20/21 Norris finalists. Fox, Makar, Hedman. UPD: Fox wins

[Enoch Root]

Simple solution: make the rights 5 years, instead of 4

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Simple solution: make the rights 5 years, instead of 4

sure, but since it's collectively bargained, the owners would have to give up something too.

Players aren't interested in limiting player movement.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

sure, but since it's collectively bargained, the owners would have to give up something too.

Players aren't interested in limiting player movement.

Well yeah, but both the owners and the players get some things they want in each deal. That's how it works. It's not like this would be the only item on the table.

[Cycling76er]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

"Loophole" AKA The current CBA with respect to college players

I was hoping for a bit more than that. o__o

Like, when you draft a player and they're in University, they can just sit there and "wait it out" or something then sign wherever they want?

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by Cycling76er

I was hoping for a bit more than that. o__o

Like, when you draft a player and they're in University, they can just sit there and "wait it out" or something then sign wherever they want?

Correct.

Players that are drafted and go to college only have their rights held by the drafting team X months following graduation. After that they become free agents.

There are similar clauses for players playing overseas and even players in the CHL

Article 8 of the CBA

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Well yeah, but both the owners and the players get some things they want in each deal. That's how it works. It's not like this would be the only item on the table.

its like the LTIR discussion with TB.

Does this happen often enough for it to be enough of a problem for the owners to give up something to change it?

Based on history, Fox's situation is pretty rare...with maybe a dozen kids doing it in the last 20 years...of all of them, Wheeler and Fox are the only ones of consequence...

the ratio of that compared to the number of draft picks made is pretty low.

Now, if more guys start to do this, then maybe enough owners would be motivated to make that change.

My prediction is that nothing will happen, because it doesn't happen very often....Now if Owen Power decides to finish and graduate from Michigan, then you might raise some eyebrows...

[Roof-Daddy]

Nothing will be done about it.

You just have to hope your team isn't the one that gets ####ed when it happens again.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

For the awards, I don't see a defensive D-man award working at all. The better answer for me is a 'Bobby Orr Best Offensive D-Man' award, and let the Norris revert to best overall defenseman.

Just consistently observe the award criteria. As I pointed out above, there are a few outliers here znd there, but by and large the winner of the Norris every year is usually one of the best defensemen in tbe League at both ends of the ice.

It's fine the way it is.

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[getbak]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Simple solution: make the rights 5 years, instead of 4

Remember that Fox didn't play four years of College. Even if they made it five years, you'd still have teams trading the player's rights after 2 or 3 years if it was clear he wasn't interested in signing.

[GioforPM]

Maybe there should be a compensatory pick like when a first round draftee doesn’t sign within 2 years.

[Yobbo]

Calgary can seemingly get no breaks.