Playoff ticket pre-sale

[colbym72]

Originally Posted by bcneil

Yeah I don't know how those will get sold....someone needs to buy a single first?

But don't feel bad, cause these would have all been sold to the season ticket holders yesterday, if they were able to buy them.

it was annoying because I was gonna buy 2 and have a friend buy the other but oh well. I am sure for the public sale, you will be able to buy more than a pair

[Duffalufagus]

$650 a seat for a first round playoff game? GTFO. What will they want for the Finals, our first born?

[Since1984]

Originally Posted by Duffalufagus

$650 a seat for a first round playoff game? GTFO. What will they want for the Finals, our first born?

Those are Club Seat prices...you get waiters!!!!

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by heep223

These were very similar prices to the secondary market in 2015. People who are paying are people who want to go to Flames playoff games and are willing to pay that price. I'd rather give the "gouging" price to the Flames as opposed to a scummy ticket broker who is making a spread for doing nothing.



It's based on supply and demand, if the Flames don't maximize it then others will.

Ah the supply and demand crowd has finally made an appearance to bring things back into check. Sorry, it still doesn't make it right. At least if a scalper is doing it, you can rationalize it as he has no ties to the team, city and league.

In a winner take all event like the NFL playoffs, it makes sense prices are high from a business perspective. This is nothing more than indefensible gouging at its finest. As a team and league, you can still charge a premium (which I fully expect them to do), but you don't need to be dicks about it.

In the first round, I expected pricing more inline with reality (and the economy), especially out of a team crying the blues about public support for a new building. Rest assured, your supply and demand sympathy will lead fans right to regular season pricing not far off of this once a new building is finally erected.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

Ah the supply and demand crowd has finally made an appearance to bring things back into check. Sorry, it still doesn't make it right. At least if a scalper is doing it, you can rationalize it as he has no ties to the team, city and league.

In a winner take all event like the NFL playoffs, it makes sense prices are high from a business perspective. This is nothing more than indefensible gouging at its finest. As a team and league, you can still charge a premium (which i fully expect), but you don't need to be dicks about it.

I expected pricing more inline with reality (and the economy), especially out of a team crying the blues about public support for a new building. Your supply and demand mantra will lead fans right to regular season pricing not far off of this once a new building is finally erected.

To be clear, you’d rather that a scalper makes a 50% mark-up on tickets than the Flames themselves?

[burnitdown]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

Ah the supply and demand crowd has finally made an appearance to bring things back into check.

Sorry, it still doesn't make it right. At least in a winner take all event like the NFL playoffs, it makes sense prices are high from a business perspective. This is nothing more than indefensible gouging at its finest. As a team and league, you can still charge a premium (which i fully expect), but you don't need to be dicks about it.

I expected pricing more inline with reality (and the economy), especially out of a team crying the blues about public support for a new building. Your supply and demand mantra will lead fans right to regular season pricing not far off of this once a new building is finally erected.

It doesn't sound like you want pricing in line with reality. Reality is what people are willing to pay, given the economy. These playoff games will sell out instantly, even at these high prices...so one could argue they are offering a discount already.

It sounds like you actually want the Flames to run their organization as a charity during playoffs, offering ticket discounts to reward fans for supporting the team during the year. Of course, this assumes they should also be ok with a good portion of those "fans" (i.e. brokers) profiting off this at their expense.

[flamesrule_kipper34]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

Ah the supply and demand crowd has finally made an appearance to bring things back into check. Sorry, it still doesn't make it right. At least if a scalper is doing it, you can rationalize it as he has no ties to the team, city and league.

In a winner take all event like the NFL playoffs, it makes sense prices are high from a business perspective. This is nothing more than indefensible gouging at its finest. As a team and league, you can still charge a premium (which I fully expect them to do), but you don't need to be dicks about it.

In the first round, I expected pricing more inline with reality (and the economy), especially out of a team crying the blues about public support for a new building. Rest assured, your supply and demand sympathy will lead fans right to regular season pricing not far off of this once a new building is finally erected.

Originally Posted by heep223

To be clear, you’d rather that a scalper makes a 50% mark-up on tickets than the Flames themselves?

Completely agreed, what's the argument here?

One way or another, someone is going to make the amount the Flames are charging (+/- some amount)...do you want the lion's share of that premium going to the Flames or a scalper?

[marsplasticeraser]

Repeating what others have written, at these prices it will be more enjoyable to watch the games at home with friends.

Also, it makes sense that the Flames are pricing at the prices of resellers, the question is is this the actual sales price achieved by resellers?

I don't think stubhub would release the actual prices tickets transacted at.

Knowing Ken King's capabilities, I think it's very plausible they looked on Stubhub a couple of days before the game and noted the highest ticket prices, but never followed up to see what they were priced at closer to game time.

I honestly wonder if they will sellout at these prices.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

Ah the supply and demand crowd has finally made an appearance to bring things back into check. Sorry, it still doesn't make it right. At least if a scalper is doing it, you can rationalize it as he has no ties to the team, city and league.

In a winner take all event like the NFL playoffs, it makes sense prices are high from a business perspective. This is nothing more than indefensible gouging at its finest. As a team and league, you can still charge a premium (which I fully expect them to do), but you don't need to be dicks about it.

In the first round, I expected pricing more inline with reality (and the economy), especially out of a team crying the blues about public support for a new building. Rest assured, your supply and demand sympathy will lead fans right to regular season pricing not far off of this once a new building is finally erected.

It's supply and demand. They have a product, and have a right to charge what it is worth.

You're NOT okay with that, but you ARE okay with some other dude flipping the tickets (to the same end price) and gaining free profit off someone else's product?

I am going to go out on a limb and guess that you don't have a business of your own.

