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btimbit · 06-01-2021, 01:40 PM

Agree, Chychrun was a beast and if he played anywhere else we'd hear more about it

GirlySports · 06-01-2021, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

So we play Russia in in the QF?

Yep. 11:15 on Friday

https://www.iihf.com/en/events/2021/...dings/playoffs

Itse · 06-01-2021, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

So we play Russia in in the QF?

Yup.

RUS-CAN
USA-SVK
SUI-GER
FIN-CZE

Cali Panthers Fan · 06-01-2021, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Itse

Yup.

RUS-CAN
USA-SVK
SUI-GER
FIN-CZE

So in the end, the final 8 are what you would have predicted at the start of the tournament, with Sweden being the surprising absence. So much for all the handwringing when the tournament began.

Itse · 06-01-2021, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

So in the end, the final 8 are what you would have predicted at the start of the tournament, with Sweden being the surprising absence. So much for all the handwringing when the tournament began.

Pretty much business as usual yeah. Lots of upsets to begin with, then the best countries get their s### together.

dino7c · 06-01-2021, 02:54 PM

Mangi turned team Canada around

Goriders · 06-01-2021, 03:45 PM

Eat bread for gold?

I think if Canada can get by russia they have a shot.

transplant99 · 06-01-2021, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Led all NHL D with 18 goals, averaged 23:23 a night, took 173 shots in just 56 games, led all NHL defensemen with 17.3 expected goals above replacement (per Evolving-Hockey).

If I had a Norris vote, it'd go 1) Chychrun, 2) Makar, 3) Weegar. No doubt in my mind Chychrun should be in the top-four for Canada. Chabot really isn't in his ballpark.

With Hedman having one of the worst years of his career, I think the field is definitely a lot more open. It's time for Chychrun to start getting more praise for just how good he is.

Yet he still outscored Chychrun in fewer games.

He might get some consideration from Hockey Canada but i would suggest that right now he is a ways down the projected depth chart

RS

Pietrangelo
Ellis
Weber/Doughty
Parayko/Hamilton

LS

Reilly
Chabot
Nurse
Morrisey/Sanheim/Chychrun

Something along those lines.

If they hold a summit with potential players and whatever these guys do early in the season next year will go a long ways to seeing who will be on the team.

All I know is that the guys who chose that Sochi team should really be consulted again...that was the most dominating team ever assembled IMO.

Gave up 3 goals in 6 games....against the best teams in the world.

TheScorpion · 06-01-2021, 05:23 PM

Morrissey was one of the least effective players in the NHL this year. Can't see him meriting any serious consideration.

Really don't know what Nurse has done to earn it, either. There's a lot of evidence suggesting this past season was a pretty significant anomaly.

BowRiverBruinsRule · 06-01-2021, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bleeding Red

I'm not so sure about that. This tournament is almost entirely devoid of any a-list players, let alone top stars. All the scoring totals are inflated due to blowout wins. No team other than CAN or USA has more than 9 NHL players on their roster.

This isn't world parity. It's lowest common denominator hockey with whoever wants to show up.

Goaltending is clearly the difference. Goalies stealing tournament games accounts for most of the wins. Canada & US goalies are at a disadvantage due to the larger ice surface (different angles). Only two Euro teams have goalies on their roster who have played in NA.

Call me when the big boys show up.

I would have to agree. Not many "a-list" players. Don't ask me how (coincidence) but I got to see the 2015 IIHF World Championship trophy today and see the names. Yikes. Crosby, Spezza, Burns, Mckinnon, Giroux, Seguin, Eberle, Hall, Ekblad, etc. And some guy named Smith as a goalie. That's an "a-list".

transplant99 · 06-01-2021, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Morrissey was one of the least effective players in the NHL this year. Can't see him meriting any serious consideration.

Really don't know what Nurse has done to earn it, either. There's a lot of evidence suggesting this past season was a pretty significant anomaly.

what do you call Chychruns year then?

And what do you mean Morrisey is one of the "least effective" players?

TheScorpion · 06-01-2021, 05:54 PM

I mean the Jets got straight-up dominated when Morrissey was on the ice. Bled goals and chances. His contract is looking like an anchor after his last two very ineffective seasons.

And Chychrun has been one of the better two-way defencemen in the NHL for the last three seasons... his scoring was all that blossomed this year.

SuperMatt18 · 06-01-2021, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by transplant99

Yet he still outscored Chychrun in fewer games.

He might get some consideration from Hockey Canada but i would suggest that right now he is a ways down the projected depth chart

RS

Pietrangelo
Ellis
Weber/Doughty
Parayko/Hamilton

LS

Reilly
Chabot
Nurse
Morrisey/Sanheim/Chychrun

Something along those lines.

Not having Makar is a bold choice

timbit · 06-01-2021, 06:24 PM

Makar, Toews , Ekblad, Letang and Theodore are 5 other D that I would place ahead of Chychrun, on TC.

Wastedyouth · 06-01-2021, 06:36 PM

Chychrun is better than all but Makar on your list. By a long long way.

CalgaryFan1988 · 06-01-2021, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Goriders

Eat bread for gold?

I think if Canada can get by russia they have a shot.

NSFW!

Tbull8 · 06-01-2021, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Nelson

I think this could be the most electric Olympic team amongst 2002, 2010, 2014 and 2022. You've got a ton of puck moving ability on that blue line, and the McDavid - MacKinnon - Crosby - Point centre depth is terrifying.

I think in this case it could actually be said that line numbering doesn't matter. That Crosby line could easily be the best. Or the MacKinnon line.

Why does everyone keep putting McAvi at center? Let alone the 1C. He barely plays center on his own team. I feel like they would be way better off putting him on the wing with someone like Point or Scheifele as his center. Let him use his speed with the wider ice and not have to worry about defence as much (which he already cares little about).

getbak · 06-01-2021, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tbull8

Let him use his speed with the wider ice

I believe the plan is for the Beijing Olympics to use NHL-sized ice.

transplant99 · 06-01-2021, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

Chychrun is better than all but Makar on your list. By a long long way.

Sure thing.

transplant99 · 06-01-2021, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Not having Makar is a bold choice

Yeah...mental error...i was just blurting out guys from memory and which side of the ice they played...all of which would likely be higher up on any Hockey canada depth chart. They dont tend to forget about who has played the game at a high level for years...they are funny that way.

So Makar is yet another guy ahead of Chychrun on the chart.

All I know is that whomever was involved in picking the Sochi team is at least hopefully consulted. That was the most dominant team I have ever seen in far too long of watching this game.