[PGT] Habs 2 Flames 1 - Goodbye Playoff Hopes

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Well, you aren’t going to win scoring only 1.

That PP was pretty atrocious, lots of trouble gaining the zone

Tkachuk seems to be really disengaged. Too much Junior stuff still, plus no intensity or compete. Somebody has to figure out what bug is up his ass.

Markstrom was pretty decent on the whole. He only let in two. Absolutely no chance on the Weber shot. This game is not on him.

The double pad stack is the absolutely perfect save selection for every occasion. People love it.

Other players busting their butts all game long see this, he is acting like he, or his bug is bigger than the team.

[direwolf]

Meh. The likelihood of this team making the playoffs was pretty much zilch. And even if they did, they probably wouldn't get out of the 1st round.

It's time to focus on next year, make some necessary changes this summer, and put together a roster that the coach can actually work with. With a full season under Sutter and the right mix of players who are willing to put in the work required, and who actually want to be here, I'm confident we can get back to the post-season.

[Dion]

[bubbsy]

Tkachuk, monahan, backlund do nothing offensively.

It's sad to see the flames as one of the least skilled teams in the entire league. Yuck

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

Tkachuk, monahan, backlund do nothing offensively.

It's sad to see the flames as one of the least skilled teams in the entire league. Yuck

It’s one thing to be bad. Lots of teams are bad. Most, in fact.

At least be interesting. Be somewhat aesthetically pleasing.

I miss the fans in the building.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

It’s one thing to be bad. Lots of teams are bad. Most, in fact.

At least be interesting. Be somewhat aesthetically pleasing.

I miss the fans in the building.

I know as a STH my brother feels one of the benefits of this season is not having fans in the building to watch Brad's best battle it out each night.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

I thought the Gaudreau - Lindholm - Tkachuk line was working quite well for the past 5-6 games. I thought it was a new wrinkle to offense. I wonder why they went away from that?

Because it took away from the other lines. It kind of agitates me that coaches do this sometimes because to them it’s like, “oh, the other line is struggling though, so I better make a change to balance things out.”

Well as we saw, instead of at least one line generating and producing, you now have 0 lines generating. The Flames bottom 6 were probably the best players on the team tonight, but to expect guys like Buddy Robinson, Joakim Nordstrom or Brett Ritchie to score a big goal to tie things up, haha, not a damn chance.

[NewFan]

In my opinion next 2-3 years are perfect time to rebuild.
Sell all high end guys for picks for 2022 and 2023.
Play our previous years prospects under the Sutter and see what we have.
While keeping salary cap low, sign cheap league minimum 3-4 guys for leadership and identity for play Sutter type hockey.
Draft many as possible, and if can, draft couple top 1-3 overall draft.
And try to build real contender starting 2024.
I would keep Dube, Mangi, Andersson, Valimaki, Kylington and Wolf.
Others can go to best bidders.
Tanev, Markstrom, Hanifin, Lindholm, Gaudreau, Tkachuk must bring some kind of return. And Monahan and Backlund and Gio may bring some lower draft but 3rd or 4th blue chip prospects of other team.

[Leapfrog]

You know what I am afraid of....

Now that there is not pressure, Flames go lights out over the last bunch of games, making management think "Maybe this core DOES have what it takes!! We were so close - if we get a FULL season like that, we will can be elite!!" So... they shuffle in/out a bunch of fringe no-names, thinking "This is our window with this group!"

[oldschoolcalgary]

meh... Calgary's chances to make the playoffs have been slim and none for a while to be honest.

I was hoping they would try bringing in more kids in the hopes of improving their draft position.

Outside of 2019, this is team that is barely in or barely out of the playoffs...people cling to the hopes of 'anything can happen in the playoffs'... but outside of StL, is that really true? Maybe LAK's first year?

The reality is that team's that win the Cup, with the exception of StL, have had a #1 or #2 OA draft pick...which means there's probably a number of other players in the top 10 OA on the roster.

Drafting elite talent should be the goal of this franchise...they've pretty much struggled with mediocrity trying to build without tanking.

At this point, I am pretty open to building an organization differently than the last 30 years...

[Sylvanfan]

If this didn't prove to management that this group just can not bear down and get it done when they absolutely have to. I don't think anything will. That was a really abysmal third period by the team.

I know I'd order a complete tear down if I was a billionaire owner. I'd probably be trying to dip a few people in hot oil too to make myself feel better...so it's a good thing I'm not.