[theslymonkey]

Originally Posted by marsplasticeraser

Repeating what others have written, at these prices it will be more enjoyable to watch the games at home with friends.

Also, it makes sense that the Flames are pricing at the prices of resellers, the question is is this the actual sales price achieved by resellers?

I don't think stubhub would release the actual prices tickets transacted at.

Knowing Ken King's capabilities, I think it's very plausible they looked on Stubhub a couple of days before the game and noted the highest ticket prices, but never followed up to see what they were priced at closer to game time.

I honestly wonder if they will sellout at these prices.

They were basically sold out yesterday.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

It's supply and demand. They have a product, and have a right to charge what it is worth.

You're NOT okay with that, but you ARE okay with some other dude flipping the tickets (to the same end price) and gaining free profit off someone else's product?

I am going to go out on a limb and guess that you don't have a business of your own.

If you actually think that as a consumer that makes any sense to side with, I'm guessing you don't exactly make too many shrewd purchases lol.

What should any Flames fan care if a scalper is making huge profits off of a handful of tickets if they can actually afford to go to the game with their family and friends at a semi respectable price point? Guess what? They are going to do that with these anyway and you're at a desperate level of naive if you don't think that's the case.

Maybe the team offering said product could be reasonable members of the community and not hammer every fan as hard as they can. Again, you're somehow ok with this as a consumer, Flames fan and citizen of Calgary?

Wow. I'd love to sell you something significant like a car or house.....Cha-Ching!

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

If you actually think that as a consumer that makes any sense to side with, I'm guessing you don't exactly make too many shrewd purchases.

What should any Flames fan care if a scalper is making huge profits off of a handful of tickets? Guess what? They are going to do that with these anyway and you're being beyond naive if you don't think that's the case.

lol

as a consumer, I am free to choose what I want to purchase. And I am pretty adept at making reasonable, and occasionally even shrewd, purchases - thanks for asking.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

If you actually think that as a consumer that makes any sense to side with, I'm guessing you don't exactly make too many shrewd purchases.

What should any Flames fan care if a scalper is making huge profits off of a handful of tickets? Guess what? They are going to do that with these anyway and you're being beyond naive if you don't think that's the case.

Maybe the team offering said product could be reasonable members of the community and not hammer every fan as hard as they can. Again, you're somehow ok with this as a consumer, Flames fan and citizen of Calgary?

Wow. I'd love to sell you something significant like a car or house. Cha Ching!

The question is: why do YOU care that the Flames charge the same price as a scalper could?

[ken0042]

Guys, I know this can be a bit of a hot topic. Let's keep it from getting to personal. It is a good subject for debate, and I enjoy a good debate with solid arguments from each side.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

If you actually think that as a consumer that makes any sense to side with, I'm guessing you don't exactly make too many shrewd purchases lol.

What should any Flames fan care if a scalper is making huge profits off of a handful of tickets if they can actually afford to go to the game with their family and friends at a semi respectable price point? Guess what? They are going to do that with these anyway and you're at a desperate level of naive if you don't think that's the case.

Maybe the team offering said product could be reasonable members of the community and not hammer every fan as hard as they can. Again, you're somehow ok with this as a consumer, Flames fan and citizen of Calgary?

Wow. I'd love to sell you something significant like a car or house. Cha Ching!

lol again...

you understand that the purchaser is allowed to choose NOT to buy if the price isn't reasonable, right?

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by flamesrule_kipper34

Completely agreed, what's the argument here?

One way or another, someone is going to make the amount the Flames are charging (+/- some amount)...do you want the lion's share of that premium going to the Flames or a scalper?

It's diluted posters like enoch root who feel obliged to somehow justify these actions from a business perspective even though as consumers, it's makes no sense whatsoever.

The argument that "some scalper would just do it" is beyond obtuse....Yeah, and they're scalpers. They're in the business of ripping people off.

The Flames, they're supposedly stewards of the community.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

lol again...

you understand that the purchaser is allowed to choose NOT to buy if the price isn't reasonable, right?

No, I didn't possibly gather that, but I'm glad you broke through the clouds to point out the obvious

Continue to do your best to detract from the actual point - you are a consumer and you somehow like to pay exorbitant prices for things you love?

Ok pal. I want whatever you're smoking.

[squiggs96]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

Wow. I'd love to sell you something significant like a car or house.....Cha-Ching!

Actually, if you are selling your house, you'd likely be okay to sell the house to a broker for $600,000, who sells it to the end user later that day for $1,000,000. Why should the owner of the property take market value when they can sell at a discount?

[flamesrule_kipper34]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

It's diluted posters like enoch root who feel obliged to somehow justify these actions from a business perspective even though as consumers, it's makes no sense whatsoever.

The argument that "some scalper would just do it" is beyond obtuse....Yeah, and they're scalpers. They're in the business of ripping people off.

The Flames, they're supposedly stewards of the community.

I think I do see what you're saying now.

I think my assumption though is these would be the price points if the Flames set them or not. So either the $'s go to The Flames or to scalpers.

I see your point about scalpers and there being a negative connotation towards that, however, scalping is legal.

All the Flames are trying to do are maximize their $'s and cut out the middleman and unless the Dome isn't sold out I'm perfectly fine with their overall decision on price points.

My two cents.

[theslymonkey]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

It's diluted posters like enoch root who feel obliged to somehow justify these actions from a business perspective even though as consumers, it's makes no sense whatsoever.

The argument that "some scalper would just do it" is beyond obtuse....Yeah, and they're scalpers. They're in the business of ripping people off.

The Flames, they're supposedly stewards of the community.

Except they're not. They have found a product that they believe is priced what they believe is market value. So they buy the product and sell it for what they believe they can get on the open market. That's what every "for profit" business does.