02-24-2020, 11:06 AM
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#161
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Originally Posted by keenan87
This is a GM who is collecting pay cheques until someone fires him. Seems to still be sulking after trades didn't go his way.
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This is entirely baseless.
But I guess we are moving into the character assassination part of the process where we go beyond evaluating the work, and start to also attack the GM as a person.
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02-24-2020, 11:06 AM
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#162
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Loves Teh Chat!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
This is entirely baseless.
But I guess we are moving into the character assassination part of the process where we go beyond evaluating the work, and start to also attack the GM as a person.
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Haven't you heard? Other GMs don't like working with him. He rubs them the wrong way!
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02-24-2020, 11:06 AM
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#163
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnhitbox
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
Why do you think he's burned bridges?
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No facts from other GMs. Just a feeling
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That's silly.
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02-24-2020, 11:07 AM
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#164
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djsFlames
Grabbing Stone for picks and prospects (Vali + 1st) would've satisfied a lot of needs up front that we've been agonizing over ever since. He's been a high impact player for Vegas.
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And it's been mentioned ad nauseam that he had absolutely no desire to be here.
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02-24-2020, 11:07 AM
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#165
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sainters7
Love Commodore, but he's a brutal "Insiderrrrr"... just hucking a bunch of stuff at the wall, hoping a couple stick. Obviously take any of his "trades" with a huge grain of salt
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Of course, he would say the same thing.
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02-24-2020, 11:07 AM
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#166
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keenan87
This is a GM who is collecting pay cheques until someone fires him. Seems to still be sulking after trades didn't go his way.
Doesn't really have a plan or clue how to move forward.
Hoping he proves me wrong but I doubt it.
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One of the two of you is sulking...and it's not Brad Treliving.
Patience is the best plan here.
Knee jerk reactions are when you end up trading Dion Phaneuf for Matt Stajan and Friends, and Olli Jokinen & Prust for Ales Kotalik and Higgins.
Ideally Treliving would be selling UFA dmen to gain assets to use at the draft (whether in deals or as picks) but 3 injuries in our planned top 6 have kind of limited that.
His best bet is to not move assets to try and get this team any further either. Since last playoffs Gaudreau/Monahan have not shown anything that indicates we should be going all in, so smart to not try to buy.
If the draft comes and goes and we have the same roster then I agree it's time to look at the GM. But until then patience is the key here.
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02-24-2020, 11:08 AM
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#167
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Torture
Haven't you heard? Other GMs don't like working with him. He rubs them the wrong way!
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 yeah, I hear he’s a real pimp
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02-24-2020, 11:09 AM
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#168
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Loves Teh Chat!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnhitbox
yeah, I hear he’s a real pimp
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The hockey team is just a front!
.......is trade deadline always this strange?
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02-24-2020, 11:10 AM
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#169
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Torture
The hockey team is just a front!
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Just like that Canada pizza limited in Cranston haha
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02-24-2020, 11:11 AM
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#170
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Franchise Player
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The only deal so far I would have liked BT to be in on was the Trochek one. But perhaps the Flames didn't have prospects similar to what the Canes offered. Or the Panthers asked for guys the Flames wouldn't move.
From a straight value POV that one seems like a missed opportunity.
The rest of the deals today though? Meh.
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02-24-2020, 11:11 AM
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#171
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnhitbox
Just like that Canada pizza limited in Cranston haha
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What is the story behind that pizza joint? 🤔.
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02-24-2020, 11:11 AM
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#172
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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[QUOTE=Johnhitbox;7385990]
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
Why do you think he's burned bridges?
No facts from other GMs. Just a feeling
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Ooga Chaka
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02-24-2020, 11:12 AM
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#173
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Franchise Player
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What ever happened to Stay Golden? I would love to hear his Tre rant
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02-24-2020, 11:12 AM
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#174
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Loves Teh Chat!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnhitbox
Just like that Canada pizza limited in Cranston haha
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I make it a point to never venture as far into the suburbs as Cranston. Rumour has it that once you go there, you'll never make it back to the inner city. 
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02-24-2020, 11:12 AM
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#175
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
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So far I'm happy enough.
I never wanted to spend assets on a rental.
I wanted to move one of our two UFA dmen but injuries have made that pretty difficult.
I want to add another forward with term ie Palmieri but deadline day isn't always the best time to do that.
If we go past the draft with no moves I'll be annoyed but if we stand pat today, it's whatever
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02-24-2020, 11:13 AM
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#176
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: I will never cheer for losses
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sainters7
Love Commodore, but he's a brutal "Insiderrrrr"... just hucking a bunch of stuff at the wall, hoping a couple stick. Obviously take any of his "trades" with a huge grain of salt
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Agreed, I usually unfollow him on Twitter about a week before the deadline every year
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02-24-2020, 11:13 AM
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#177
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Torture
The hockey team is just a front!
.......is trade deadline always this strange?
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In other years people were not as down on the Flames as they are now. This year, people are very frustrated with the team, and the trade deadline is just a microcosom of that. Additionally I think that a lot of people beleive that a single player can turn a seasona round. Also, has per usual, the people who are the most upset are the loudest, most people who are neutral satisfied don't have as much to say.
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02-24-2020, 11:13 AM
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#178
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Torture
Haven't you heard? Other GMs don't like working with him. He rubs them the wrong way!
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That part is pretty funny, as it seems like lots of GMs want to work with the Flames. The problem is that they also want the Flames to give up valuable assets like Kylington, Bennett, Valimaki, Andersson, 1st round picks, etc....
GMs are in a business where they need to maximize their returns on all assets. The future of franchises worth 100s of millions of dollars depends on it. GMs will put business first.
You'd also be surprised how many of these guys are complete A-holes. At any high level of management like this, particularly in sports, you are going to end up with a distilled group of people who rub other people the wrong way habitually. That's kind of how you get ahead in these environments.
Back on topic. Any GM paying big money for FAs is making a massive mistake this season. The only good target was Hall. Arizona overpaid for him and still might miss the playoffs. He will definitely test the UFA market.
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02-24-2020, 11:13 AM
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#179
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flamesfan1297
Agreed, I usually unfollow him on Twitter about a week before the deadline every year
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He had AA to Edmonton 20 minutes before it broke just now.
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02-24-2020, 11:14 AM
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#180
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Moscow
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
The only deal so far I would have liked BT to be in on was the Trochek one. But perhaps the Flames didn't have prospects similar to what the Canes offered. Or the Panthers asked for guys the Flames wouldn't move.
From a straight value POV that one seems like a missed opportunity.
The rest of the deals today though? Meh.
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Agree. It hurts because Trochek would have, I think, been a really good fit on the second line.
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