as well.

Moneyhands23 · 07-23-2021, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Freeway

I am so confused right now.

Probably best to have a beer and go play golf today lol

sureLoss · 07-23-2021, 11:42 AM

Originator of the rumor is retracting that Coleman will sign with the Flames for sure.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1418615970214465537

genetic_phreek · 07-23-2021, 11:44 AM

sureLoss · 07-23-2021, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

My bad. For whatever reason I thought it was all on Monday.

Either way I'd be surprised if Tampa was against it.

Yeah there are generally two ways to do UFA rights trades.

1. Soft agreement. GM gives permission for other teams to talk to pending UFA with the condition that if team gets to a point where they feel really confident they can sign the UFA they agree to give compensation and the trade is made.

2. Hard agreement. GM straight up says no negotiations before trade. Teams have to gamble if they can sign him before free agency happens (not accounting for tampering

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Not sure which Tampa is doing.

TheKurgan · 07-23-2021, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

Probably best to have a beer and go play golf today lol

Lets be honest, that is ALWAYS the best thing to do

Freeway · 07-23-2021, 11:48 AM

Tampa knew they wouldn't be able to re-sign Goodrow due to their massive cap issues and got a seventh rounder for letting the Rangers talk to him early.