[N-E-B]

We aren’t missing the playoffs because of tonight. We’re missing the playoffs because we’re 2-6 against the worst team in the division. Just think if we were 5-3 against them (which isn’t even that good) we’d be tied for the last playoff spot and very much still in it.

[Manhattanboy]

Team gets an F. A big fat fricken F.

Heads better roll. Core players gone and GM on the trap door in the floor with the button about to be pushed.

When you factor in the arena debacle this franchise is in big trouble.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

It's embarassing Kylington didn't play today. Could have used his skill.

He dosen't use it tho. His biggest asset is his speed and edges. He did but then in the AHL he took a few massive hits because of it.

He doesn't use his massive pros because IMO when he did he didn't keep his head up numerous times and just got laid out. His feet are faster than his hockey IQ so he had to slow down out of necessity not to die.

[Flamesfan05]

Brad Treliving has to go. His vision of the defense is pathetic. So much resources wasted.

Up front the hard working guys have no skill and the skilled guys have no work ethic.

Team needs to be completely rebuilt. Hope by a GM that knows what he is doing.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

meh... Calgary's chances to make the playoffs have been slim and none for a while to be honest.

I was hoping they would try bringing in more kids in the hopes of improving their draft position.

Outside of 2019, this is team that is barely in or barely out of the playoffs...people cling to the hopes of 'anything can happen in the playoffs'... but outside of StL, is that really true? Maybe LAK's first year?

I don't know, if they want to tank and not win...this current bunch seems to be pretty good at doing just that. They're more or less locked into a top 10 pick as New Jersey has fallen really hard to the point where Buffalo might not have the best Lottery odds. The three California Teams have no interest in winning much. The Wings are playing better but they had an awful start and Columbus seems to have had enough of Torts. So that's 7 teams plus Ottawa to make it 8. Arizona might jockey a bit and maybe Chicago might fall a bit too. Play this current group and they likely mail in to a 2-6 finish at best. Bring up some kids who might care...they might go 4-4. If they go 2-6 and 49 points will make them one of the 8 worst teams in this league.

Really I think Vancouver is the team who died as badly as the Flames tonight. The Flames were a major long shot, but Vancouver could have got within 6 points with 5 extra games. 10 back for them is probably a bit much.

[Savvy27]

I would love to hear Matthew Tkachuk's honest opinion about whether or not he left it all out on the ice tonight as this team's highest paid player and alternate captain. And if he didn't, why not and will he ever do it again for this franchise or this coach?

Everything about his on ice performance tonight is diametrically opposed to the way that he described himself and his game in the off-season and the early parts of this season. I am trying hard to not evaluate a player too much based on this weird season, but I'm also very concerned that he has badly lost his way as a player. He was fantastic last season and I don't even recognize that player in his current game.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

meh... Calgary's chances to make the playoffs have been slim and none for a while to be honest.

I was hoping they would try bringing in more kids in the hopes of improving their draft position.

Outside of 2019, this is team that is barely in or barely out of the playoffs...people cling to the hopes of 'anything can happen in the playoffs'... but outside of StL, is that really true? Maybe LAK's first year?

The reality is that team's that win the Cup, with the exception of StL, have had a #1 or #2 OA draft pick...which means there's probably a number of other players in the top 10 OA on the roster.

Drafting elite talent should be the goal of this franchise...they've pretty much struggled with mediocrity trying to build without tanking.

At this point, I am pretty open to building an organization differently than the last 30 years...

Preach. Seems logical, doesn’t it?

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

meh... Calgary's chances to make the playoffs have been slim and none for a while to be honest.

I was hoping they would try bringing in more kids in the hopes of improving their draft position.

Outside of 2019, this is team that is barely in or barely out of the playoffs...people cling to the hopes of 'anything can happen in the playoffs'... but outside of StL, is that really true? Maybe LAK's first year?

The reality is that team's that win the Cup, with the exception of StL, have had a #1 or #2 OA draft pick...which means there's probably a number of other players in the top 10 OA on the roster.

Drafting elite talent should be the goal of this franchise...they've pretty much struggled with mediocrity trying to build without tanking.

At this point, I am pretty open to building an organization differently than the last 30 years...

Edmonton agrees to build a new arena, gets Draisaitl and McDavid. Pittsburgh agrees to build a new arena, gets Malkin and Crosby.

Calgary agrees to build a new arena, gets Wright and Bedard?

Come on Bettman, do your thing!

[FiveSeven]

Suck at winning and suck at losing.