05-30-2018, 09:43 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2001
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Dave Cameron and Desjardins don't have the same resume in my mind.
The problem with coaches and coaching staffs is you never really know who ran what, at least in most cases you don't.
Was last year's powerplay all on Cameron? Or did Gulutzan get involved and it still suffered? Did Gulutzan get involved too late and that was his downfall?
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05-30-2018, 09:47 AM
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#162
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Originally Posted by phoenix66
...Paul Maclean is my wish .. Adam Oates or Todd Nelson would be great too.. just please no Willie or Tippett
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I think almost everyone would be happy were the Flames to add MacLean, but I don’t understand why people like Todd Nelson for the job. Also, I have not seen anything beyond a single poster’s speculation that Tippett could be added. I am fairly confident that would not happen.
Last edited by Textcritic; 05-30-2018 at 10:29 AM.
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05-30-2018, 09:49 AM
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#163
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Originally Posted by Bingo
Dave Cameron and Desjardins don't have the same resume in my mind.
The problem with coaches and coaching staffs is you never really know who ran what, at least in most cases you don't.
Was last year's powerplay all on Cameron? Or did Gulutzan get involved and it still suffered? Did Gulutzan get involved too late and that was his downfall?
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GG ran the show. I suspect even if he let Cameron handle PP duties he still had the final word and whether he did or didn't get involved it was on his shoulders.
Now we'd consider bringing in the guy he patterned himself after who doesn't seem to have much success in the departments we'd want him running?
Just doesn't make much sense to me.
MacLean is a guy that, much like Peters, has a background working with Babcock and thus seems more likely to me based on that circle of association.
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05-30-2018, 09:52 AM
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#164
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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Originally Posted by Toonage
Or, you get Dave Cameron.
To me, the guy that GG patterned his coaching style and player usage/bench management after is not the guy I want around the team. If I were running the show I just wouldn't want to take that chance.
I do get where people are coming from, but I just wouldn't risk it. Even in the AC role.
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Willie is probably not the guy who is coming in as his was just a name thrown out by one of the guys on the radio in a "what about this guy?" scenario. It was just for the sake of discussion.
Let's say the do hire Willie. Are they bringing him in to coach the PP? Then we're potentially in the same territory as hiring Dave Cameron. Cameron was fired as head coach from Ottawa in large part due to a horrible powerplay then brought into Calgary and given the responsibility of running the PP. Willie didn't have a good PP when he was head coach in Vancouver... so I can see concern. We don't know what Willie would handle if he was the assistant coach.
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05-30-2018, 09:53 AM
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#165
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Draft Pick
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
Dave Cameron and Desjardins don't have the same resume in my mind.
The problem with coaches and coaching staffs is you never really know who ran what, at least in most cases you don't.
Was last year's powerplay all on Cameron? Or did Gulutzan get involved and it still suffered? Did Gulutzan get involved too late and that was his downfall?
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it's Both.
Its typically the assistants job to run the powerplay , of course the coach should have input.. BP has already said that he will always carry the final say but lets his assistants do their job otherwise.
The end call falls on the head coach because if the AC is messing it up its his job to either fix it or fix/fire the guy that runs it .
GG failed by not firing Cameron when it was obvious we were useless . and based on the season he had no answers on how to fix it himself
Cameron came in with a good track record, except his teams always had bad powerplays.. I just dont want to see us take that same chance again
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05-30-2018, 09:54 AM
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#166
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Franchise Player
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Maybe it's Dave King...j/k j/k
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05-30-2018, 09:55 AM
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#168
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Draft Pick
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Originally Posted by Buff
Willie is probably not the guy who is coming in as his was just a name thrown out by one of the guys on the radio in a "what about this guy?" scenario. It was just for the sake of discussion.
Let's say the do hire Willie. Are they bringing him in to coach the PP? Then we're potentially in the same territory as hiring Dave Cameron. Cameron was fired as head coach from Ottawa in large part due to a horrible powerplay then brought into Calgary and given the responsibility of running the PP. Willie didn't have a good PP when he was head coach in Vancouver... so I can see concern. We don't know what Willie would handle if he was the assistant coach.
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And the big irony here , is the Oilers are putting GG in charge of the PP 
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05-30-2018, 09:56 AM
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#169
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Scoring Winger
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Not much more to add, nor is it earth shattering. They have both assistants hired now. Peters had to be back in Calgary today, suspected to announce. However they did say tomorrow was possible to for the announcement.
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05-30-2018, 10:16 AM
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#170
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Grew up in Calgary now living in USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toonage
GG ran the show. I suspect even if he let Cameron handle PP duties he still had the final word and whether he did or didn't get involved it was on his shoulders.
Now we'd consider bringing in the guy he patterned himself after who doesn't seem to have much success in the departments we'd want him running?
Just doesn't make much sense to me.
MacLean is a guy that, much like Peters, has a background working with Babcock and thus seems more likely to me based on that circle of association.
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^^Been thinking about this a lot lately. I am going to take a wait and see but
we seem to be leaning a lot on the above.
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05-30-2018, 10:25 AM
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#171
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Originally Posted by tvp2003
If it's MacLean does that mean we have to replace Bev with this guy:
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I'm sure Bev could rock that 'stache!
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05-30-2018, 10:25 AM
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#172
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First Line Centre
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My guess is MacLean for the forwards and PP and Huska for the defense and PK.
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05-30-2018, 10:27 AM
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#173
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Calgary
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Todd Nelson being reported as headed to Dallas as an assistant coach.
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05-30-2018, 11:04 AM
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#174
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Red Deer
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The last time Calgary had an epic mustache on the bench they did OK.
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05-30-2018, 11:11 AM
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#175
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yamer
The last time Calgary had an epic mustache on the bench they did OK.
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I believe you are incorrect. (I assume you are talking about Lanny?)
The last time the Flames had an epic mustache on the team they crashed and burned hard.
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05-30-2018, 11:43 AM
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#176
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tvp2003
If it's MacLean does that mean we have to replace Bev with this guy:
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fixed your post
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05-30-2018, 11:56 AM
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#178
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Apparently Todd Nelson is going to Dallas, so it’s not him.
Edit: wow a bit slow on that one!
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