[Trade] Duncan Keith (no retention) + Tim Soderlund to EDM for Caleb Jones + cond. 2022 2nd

[kyuss275]

Having a typical “blah” Monday work day. See this news and I got pep in my step like it’s Friday afternoon. Great work Oilers!!

[Jacks]

oiler fans: "we have tons of cap room finally, should be much better next year!!"
Reality: Holland swaps Barrie for Keith hahaha

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

I don't think players are lining up to play in Edmonton.

Keith makes the PP better and can eat 2nd pairing minutes behind Nurse.

It's expensive insurance against Klefbom not playing.

1) Keith will not be better than Barrie was on the PP

2) No, Keith cannot "eat up" 2nd pairing minutes.

Keith's partner is probably going to be Bear (assuming they re-sign Larsson or sign a replacement for him, to play with Nurse). Keith and Bear would be an absolutely horrific 2nd pair.

[cowtown75]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

K even if you put your feelings on the player to the side for a second....what I don't get is why you are making this deal now.

There is clearly no other market for Keith here, and he is limiting where the wants to play (sounds like the only options are Seattle or Edmonton).

You aren't getting a sweetheart deal or any type of retention from Chicago.

So why do this before the Draft / Free Agency opens. Keith for a 3rd in 2022 is probably still there on August 1st if you want to do it.

This ^ Nailed it !

[neo45]

Can we talk about the insane amount of picks Holland has traded with getting nothing back?

Death by a thousand cuts going on in Edmonton right now

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Even Staples isn't feeling this:


David Staples
@dstaples
Hard to see this as anything but a massive overpay by the Oilers, at least if you go by Keith's advanced age, 1st-pairing d-man salary & major drop in point scoring production.
That said, I haven't watched Keith closely and don't trust iffy stats analysis where he shows poorly.

lol. Stats say he sucks but we traded for him, therefore they must be wrong.

[Rejean31]

Originally Posted by dino7c

So Barrie had 48 points plus 4 and is replaced with Keith 15 points -13 for way more money and assets

on a team that didn't win a playoff game

Why didn’t those idiots just take the 5.5 million and re-sign Tyson Barrie?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Locke

I dont even know what you're trying to say.

This season was the definition of a statistical outlier. Of course Smith isnt going to repeat, for a multitude of obvious reasons. Neither is McDavid or Draisaitl....

Frankly, this season was only played at all because of contractual obligation. Some players/teams capitalized, others didnt. But I'm putting zero stock in anything that happened this season.

Its an outlier. An aberration.

I am saying everything went perfect for the Oilers and they still got swept in the first round...they are a bubble team IMO

lets hope they miss and McDavid demands a trade

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Even Staples isn't feeling this:


David Staples
@dstaples
Hard to see this as anything but a massive overpay by the Oilers, at least if you go by Keith's advanced age, 1st-pairing d-man salary & major drop in point scoring production.
That said, I haven't watched Keith closely and don't trust iffy stats analysis where he shows poorly.

So the upside is he hasn't watched him therefore the underlying stats are not to be trusted?

Lol

He actually started sensible, but couldn't resist packing some stupid in at the end.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

If I were the Oilers, I would let Larsson/Smith walk.

Use the $10M to add some other impact player. Ride with Koskinen/Stalock in net.

I think users here overplaying Oilers cap space issues. Next year they have a whopping $32M+ in cap space after you account for Keith with only Nurse/Starting Goalie to sign.

That cap space is great but looking at 2022/23 and they have:

No goalies signed.

Keith, Bouchard, Broberg signed for d-men.

McDavid, Draisaitl, Neal, RNH, Kassian, Shore signed for forwards.

So they have $32M but need to sign 2 goalies, 4 d-men, and 8 forwards (Neal/Shore aren't everyday NHLers). $2.3M per open spot isn't that great. Epescially when you truly need to fill at least 2 top 6 forwards spots, and probably 3 out of 4 of your top 6 on defense.

It's great to have space but you still need bodies and to have guys fill those spots.

I guess the positive is when McDavid asks for a trade next year they will have space to take back a pick package that includes NHLers since they will have the cap and roster room.

[neo45]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

So the upside is he hasn't watched him therefore the underlying stats are not to be trusted?

Lol

He actually started sensible, but couldn't resist packing some stupid in at the end.

It’s always funny when people bash “advanced stats” and then ask what they mean like 30 seconds later

But it’s even funnier if they haven’t watched the player and still reject any metric suggesting the player they haven’t watched is bad

[drewtastic]

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Even Staples isn't feeling this:


David Staples
@dstaples
Hard to see this as anything but a massive overpay by the Oilers, at least if you go by Keith's advanced age, 1st-pairing d-man salary & major drop in point scoring production.
That said, I haven't watched Keith closely and don't trust iffy stats analysis where he shows poorly.

I can't wait until Keith gets a few points early in the season for Staples inevitable article detailing why the Oilers won the trade.

[dino7c]

Having cap space and no assets just means you are going to overpay every player...especially in Edmonton

the narrative has already switched from "Oilerz have tons of cap this summer" to "you just wait until 2 summers from now"

in the blink of an eye

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

HAHAHAHA. Only way it would be better is if Keith doesn't waive his NMC for the expansion draft

Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger
No salary retained in Keith trade to Oilers. Jones and a 3rd back to Chicago.

I'm having a hard time deciding if it would be funnier if Seattle took him and the greasers lost the 2 assets for nothing. I doubt Keith waives though.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I can't wait until Keith gets a few points early in the season for Staples inevitable article detailing why the Oilers won the trade.

You know that's a guarantee right?

It may take as little as a one point game.

He's forecasted more with less.

[dino7c]

Oilers will protect Keith...its not like they are hurtin' for protection spots

[Reggie Dunlop]

Once again... The Edmonton Oilers are the hilarious, feel-good comedy hit of the summer!

[topfiverecords]

Oilers must still be thinking there’s a taxi squad they can waive players to in order to win a trade.

[CroFlames]

Did someone hack Staples' account? What is this objective thought nonsense.

His password is probably Oilers99 or IloveWayne