Van hits multiple pedestrians in Toronto

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

Has to be a religious nutcase

Why? Because he ran people over?

It’s amazing to me that some of the same people who trumpet the “he must be crazy/religious/different than me” are some of the same people who have some unrelenting bloodlust of their own.

Simply because you do not have the ability or ambition to act on your bloodlust does not make it better or more honourable. If you cannot look at yourself, and your own eagerness to see someone’s death, and recognise that it does not take someone so different than yourself to carry it out, then I worry.

[Flames_Gimp]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Why? Because he ran people over?

It’s amazing to me that some of the same people who trumpet the “he must be crazy/religious/different than me” are some of the same people who have some unrelenting bloodlust of their own.

Simply because you do not have the ability or ambition to act on your bloodlust does not make it better or more honourable. If you cannot look at yourself, and your own eagerness to see someone’s death, and recognise that it does not take someone so different than yourself to carry it out, then I worry.

You got all that out of my little snippet?

Aren't most terrorists also into religion? It's a common excuse sometimes

[driveway]

I'm sure a lot of us have friends and relatives in Toronto, have there been any victims names released yet? I haven't been able to find anything.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

You got all that out of my little snippet?

Aren't most terrorists also into religion? It's a common excuse sometimes

It doesn’t appear to be relevant, so far, and I was also responding to your “why is CP so against revenge killing” comment.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

You got all that out of my little snippet?

Aren't most terrorists also into religion? It's a common excuse sometimes

Religion or politics.

[wwkayaker]

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

Why is wanting to see a brutal murderer pay the ultimate price so frowned upon on CP?

If the guy had a gun and the police officer deemed it necessary to use lethal force I would be fine with him being shot and killed. The police officer fulfilled his duty and removed a threat to the public. The bad guy is going away for life. The police officer gets to go home to his family and not suffer the mental health issues that may come wth killing a person. You are asking for a ‘death by police’ suicide which has far reaching effects.

[Red Potato Standing By]

Originally Posted by meritmat

The crowd is rather Liberal with a dash of millennial thrown in.

Each to there own there’s room in the world for all)

Being liberal or conservative has nothing to do with it. It is part of being civilized.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Minnie

Goodness, someone is going out of his way to make sure everyone knows his internet penis is >thisbig<.

I was starting to think it was a certain somebody's side account for drunk posting.

[Red Ice Player]

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

I didn't say anything about wanting the cop to shoot him...

It's normal for some people to feel anger after a situation like this, just not on CP I guess

There is no death penalty in Canada, and it isn't coming back. A trial is always better than a cop having to take a life. The families of the victims now get to look this monster in the eye and tell him to go straight to hell as he disappears forever into a box.
Just because pages aren't being filled with vitriol towards the killer doesn't mean CP doesn't feel hate and anger right now. This is not a debate on the death penalty, which is a waste of time. It's just a rejection of extrajudicial killings as a means of justice.

[Flames_Gimp]

Originally Posted by wwkayaker

If the guy had a gun and the police officer deemed it necessary to use lethal force I would be fine with him being shot and killed. The police officer fulfilled his duty and removed a threat to the public. The bad guy is going away for life. The police officer gets to go home to his family and not suffer the mental health issues that may come wth killing a person. You are asking for a ‘death by police’ suicide which has far reaching effects.

I Understand.

it's the shunning of someone having a natural human reaction of anger, that I was really referring to. It's a common theme here..

[metallicat]

Hate and anger - good and normal.

Acting on hate and anger - not good and not normal.

Why would we want to be one of the few countries in the world that has the death penalty? We are generally a good and peaceful nation, and we don't need to kill people to prove a point or get revenge. This guy deserves to live out his life in solitude, which is actually pretty freaking crappy as well.

Good on the cop for not shooting him, though if he had I would have been backing that move all the way. He had ample reason and justification to do it.

[dammage79]

That guy wanted to be killed. His punishment is not getting what he wants and gets to spend the rest of his life living with his choices which he did not want to. He gets to spend the rest of his life likely under suicide watch and under the eye of many head doctors.

[calgarybornnraised]

If this happened because he had issues with women. I’m glad he will spend the rest of his life behind bars with men.

[4X4]

Originally Posted by calgarybornnraised

If this happened because he had issues with women. I’m glad he will spend the rest of his life behind bars with men.

Are you suggesting that he's soon to be involuntarily non-celibate?

[calgarybornnraised]

[QUOTE=4X4;6667153]Are you suggesting that he's soon to be involuntarily non-celibate?[/QUOT
Just find it ironic, that is all.

[Johnny Makarov]

Last page turned this into a Calgary Sun comment section. You know if you post on there they will give you 1000s of likes.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

I Understand.

it's the shunning of someone having a natural human reaction of anger, that I was really referring to. It's a common theme here..

I don't think people are shunning anger, people are shunning the revenge / torture fantasy that is a constant theme after each horrific crime.

[Svartsengi]

Originally Posted by driveway

I'm sure a lot of us have friends and relatives in Toronto, have there been any victims names released yet? I haven't been able to find anything.

Watching CBC news world now. No names mentioned yet.

[photon]

Originally Posted by GGG

I don't think people are shunning anger, people are shunning the revenge / torture fantasy that is a constant theme after each horrific crime.

It would also be kinda nice if we could better understand what brings people to this point where they feel that out of all the possible decisions, that kind of action is the best one. And help them so they can make a different decision. Or help them get better.

Instead of seeing them as human, they are instantly dehumanized and classified as broken and should be removed from society.

But I wonder if any of us had gone through all the exact same life experiences that that guy had, would we have made a different choice? If not, then environment plays a greater role so there has to be some allowance for that (not saying we jeopardize public safety). And if so, why, what makes us "better" so we wouldn't make that same choice? Genetics? That's just random luck of the draw...

Imagine if we could help these people actually get better, like curing a cancer...

Unrealistic I at this point I know, but hopefully at some point in the distant future...

[burn_this_city]

Guy with a unibrow doesn't understand why he can't get a date.