R2 - Series Thread - Capitals (M1) vs Penguins (M2)

[CroFlames]

Crosby-esque goal.

Alley-oop to himself off the post haha.

[atb]

Never get tired seeing how excited Ovie is to score, awesome.

[Canuck-Hater]

wrong thread.

[Mike F]

Originally Posted by AC

OV!

That's at least the 3rd 2-on-1 the Pens have allowed in the last 10 minutes or so. Not smart!

Could there BE more bad pinches of the offensive blueline?!?!

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Aston Reese has a broken jaw and a concussion.

I love good hard hits as much as the next fan, but if that's the damage I'm not sure how you can call that a clean hit.

[PegCityFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Aston Reese has a broken jaw and a concussion.

I love good hard hits as much as the next fan, but if that's the damage I'm not sure how you can call that a clean hit.

Didn't see anything wrong with it. It's a contact sport.

[CroFlames]

Of the 8 teams remaining, there are only two Canadian Captains, Crosby and Stamkos.

Vegas is vacant.
Caps is Russian.
Bruins Slovak.
Preds Swiss.
Sharks American
Jets American.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Aston Reese has a broken jaw and a concussion.

I love good hard hits as much as the next fan, but if that's the damage I'm not sure how you can call that a clean hit.

Probably because damage doesn’t equate whether a hit is clean or not based on the rules?

[PugnaciousIntern]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Probably because damage doesn’t equate whether a hit is clean or not based on the rules?

For the most part, yeah I do agree. But if the spirit of the rule is to reduce head contact, and the debate over the cleanliness of the hit is whether the head took the brunt of the check, a broken jaw has to at least indicate something, whether the DoPS takes the injury into account or not.

[Travis Munroe]

Uncalled for and unnecessary maybe but who is to decide what is uncalled for or unnecessary when it is a contact sport and Wilson receives a pay cheque to not pass up a hit.

The Dumoulin his was a series of unlucky events. Had Dumoulin not slammed on the brakes trying to watch out for the OV hit, he is most likely injured by OV. Wilson has no real option when a guy at near full speed stops on a dime in front of him.

This Aston Reese hit shows Wilson going for a line change and then Aston Reese just happens to skate perfectly into what Wilson is paid to do. Wilson lowers the shoulder and they go shoulder to shoulder but the force of Wilsons hit drives the shoulder through into the jaw area.

I agree with Spector on Wilson being a bad guy and having his share of dirty plays but you can't suspend him for either of these. That said, I do think the league wrongfully suspends him because of the injury.

[Weitz]

Is he getting a hearing? I haven’t heard. It will be a shame if he gets a suspension.

But it’s the NHL. They didnt suspend him before so its “well you didn’t actually break the rules but we have to appease the penguins so here is one game”.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Aston Reese has a broken jaw and a concussion.

I love good hard hits as much as the next fan, but if that's the damage I'm not sure how you can call that a clean hit.

So good hard hits now need to be punished if someone gets injured in them?

Is that gong to be the standard moving forward?

No consideration to be given for the actual hit falling within the definition as allowed by the league?

Why even have rules at that point if the result determines things?

That just makes no sense to me.

He will be suspended, incorrectly, for playing within the rules, all because one guy was bigger than the other.

The game has become so horribly sanitized from what is was born from, and it truly is heading towards a non contact sport that will be entirely something different than what has drawn millions to it to begin with.

Very unfortunate.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Is he getting a hearing? I haven’t heard. It will be a shame if he gets a suspension.

But it’s the NHL. They didnt suspend him before so its “well you didn’t actually break the rules but we have to appease the penguins so here is one game”.

yup.

https://www.tsn.ca/wilson-to-have-he...eese-1.1073930

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by transplant99

So good hard hits now need to be punished if someone gets injured in them?

Is that gong to be the standard moving forward?

No consideration to be given for the actual hit falling within the definition as allowed by the league?

Why even have rules at that point if the result determines things?

That just makes no sense to me.

He will be suspended, incorrectly, for playing within the rules, all because one guy was bigger than the other.

The game has become so horribly sanitized from what is was born from, and it truly is heading towards a non contact sport that will be entirely something different than what has drawn millions to it to begin with.

Very unfortunate.

It wasn’t clearly a clean hit. It was borderline. If you think it was clearly clean that’s fantastic, that’s your opinion. All I’m saying is that if there’s a broken jaw and a concussion there’s a good chance it wasn’t so clean.

Not sure why you’re going on about non-contact hockey or whatever since it’s obvious I never said anything if the sort.

[Flamenspiel]

Yea, its very easy for the refs to miss this stuff during the game as it happens so fast. When you watch it on on slow motion it looks illegal to me.

Of course Wilson is being very clever about it and tries to take the rules to the limit, its all well thought out and I have no doubt that he is predatory player.

I think he will get a couple of games and the Penguins will turn the series. I don't agree that this is something about the "new NHL" not allowing hitting. He reminds me very much of the previous era's Raffi Torres, who was certainly not allowed to get away with the same kind of hits.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

It wasn’t clearly a clean hit. It was borderline. If you think it was clearly clean that’s fantastic, that’s your opinion. All I’m saying is that if there’s a broken jaw and a concussion there’s a good chance it wasn’t so clean.

Not sure why you’re going on about non-contact hockey or whatever since it’s obvious I never said anything if the sort.

Because if that is considered borderline, then all hits will have to be considered as such if an injury occurs. No?

I mean, watch the replays. Both guys are looking directly at one another and both turn to brace for the hit, Reese actually lowering his contact point when doing so, and then the bigger guy with more momentum crushes him...because he is bigger. that's what caused the injury here, nothing to do with "targeting" or whatnot..it was pure physics.

Suspending players for legal hits is what this would amount to.

If that's what the NHL wants, then so be it but again that would lead directly to pretty much no contact for the players. Why risk your paychque on something that could be considered allowable sometimes, yet not allowable at other times depending on who you are or a size difference?

Lets not kid ourselves, Wilsons history is playing into this entirely. Nothing to do with the validity of the hit itself. Granted the NHL has allowed this to fester into what it has become, much like the goalie interference thing as well as the offside rule and as such are as responsible for the clusterfata these hits have become.

[ZedMan]

Expert opinion of sorts: https://twitter.com/CarBombBoom13/st...65700786683904

[Red]

Predatory hit, high (incidentally or not), no interest in playing the puck, bad injury, dirty player. He will and should IMO get suspended.
Love tough hockey, but to me this was rather cheap, not tough hockey.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by ZedMan

Expert opinion of sorts: https://twitter.com/CarBombBoom13/st...65700786683904

Carcillo is a looney toon these days when it comes to twitter.

[Magnum PEI]

Three direct headshots this playoffs and also a slewfoot. The guy is the new Matt Cooke. Throw the book at him already.